Bogus songs on KAZAA made on purpose to discourage downloading! - GoFuckYourself.com

Cash · 12-11-2004, 01:14 PM

I suspected that, and after I watched a documentary on BBC I saw this was for real, companies placing bogus songs (repetitive beginnings for all the mp3 file, noise ...) to make music downloading unpleasant and discourage Kazaa and other peer to peer programs' users ... An American company from New York, called Overpeer, does that.

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/article.../07052002e.php

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...F-8&q=overpeer

Dildozer · 12-11-2004, 01:18 PM

Good move on their part, what would you do if you were them?

wes · 12-11-2004, 01:21 PM

old news.

Theo · 12-11-2004, 01:22 PM

that's sooo wrong

boner 2.0 · 12-11-2004, 01:22 PM

P2P = feds party

WiredGuy · 12-11-2004, 01:22 PM

I have a friend who's doing a lengthy research paper for his masters degree on various polution techniques on the Kazaa network for copyrighted songs. Some really interesting stats he's getting from 1 week to official release of a new song to the week afterwards, seeing how much of a variation there is in corrupt files on the Kazaa networks.

WG

psyko514 · 12-11-2004, 01:24 PM

This is really old news. Overpeer has been around for a while.

Dirty F · 12-11-2004, 01:25 PM

Welcome to 2 years ago.

Fake Nick · 12-11-2004, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by Battuss
Welcome to 2 years ago.

Jace · 12-11-2004, 01:27 PM

yeah, they have been doing that for YEARS

psyko514 · 12-11-2004, 01:28 PM

did you guys hear that Napster, the free P2P network, was shut down?

Project-Shadow · 12-11-2004, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by psyko514
did you guys hear that Napster, the free P2P network, was shut down?

SHIT WHEN WAS THIS?

garett · 12-11-2004, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
Good move on their part, what would you do if you were them?

Cash in on all the cd sales as a result of p2p.

Whether or not you would buy a cd after hearing a few tracks you downloaded is a different story. But lots of people do.

I can't stand to listen to the radio. So I download music instead. If I like what I hear enough (usually 3 or 4 tracks off an album) I'll go buy the album.

If I can't get a few tracks to listen to before buying an album I just won't buy it. People are sick of getting an album for one track and having the rest of them suck. And forget the radio... they can pay me to listen to the crap being pushed over the air waves these days.

Rantan · 12-11-2004, 01:31 PM

welcome to 2 years ago..they've been putting bad copys of music on p2p networks for a long time...

crockett · 12-11-2004, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by Dildozer
Good move on their part, what would you do if you were them?

If I were the music industry I would have set up legal versions of P2P sharing networks and charged a small monthly fee.

I would then allow limited mp3 downloads from my network servers but unlimited downloads of approved mp3s on the network between sharing users.

This would have nipped the whole shared mp3 issue in the butt, right from the beginning. Sure of course there would have been illegal P2P networks but they could have picked up a major part of that internet traffic, if they would have done it from the beginning instead of fighting the technology.

If they would have built up a solid network like this at the start, it would have allowed the music industry to test new bands on the public with out putting out the kind of cash they do now. They could have had instance response from the public on new bands and so on. This could have been a win win situation for the record companies and new bands, but instead they couldn't see past their greed.

Observing · 12-11-2004, 01:36 PM

Well this news is about 2 years old I believe, at least that when they first started doing it. Anyways, it's a good move, but hopefully they have more good moves. I'm not holy in general but I believe that p2p programs in general and late especially bittorrent are killing all kinds of entertainment industries, among these adult.

I've heard some adult webmasters argue that they use p2p to their advantage and you just gotta know how to use it... This argument is weak because it's only valid because they can't beat it. In reality it would be better for all parties if it wasn't around. Afterall, we all know porn surfers are the most honest people in the world don't we?

Let's have more ways of tracking down the people who put out copyright protected material on the internet and let's have higher penalties for the ones who redistribute it with a p2p program. P2p thinks it's invincible right now and that it can never be shut down, perhaps not, but their networks can be flooded with fake shit and with better punishment for users distributing it can become very unattractive to use.

dunno why I keep typing better stop

Drake · 12-11-2004, 01:37 PM

Old news. The thing about file sharing networks like Kazaa is that they naturally weed out the bogus songs because people who download the bad files remove them and therefore stop sharing it to others in the network.

Cash · 12-11-2004, 01:40 PM

They must have done a poor job if they started 2 years ago, since I ran into more bogus songs on Kazaa only these last months.

jamzyamz · 12-11-2004, 01:43 PM

Madonna was one of the first. At least 2 years ago. Also some unknown bands name their songs after a likeminded band to get you to check them out.

