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|  12-11-2004, 02:25 PM | #1 | 
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				Athlon64 3400+, 1GB RAM, 8x DVD-Burner, Radeon 9600XT..Like it? Check this out...
			 Okay, as some of you guys know, aside from my part time gig doing adult, I also build and sell custom pc's. So here is a brand new PC that I am selling...It has not been built yet... The parts are sitting in a box next to me, all I need is a buyer and I will assemble, test, and ship. This PC retails for almost twice the price on some sites... Others will charge you around $1500 or so... I Gaurantee you will not find it cheaper. If you have questions, email me: [email protected] or ICQ: 93665589. Or simply post in this thread. Payment through PayPal only. Will ship anywhere within the US and Canada. Any type of shipping avaliable, insurance avaliable too. ------------------------------------------------ AMD Athlon64 3400+, 1MB L2 Cache 520 Watt PSU 1GB PC3500 RAM 200GB Seagate SATA hard drive ATi Radeon 9600xt, 128MB 8x DVD-R/RW Logitech Cordless Keyboard and Mouse combo. $1090.00 ------------------------------------------------ That's just the major stuff that needs listing...obviously comes with floppy and all the other stuff needed to work. If you need pictures. The case is full alluminum...this baby keeps cool at all times. Any other questions, contact me. | 
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|  12-11-2004, 02:31 PM | #2 | 
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				 | wow... to know that I paid 1700 for my pc just 2 years ago...  you can get SO much for 1000$ nowadays, it's insane | 
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|  12-11-2004, 02:40 PM | #3 | 
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				 | I build machines all day long without using garbage amd's for half the price but nice try.. I guess its good for someone who is clueless. 
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|  12-11-2004, 02:47 PM | #4 | |
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|  12-11-2004, 02:50 PM | #5 | 
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				 | A64 3400+ ? Are you fucking kidding me ?  its socket  754 (crap) Get the new 939. Your RAM is probably crap. 200GB seagate = crap (get Raptor 10000 rpm instead) Video card is total crap. | 
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|  12-11-2004, 02:50 PM | #6 | 
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				 | Thats an amazing machine for that price. Although I feel a little cheated seeing this price now. JK bro   No doubt you make quality PC's with quality components. I hope you sell it. Hit me up on icq when you have some time. 
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|  12-11-2004, 02:51 PM | #7 | |
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 amd has the high end market (x86) beat hands down with the opterons. the itaniums are WAY too expensive, and just don't cut it. Don't bother trying argue the point, I have several itaniums and opteron 250s to test against. And have. 
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|  12-11-2004, 02:52 PM | #8 | |
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 AMD outperfoms Intel in any benchmark. | |
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|  12-11-2004, 02:52 PM | #9 | |
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 AMD Athlon64 3500+ 375.00$ Sapphire 9600XT AGP 256 MB 225.00$ 200GB Maxtor HD SATA 159.00$ DVD +/- RW LG 16/8/2 99.00$ 1GB PC3500 RAM 210.00$ Logitech Cordless Keyboard and Mouse combo. $99.00 Antec Case $89.00 Total : 1256.00 CDN = 1025 USD  | |
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|  12-11-2004, 02:54 PM | #10 | |
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 More video RAM too. | |
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|  12-11-2004, 03:02 PM | #11 | |
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|  12-11-2004, 03:08 PM | #12 | |
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 Show me where I was wrong. | |
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|  12-11-2004, 03:17 PM | #13 | 
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				 | lol... I can build it for 750.00 =) | 
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|  12-11-2004, 03:27 PM | #14 | 
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|  12-11-2004, 03:33 PM | #15 | |
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|  12-11-2004, 03:38 PM | #16 | |
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 and 939 is not a lot better than 754 considering this 3400 has a 1MB cache and the 939 3400's only have 512K. Also the only REAL benefit of 939 is dual channel mem (hardly makes any real prefromance difference) and the 939 use the new 90 nm tech. (cooler but also the reason they give you half the cache for the same model muber.) ----------------------------- I'm currently running one of these http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...103-443&depa=0 overclocked I can beat a stock 3800 754 Motherboard and CPU came to $325 outperforms a $500+ chip. 
