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Spunky · 12-11-2004, 09:52 PM

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sean416 · 12-11-2004, 10:01 PM

AMD are the shit. I would never use intel. But thanks to Jesus, Oracle and Yngwie I learned something reading this thread.

- Jesus Christ - · 12-11-2004, 10:02 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
"People who can't afford better" = People who use anything other than Macs.

Afford better?

Are you sure you don't mean people who want to upgrade, Mix and match parts, have a choice of components from a wide variety of manufacturers, or play video games?

Donny · 12-11-2004, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
Afford better?

Are you sure you don't mean people who want to upgrade, Mix and match parts, have a choice of components from a wide variety of manufacturers, or play video games?

Why would one need to change perfection?

- Jesus Christ - · 12-11-2004, 10:09 PM

could you repeat that? I couldn't hear you over the sound of me eviscerating horeds of zombies in the new painkiller addon "Battle Out Of Hell" on my other machine.

Strife · 12-11-2004, 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by sean416
AMD are the shit. I would never use intel.

Amen to that.

Dax · 12-12-2004, 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
"People who can't afford better" = People who use anything other than Macs.

Or people who dont want to deal with any problems while surfing... my buddy hasa G5 and a lot of sites are crap on that.. Shit even gmail is a bitch to make it work.. LOL

Macs are the shit for design and graphics... video... no doubt.. I would never completly switch....

soulboy · 12-12-2004, 12:57 AM

agree on that. By the moment don't need a new PC

JSA Matt · 12-12-2004, 01:02 AM

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Originally posted by Armed & Hammered
I'll take 5 of them. When can you ship?

next sunday

Kard63 · 12-12-2004, 01:04 AM

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Originally posted by strobi
That pc would sell for around 2000-2200$ over here

We should work something out.

wes · 12-12-2004, 01:05 AM

Kard63 · 12-12-2004, 01:08 AM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Yo ... what's the best comp you can build ... (video editting and list cleaning ... needs a lot of power and disk space) .

for 2000-2500 $ .

Without a monitor and without dual cpu's you could build the best CPU on the market for that NP.

I would wait for better bus speeds. I've been waiting a long fucking time.

Oh yea, and.... I dont like Macs and AMD sucks.

MrJackMeHoff · 12-12-2004, 01:21 AM

A CLUE 4 U

People who actualy believe the AMD hype are so funny.. AMD's reliabilty and strengths lie in all the wrong places or just do not exist. These graphs show AMD beating intel in 1 or 2 tests and when they do its by such marginal #'s you'd never notice.. Why sacrifice longevity for tiny speed gains?

Intel is a better built chip and the boards and chipsets have wider support and lifespans.

Reminds me of the whole rice burner mentality...

PS: Fuck you "Fake Nick" no one likes you anyway so blow it out your ass bitch.

Kard63 · 12-12-2004, 01:23 AM

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Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
PS: Fuck you "Fake Nick" no one likes you anyway so blow it out your ass bitch.

ditto for oracle porn ;)

badmunchkin · 12-12-2004, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
"People who can't afford better" = People who use anything other than Macs.

I started on macs so I have no reason to be biased - but god, I HATE macs...
I love PCs and prefer AMD chips - they still outperform pentium in benchmark tests.

Strife · 12-12-2004, 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
A CLUE 4 U

People who actualy believe the AMD hype are so funny.. AMD's reliabilty and strengths lie in all the wrong places or just do not exist. These graphs show AMD beating intel in 1 or 2 tests and when they do its by such marginal #'s you'd never notice.. Why sacrifice longevity for tiny speed gains?

Intel is a better built chip and the boards and chipsets have wider support and lifespans.

Reminds me of the whole rice burner mentality...

PS: Fuck you "Fake Nick" no one likes you anyway so blow it out your ass bitch.

Blah blah blah...the fact remains that unless you do heavy video edit in which case, you should get a Mac instead , you'd be better off saving some $$$ with AMD.

Freakster · 12-12-2004, 01:47 AM

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Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
Intel is a better built chip and the boards and chipsets have wider support and lifespans.

Reminds me of the whole rice burner mentality...

Exactly what I though when I built my new computer... P4 S775 3.0Ghz/1GB DDR2 553Mhz/...

- Jesus Christ - · 12-12-2004, 01:58 AM

MrJackMeHoff... You're a fanboy.

I don't "belive the hype" I own Mutiple chips from both companies.

"Intel is a better built chip and the boards and chipsets have wider support and lifespans."

Wider support?
What the hell are you talking about.

Lifespan?

My old 1800+ XP system is many years old and has been running way overcloked (1.9G) without so much as a hiccup. In fact I've NEVER had an AMD chip die on me excluding some that I recived DOA and I've built over 20 systems using the A-XP line.

Athlons blow Pentiums away in almost EVERY gaming benchmark not "1 or 2" tests

http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/2004...4_4000-08.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/2004...4_4000-16.html

(and toms hardware is slightly slanted twards Intel)

Yea if your not gaming and doing office related tasks ONLY then pentium might be the way to go.

But your bold "clue" about AMD is nothing but fanboy flaming.

price to performance ratio AMD takes this year hands down, but we'll have to see what happens next year becasue intel has announced the development of a new production process that AMD wont be able to match rapidly becasue they are still upgrading their factories to 90nm tech.

Intel has already been 90nm so they will be ready to move on.

stev0 · 12-12-2004, 02:10 AM

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Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
I build machines all day long without using garbage amd's for half the price but nice try.. I guess its good for someone who is clueless.

He's clueless? check your benchmarks again...

