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Old 12-12-2004, 09:30 AM   #1
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Does anyone have good experience with bunnyteens.com?

Seems most of the thumbnails lead to other tgps.
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Old 12-12-2004, 09:35 AM   #2
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Your wrong, Rage is a great guy!

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Old 12-12-2004, 09:40 AM   #3
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Clicked 5 times and all went to galleries. Bunnyteens has a hot design. I would do business if I had the chance.
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Old 12-12-2004, 10:01 AM   #4
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Lots of hits, sales spotty.

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Is that what you base business on?
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Old 12-12-2004, 10:26 AM   #6
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Clicked 5 times and all went to galleries. Bunnyteens has a hot design. I would do business if I had the chance.
The gallery spots are available to buy for everybody.
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Old 12-12-2004, 10:32 AM   #7
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that's like buying space at a store on a shelf that rotates just maybe when that customer comes arond your product just might be there
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I wouldn't buy a skimmed spot anywhere.
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Old 12-12-2004, 10:47 AM   #9
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that's like buying space at a store on a shelf that rotates just maybe when that customer comes arond your product just might be there
What a great analogy
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:06 AM   #10
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thats how pretty much all thumb tgps work with skimming. most of their traffic sucks, but bunny teens traffic is actually high quality if you have non saturated teen sites. i usually do about 2-8 signups per spot, but now that gts sells their traffic the spots cost way more and you have to buy 30 at a time.
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:07 AM   #11
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:07 AM   #12
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thats how pretty much all thumb tgps work with skimming. most of their traffic sucks, but bunny teens traffic is actually high quality if you have non saturated teen sites. i usually do about 2-8 signups per spot, but now that gts sells their traffic the spots cost way more and you have to buy 30 at a time.
how much was the daily price increase?
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it was $30 per spot before and i got a discount for buying in bulk. luckily i still have spots left from before.
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Old 12-12-2004, 11:49 AM   #14
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it was $30 per spot before and i got a discount for buying in bulk. luckily i still have spots left from before.
The current price is $1200 for 30 days = $40 / day....if you got 8 sign-ups per day, say at $20 per sign-up you would make a profit of $3600 for the entire month: a 300% return!
Even if at the very least you got 3 sign-ups per day you would still be making money

The current price is a very good reflection of the true market value.

We are also currently sold out of gallery spots: what does that tell you?
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:16 PM   #15
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The current price is $1200 for 30 days = $40 / day....if you got 8 sign-ups per day, say at $20 per sign-up you would make a profit of $3600 for the entire month: a 300% return!
Yup and if you get 20 signups a day you'll make even more profit.

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Old 12-12-2004, 12:20 PM   #16
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Bunnyteens has pretty good traffic, I know from experience. I would still do business with Rage if he handled it himself and not GTS

Oh and Sarah, even the most experienced webmaster can make 0 sales from a gallery listing... even with Rage's traffic.
The fact that all the spots are sold is simply coz GTS has great marketing, too bad that's the only thing that's great about GTS
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:21 PM   #17
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Great experience buying spots in the past.

And he is a great guy.
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:22 PM   #18
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Yup and if you get 20 signups a day you'll make even more profit.

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how much would you make if you made 100 sales a day?
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Bunnyteens has pretty good traffic, I know from experience. I would still do business with Rage if he handled it himself and not GTS

Oh and Sarah, even the most experienced webmaster can make 0 sales from a gallery listing... even with Rage's traffic.
The fact that all the spots are sold is simply coz GTS has great marketing, too bad that's the only thing that's great about GTS
Why are you bashing us?

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Old 12-12-2004, 12:46 PM   #20
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that's hardly bashing, just sharing my experience.

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Old 12-12-2004, 12:47 PM   #21
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Seems most of the thumbnails lead to other tgps.
I think it is called... a trade script?
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:53 PM   #22
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Old 12-12-2004, 12:57 PM   #24
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He's not bashing you DH, he's simply right.


Before GTS came into the picture it was much easier to make quick money with the spots....

Btw I have nothing against GTS and I think you guys are great to deal with...Im just talking from experience


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My experience with GTS...

Bought $1000 teen package... they charged me $1200

Sales were good for a week, then galleries using the same sponsor as me started to appear.

I informed GTS of the same sponsor situation, they said they would look into it.

Never heard back from them.

Will never use them again.

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DH must be really insulted, he ICQ'ed me and went borderline...

I mean really, if you can't take criticism you shouldn't be in any business

I thought highly of you man, shame you totally ruined it!

btw looks like I'm not the only one
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DH must be really insulted, he ICQ'ed me and went borderline...

