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Old 12-12-2004, 11:19 AM   #1
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:tongue Man Jailed for Filming Girls at Pool

"A Melbourne man who filmed young girls naked at a suburban swimming pool was today sentenced to five months imprisonment... Gilbert edited his 10 minutes of footage into a five-minute tape he played for his own sexual gratification, the court was told... However Gilbert's voyeurism was unlikely to develop into criminal paedophilia, Dr Orchard said." ? The Age (Australia)

The peculiar thing about this case is that the tape the voyeur made and edited from his peeping footage was utilized solely for his own enjoyment. While no doubt this is probably a common practice ? video voyeurs making their own personal porno movies ? it is peculiar in the following sense.

Men ogle women. They stare and peep and peer and store up the luscious sights in memory, where they play them back as the urge arises. This is not illegal. It may be invasive, imprudent, or even in a case such as this, where the victims were minors, immoral. But it's not illegal. So why, if you do it with a video camera, does it become illegal? The only difference is that the things seen are preserved on tape rather than in the faculty of memory. And yet, if the tape is genuinely reserved for personal use, then how significant a difference is this? Set aside the fact that the victims were minors and that some peeping situations are just plain illegal regardless of whether or not you have a camera. If a person undresses at a pool, what is the difference between storing the sight in your brain and storing the sight on a videotape? After all, a tape seen by no one but yourself doesn't have much more reality than your own personal recollections anyway. It's like Bishop Berkeley said: to be is to be perceived. If the tape is not seen by anyone but yourself, it has little more existence than a memory. So how can something with such a negligible quotient of reality entail such real punishment?
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:35 AM   #2
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There goes my favorite hobby.
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:40 AM   #3
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the tape was real, the crime was real, the punishment was real. all that other jibberish is a pathetic way to justify pedopheilia.

the legislation draws lines and the line was crossed. without lines there are no boundries, without boundries we have chaos.
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:44 AM   #4
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the tape was real, the crime was real, the punishment was real. all that other jibberish is a pathetic way to justify pedopheilia.

the legislation draws lines and the line was crossed. without lines there are no boundries, without boundries we have chaos.
yeah the jibberish sounds like a rationalization
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:45 AM   #5
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:31 PM   #6
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the tape was real, the crime was real, the punishment was real. all that other jibberish is a pathetic way to justify pedopheilia.
Exactly, the fucker can burn there for all I care.
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:33 PM   #7
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:34 PM   #8
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Yeah, let him rot...

Bigger question in my mind is, wtf are you doing letting your underage kid hang out at a pool naked.

I understand nudity is more accepted outside the States, but cmon...
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:34 PM   #9
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every parent with a video camera is at risk of being jailed for child porn.
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:41 PM   #10
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Bigger question in my mind is, wtf are you doing letting your underage kid hang out at a pool naked.
"Gilbert filmed the girls, aged between two and 10, naked at the Harold Holt swimming pool as they were changing, according to a summary handed to the court. "
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:45 PM   #11
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"Gilbert filmed the girls, aged between two and 10, naked at the Harold Holt swimming pool as they were changing, according to a summary handed to the court. "
Ouch!
Only 5 months?
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:47 PM   #12
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This is siick... some people should be shot.

I mean it's bad enough taking an 18 year old and making her look young... (even though she is of legal age, the same perverse thoughts are there as if they were younger) is bad enough... but to film children to jerk off too? What is theis world comming to?
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:56 PM   #13
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oh no child porn!

that plane resembles a dildo!

lock em up and burn the witches!!!!

burn the witches!!!!

burn the witches!!!!
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:59 PM   #14
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Old 12-12-2004, 01:18 PM   #15
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Uh... this article is 18 months old, you just noticed it?
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Old 12-12-2004, 05:03 PM   #16
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"Gilbert filmed the girls, aged between two and 10, naked at the Harold Holt swimming pool as they were changing, according to a summary handed to the court. "
Aah... didn't catch that. Yup, shoot the fucker.
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