AMD64 chips outpreform P4's in almost every task. Check out www.tomshardware.com , he's got some good tests you can educate yourself with.

stev0 · 12-12-2004, 02:13 AM

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Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
A CLUE 4 U

People who actualy believe the AMD hype are so funny.. AMD's reliabilty and strengths lie in all the wrong places or just do not exist. These graphs show AMD beating intel in 1 or 2 tests and when they do its by such marginal #'s you'd never notice.. Why sacrifice longevity for tiny speed gains?

Intel is a better built chip and the boards and chipsets have wider support and lifespans.

Reminds me of the whole rice burner mentality...

PS: Fuck you "Fake Nick" no one likes you anyway so blow it out your ass bitch.

If you knew anything about hardware you'd know that a CPU's lifespam depends on the running temperature. AMD's are shipped with better cooling systems and run as cool if not cooler than intel chips now.

Maybe not AMD chips 2 years ago, but today AMD definately has the better chip in the personal computer market.

I would know, i've got computers running both... and my AMD is always faster than the intel in every benchmark (even though the clock speed is lower on AMD's).

CamChicks · 12-12-2004, 02:21 AM

AMD has an advantage in gaming, but Intel currently has the edge (in single-processor systems) when software can take advantage of hyperthreading. I'm about to build a new video editing PC and I will use a P4.

Unfortunately the graphics card in the original posters system will not handle most of the newer releases. (they'd be playable but not enjoyable at @10fps) Buying a 9600 series card now is daft when you can get a 6600GT for a few bucks more, futureproof yourself, and (in comparison) literally triple or quadruple the performance.

MrJackMeHoff · 12-12-2004, 02:25 AM

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Originally posted by stev0
If you knew anything about hardware you'd know that a CPU's lifespam depends on the running temperature. AMD's are shipped with better cooling systems and run as cool if not cooler than intel chips now.

Maybe not AMD chips 2 years ago, but today AMD definately has the better chip in the personal computer market.

I would know, i've got computers running both... and my AMD is always faster than the intel in every benchmark (even though the clock speed is lower on AMD's).

haha what a laugh.. You believe everything you read online eh? Look at the # differences anyway.. .04 and .2 and maybe 3 on most.. Gimme a break.

They dont even show the prescott cpu's how old is this crap your using as your data?

Your comparing 64 bit to 32 bit cpu's? WTF program uses 64 bit 'sides a fucking benchmark??

-- Failure rate:

Ive been running a Web host since 1994 and the first servers to die are always AMD.. Thats my longevity issue.

- Jesus Christ - · 12-12-2004, 02:30 AM

None of those benchmarks are 64 bit.

And um.. prscotts? You could cook eggs on those fuckers. They sucked and would put out massive heat, even at stock,

Biggest intel flop in recent memory and you bring up "why isnt it on the bechmark"

http://hardwareanalysis.com/content/.../article/1693/

MrJackMeHoff · 12-12-2004, 02:33 AM

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Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
None of those benchmarks are 64 bit.

And um.. prscotts? You could cook eggs on those fuckers. They sucked and would put out massive heat, even at stock,

Biggest intel flop in recent memory and you bring up "why isnt it on the bechmark"

http://hardwareanalysis.com/content/.../article/1693/

That artical is about overclocking dipshit

Doctor Dre · 12-12-2004, 02:34 AM

Can any1 explain me how exactly the 64 bit cpu handle stuff ? my friend told me you might need a special version of every program . is that true ?

- Jesus Christ - · 12-12-2004, 02:36 AM

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Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
That artical is about overclocking dipshit

No its widely known fact that presscotts runn too fucking hot.

And that article talks about STOCK temps then about a SLIGHT 5% overclock. Anyone can do a google search and find out the ass reputation of the presscott even among intel fans.

Quote:

Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff

Ive been running a Web host since 1994 and the first servers to die are always AMD.. Thats my longevity issue.

Uh... Then you probably don't know how to cool your racks and its funny that somone who "runs web hosting since 94" would bring up the presscott as an example of a good intel chip.

Can you say.... Liar?

Why don't you bullshit everyone some more so you can make yourself look even COOLER.

MrJackMeHoff · 12-12-2004, 02:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by - Jesus Christ -
No its widely known fact that presscotts runn too fucking hot.

And that article talks about STOCK temps then about a SLIGHT 5% overclock. Anyone can do a google search and find out the ass reputation of the presscott even among intel fans.

Uh... Then you probably don't know how to cool your racks and its funny that somone who "runs web hosting since 94" would bring up the presscott as an example of a good intel chip.

Can you say.... Liar?

Why don't you bullshit everyone some more so you can make yourself look even COOLER.

I dont need to lie.. Come see me in Hawaii and you'll know what Im about. Oh yeah : See sig

- Jesus Christ - · 12-12-2004, 02:40 AM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
Can any1 explain me how exactly the 64 bit cpu handle stuff ? my friend told me you might need a special version of every program . is that true ?

Right now nothing uses 64 bit tech except some linux distros with hacks applied and the win 64 beta.

Every program will have to be recompiled and altered take advantage of the extentions (but there might be some benefit from having just the OS use the extentions becasue I've seen some crazy encoding speed increases on 64 bit linux) so by the time your really gonna want a 64bit chip the ones out now are gonna be crap... but at least they will retain some resale value.

Currently its just a marketing ploy but it is also the first step twords 64-bit computing.

Rhino22 · 12-12-2004, 11:14 AM

Wow. WTF happend to my thread?

Anyways, KMR Stitch, I'm sure that you can find those parts for that price...

but did you include the moboard price and all the other little things that put together a full functinoning PC? I doubt it..

Oracle, sure the FX-64 is a better processor...and for the extra $250-400, it damn well better be...

That's why my PC is much cheaper... I've been reading through all your replies and it seems that you are very uninformed regarding the PC world. So please, stop commenting in this thread.

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