I mean really, if you can't take criticism you shouldn't be in any business

I thought highly of you man, shame you totally ruined it!

btw looks like I'm not the only one
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What I want to know is why I have to pay $10 more now and go through a third party just to get my galleries placed in the same fucking spot?
Exactly what additional benefit does GTS add to my purchase of spots on bunnyteens?
If someone could explain that to me maybe I would start buying again but until then I refuse to spend more money for the same fucking result.
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I informed GTS of the same sponsor situation, they said they would look into it.

Never heard back from them.

Will never use them again.

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same thing happened to me twice buying spots there. except the galleries being posted on the same day happened right away. said they would look into it twice and never heard back. besides that they were very easy to deal with though.
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What I want to know is why I have to pay $10 more now and go through a third party just to get my galleries placed in the same fucking spot?
Exactly what additional benefit does GTS add to my purchase of spots on bunnyteens?
If someone could explain that to me maybe I would start buying again but until then I refuse to spend more money for the same fucking result.
Its not a benefit for you. Its for Rage so he doesnt have to do it anymore.
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What I want to know is why I have to pay $10 more now and go through a third party just to get my galleries placed in the same fucking spot?
Exactly what additional benefit does GTS add to my purchase of spots on bunnyteens?
If someone could explain that to me maybe I would start buying again but until then I refuse to spend more money for the same fucking result.
blame it on paypal. because of paypal canceling rages account he had to hire a broker. brokers cost extra $. plus they're completely sold out. its simple supply and demand.
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The author of this thread needs a lesson on how skim works. If you look at the URLs in the thumbs on Bunny Teens, you can see the exact percentage of the clicks from that thumb that are sent to galleries, and going to trades several times in a row is not normal. You had an isolated incident.

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DH must be really insulted, he ICQ'ed me and went borderline...

I mean really, if you can't take criticism you shouldn't be in any business

I thought highly of you man, shame you totally ruined it!

btw looks like I'm not the only one
it was your opinion, why should he be mad...i mean all their spots are sold out..right??????
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First of all pradaboy, I think you have no reason to beat up on us. We provided EXACTLY what you paid for. I wish everyone could have stellar results but unfortunately it doesn't always happen and it didn't happen with you. You're complaining because I didn't suck your dick and give you tons of free advertising when you contacted me about the poor results. If your results were poor I would be more than happy to report that to the TGP's you bought advertising on and advise them of it. If they decide to give you free advertising to make up for it that is a decision they would have to make.

We are simply agents that work on our site owners behalf and sell advertising for them. Site owners are happy because they are making more money than ever with us and don't have to deal with all the bullshit of dealing with tons of inquiries, collections, scheduling of advertising and all the other fun stuff.

We are currently 90% sold out on sites across the board we handle the advertising for, so we must be doing something right. Unfortunately you can't keep 100% of the people happy 100% of the time, it's just not possible.

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I don't know how this post got derailed. From my experience, GTS rocks. They are very professional and friendly. Devin is a great guy to work with. Can't blame GTS for not enough ROI. Some have worked for me and some haven't. I simply try another TGP if the traffic in not enough to justify the cost.
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Just thought I'd add a couple things.. first, the idea of selling skimmed gallery spots seems strange by itself but that's just how it works in thumb tgp. I could remove skims to the paid spots which make up for the vast majority of my gallery spots and in the short run, you would get more hits. But after a short period, since I'm sending about 10 to 15 percent of the hits to my trades as I used to, my overall traffic goes down quickly and you are receiving a lot less hits to your galleries.

I'm thinking more hits over the long term is better than a short burst in the short run. No skimming works a lot better on TEXT tgp's. When you add text links to other TGPs on a thumb site, the thumbs are a lot more noticable. But on a text site you can make them stand out more than the simple text gallery listings. Making text stand out more than a picture isn't easy.

Next, once Paypal closed my account I didn't have much choice but to sign on with GTS. I tried using epassporte but hardly anybody uses them it seems, the sales went way down with the same price. The service has been very good with GTS. There was a slight price increase but it was still in line with other TGPs out there, I still felt you were getting a lot of traffic for the money, and fairly good quality traffic at that. I could have gotten my own merchant account but that meant I had to get a new system programmed and also watch out for fraud a lot more. GTS was the better solution.

Anyways, I'm not about to say that you will always profit from buying a link on my site no matter what sponsor you use, what your galleries look like, etc.. you won't.. but as a few people said, as long as you choose your sponsors well that is related to my traffic (teen, lesbian, hardcore, etc) and it's not over-saturated you should do just fine.

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I don't know what homophobic problems you have Mark but you don't have to blame me for them.

Funny how after this thread and another where you replied people ICQ'ed me and told me interesting stories 'bout ya, at least my decision never to deal with GTS again is 100% solid now.

You say you can't keep 100% of the clients 100% satisfied, ok that's fair enough but if you don't keep someone satisfied don't expect them to keep their mouth shut about it!

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