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|  12-11-2004, 04:00 PM | #17 | |
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|  12-11-2004, 04:19 PM | #18 | 
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				 | That pc would sell for around 2000-2200$ over here   | 
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|  12-11-2004, 04:23 PM | #19 | |
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|  12-11-2004, 04:25 PM | #20 | |
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 Only thing dual cahnnel will "Speed Up" is synthetic benchmarks and if your manipulating large databases. an extra 512K is about equivalent to an extra 200MHz clock speed. 
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|  12-11-2004, 04:26 PM | #21 | |
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  and btw, FX have 1mb cache | |
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|  12-11-2004, 04:28 PM | #22 | |
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 Secondly its becase they want people to upgrade. 939 is better but its not much better than 754 and you've proven how clueless you are when you say dual channel mem is > than extra l2 cache 
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|  12-11-2004, 04:31 PM | #23 | 
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				 | dual channel = faster memory access time = faster calculation speeds | 
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 dual channel = more bandwidth the CLOCKSPEED of the ram controlls teh SPEED... the bandwdth is the size of the pipeline from the ram to the memory controller. becase the A64's all have ram controllers on the CPU the dual channel does not even make as much of a differnce as it did with ther previous cores. 
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|  12-11-2004, 04:36 PM | #25 | 
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				 | Oh God, why did this have to turn into a geek war.    When all we wanted to prove is that Rhino22's prices are not that good.   KMR Stitch can give you the same system for 250$ less | 
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|  12-11-2004, 04:38 PM | #26 | |
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 Cache is used to speed up the memory retrieval process. If there was no cache then everytime the CPU requested data it would send it to the main memory then back across the memory BUS (no, not something you go to school in lol) This would be a very slow process. Cache is extremely fast memory that stores the data that is accessed the most and at times the data around it. Sothis in turn allows the cpu to achieve the quickest response time (the size of the pipe plays a big role here) So lets say a piece of data is accessed 5 times then, in most cases it will be stored in the cache since it's accessed frequently. there is level 1 cache which is smaller (in size) but FAST then there's level 2 cache with is BIG (in size) but a lot slower but it's still faster then the main memory. ok, that may not explain anything to the less computer literate people lol 
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|  12-11-2004, 04:47 PM | #27 | 
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				 | in short, the cache when storing the frequently used data makes it so your cpu doesn't have to refetch the original data.. hence faster reponse times when accessing that data again. it's just a duplicate copy in the cache 
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|  12-11-2004, 04:59 PM | #28 | 
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				 | And L1 cache is more than enough. Plus it's faster than L2. | 
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|  12-11-2004, 04:59 PM | #29 | 
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				 | yes, I said that lol 
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|  12-11-2004, 05:02 PM | #30 | 
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				 | Pricewatch.com Does wonders | 
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|  12-11-2004, 05:05 PM | #32 | |
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 I just summarized it for Jesus Christ. In short, 939 > 745 | |
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 A 2.0 3200 with 1MB l2 will match (an in some flaoting point calcs beat) a 2.2 with 512 I know becasue i fucking own both and used to build computers for a living. In short your a moron. EDIT: by the way I never said 939 wasnt better... in fact you can scroll up and see me saying its better.... but its NOT SIGNIFICANTLY better and is mainly to sell more boards/chips. 
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				 | Yo ... what's the best comp you can build ... (video editting and list cleaning ... needs a lot of power and disk space) . for 2000-2500 $ . | 
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 You need to just chill and stop trying to argue about stuff you have no experience with. 
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 Better yet, buy a Mac. I've purchased 4 Macs this year. Best computers EVER. | |
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				 | Damn guys let him try to sell it. If that is what he wants to build, then let him build them. 
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 1- For Belinda at the office. PowerPC G5. 1- For home. 20" iMacG5. 1- For Crystal at the office to use. 17" iMac G5. Plus I have 4 PCs. I hate it when I have to use them, but sometimes must. They simply don't compare. | |
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|  12-11-2004, 09:36 PM | #47 | 
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				 | anyone who says AMD sucks has NO idea. Amd is the shit! 
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 AMD is for people who like to turn a $150-200 chip into a $500-600 chip with a $40 dollar copper cooler. And poeple who like CPUs that process more instructions per clock cycle. And..... AMD Debuts Athlon FX-55, 4000+ Chip; Cuts Prices http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...79443%2C00.asp Craig Barrett: "We've changed our direction" Asked why Intel last week canceled plans to release a 4GHz Pentium processor http://news.com.com/Barrett+still+ha...ml?tag=st.prev This post Not approved by the ministry of truth. *ding dong ding* (intel song) 
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