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Old 12-12-2004, 12:25 PM   #1
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starting an airline??

What are the costs associated with starting a small Domestic airline?? International airline???

Im just trying to find out more info on the aviation business..

Is it very profitable?
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:26 PM   #2
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:29 PM   #3
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http://www.airpolonia.com.pl/

This is an Airline in Poland which is seeking an investor with 800,000$. They just went bankrupt.



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Old 12-12-2004, 12:29 PM   #4
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ya i was thinking like $100mil in acct or something

im sure there are business loans and shit for buying airplanes..
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Old 12-12-2004, 01:02 PM   #5
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ya i was thinking like $100mil in acct or something

im sure there are business loans and shit for buying airplanes..
everyone knows that most airplanes are rented not bought........
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Old 12-12-2004, 01:06 PM   #6
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tons of money. most of the smaller airlines own very few of their planes, or they buy used ones. I'd imagine the costs would be well over $200million for US Domestic. I don't know about overseas.
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Old 12-12-2004, 01:10 PM   #7
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ya i was thinking like $100mil in acct or something

im sure there are business loans and shit for buying airplanes..
You obviously don't pay the full price. There are ways to pay the manufacturers in installments after establishing some good credit line with them.
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Old 12-12-2004, 01:11 PM   #8
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You obviously don't pay the full price. There are ways to pay the manufacturers in installments after establishing some good credit line with them.
And a small airline will most likely want to lease the airplanes anyway.
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Old 12-12-2004, 01:15 PM   #9
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Old 12-12-2004, 01:16 PM   #10
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Richard branson, the BILLIONaire that owns virgin Airlines said on Howard Stern that there's a joke in the airline biz. It was something like airlines turn billionaires into millionaires. If you were serious about it I would say the only profitable approach is a small fleet of corporate jets.
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Old 12-12-2004, 01:16 PM   #11
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Talk with Richard Branson!!! maybe he can fork over a few mil for sum competition.
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LOL I would guess its too much for you. Each plane is several million, then you gotta contract for the space at the airports, then you gotta hire a bunch of people, and pilots make pretty good money. Good luck with your venture, please tell us the name of your airline, so we know to be careful.
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Old 12-12-2004, 01:19 PM   #13
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Shit most of these airlines today arent even profitable!
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Old 12-12-2004, 01:23 PM   #14
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I would venture to say that a good chunk of the smaller airports/airlines are subsidized by the adjacent city/county. I know that the one in my hometown is. They have 4 outgoing flights a day, probably 30 passengers per flight at $100. That comes out to about $12,000 a day, figure in land, employees, security, upkeep, maintenance, fuel, insurance, etc. Probably not much profit, if any.
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Old 12-12-2004, 01:25 PM   #15
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What are the costs associated with starting a small Domestic airline?? International airline???

Im just trying to find out more info on the aviation business..

Is it very profitable?
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Old 12-12-2004, 01:26 PM   #16
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all your questions will be answered there
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