That's fuckin' annoying.

Best bet... don't use kazaa. Get yer shit from the newsgroups, or the opennap networks.

psyko514 · 12-11-2004, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cash
They must have done a poor job if they started 2 years ago, since I ran into more bogus songs on Kazaa only these last months.

All popular and newly released tracks from the top 5 labels have been like that for a long time. I stopped using Kazaa a year ago.

Jace · 12-11-2004, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jamzyamz
Madonna was one of the first. At least 2 years ago. Also some unknown bands name their songs after a likeminded band to get you to check them out.

That's fuckin' annoying.

Best bet... don't use kazaa. Get yer shit from the newsgroups, or the opennap networks.

yeah, madonna was the one that actually had prerecorded voices on here shit

she would come on like 20 seconds into the song and say "buy my fuckin album asshole" or some shit like that

Observing · 12-11-2004, 01:51 PM

doubt post, sorry

flashfire · 12-11-2004, 01:56 PM

someone post the timeline please

MrJackMeHoff · 12-11-2004, 02:06 PM

OLD NEWS BUT

Kazaa lite automaticaly filters out these files so its really no big deal.

psyko514 · 12-11-2004, 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike33
Old news. The thing about file sharing networks like Kazaa is that they naturally weed out the bogus songs because people who download the bad files remove them and therefore stop sharing it to others in the network.

That's not entirely accurate.

Companies like Overpeer have hundreds if not thousands of servers loaded with bogus files. Last I heard, they upload over 20 billion bogus files to users every month.

nmcog · 12-11-2004, 03:09 PM

Thats great.

Can't wait for a DRM OS aka. Palladium

Project-Shadow · 12-11-2004, 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
That's not entirely accurate.

Companies like Overpeer have hundreds if not thousands of servers loaded with bogus files. Last I heard, they upload over 20 billion bogus files to users every month.

Something like that wouldnt suprise me, they have really fast servers and get a tonne of searches. Bogus file results can sometimes come back in the thousands... good old usenet.

brizzad · 12-11-2004, 04:27 PM

this has been going on for fucking ever

use torrents

alexg · 12-11-2004, 04:54 PM

lol no shit sherlock?

were you in comma for years and woke up yesterday or something?

infecto · 12-11-2004, 04:59 PM

Very very old news. Friend who works at a datacenter has a client who I shall not mention that owns a couple hundred rack servers that all they do 24/7 is flood the p2p networks with shit files. They just even replaced all their machines with brand new ones.

Adulter · 12-11-2004, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by brizzad

use torrents

Nasty · 12-11-2004, 05:11 PM

http://mp3shield.com/

Odin88 · 12-11-2004, 05:38 PM

just use www.shareaza.com . I switched to it after downloading heaps and heaps of fake songs on kazaa. Honestly, I have downloaded a few hundred mp3's since and NOT 1 has been fake!

n3in · 12-11-2004, 05:40 PM

i thought we all already knew this ?

12-11-2004, 05:42 PM

That's why the smart have gone with bit torrent. Kazaa is full of shit.

AdultNex · 12-11-2004, 07:11 PM

There's something wrong with you if you didn't know the songs were purposely being corrupted...

It's pretty obvious.

Btw, n00bs use Kazaa.

Boss Traffic Jim · 12-11-2004, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
Good move on their part, what would you do if you were them?

I Agree

Donny · 12-11-2004, 07:23 PM

I have an idea... PURCHASE your music.

I have never downloaded a song that I haven't purchased (I love iTunes).

Respect copyrights, fucking juveniles.

infecto · 12-11-2004, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex

Btw, n00bs use Kazaa.

Actually noobs are anyone who uses p2p or torrents. They ruin it all for the people who know wtf they are doing.

Odin88 · 12-11-2004, 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
I have an idea... PURCHASE your music.

I have never downloaded a song that I haven't purchased (I love iTunes).

Respect copyrights, fucking juveniles.

blah blah blah.

sean416 · 12-11-2004, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by infecto
Actually noobs are anyone who uses p2p or torrents. They ruin it all for the people who know wtf they are doing.

are you IRC leet?

Donny · 12-11-2004, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Odin88
blah blah blah.

Blah blah blah all you want. You're still fucking stealing.

Donny · 12-11-2004, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Blah blah blah all you want. You're still fucking stealing.

Oh, and I forgot to add:

Your business must be doing really shitty if you have to steal songs. They only cost 99 cents on iTunes.

moneybiz · 12-11-2004, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boner 2.0
P2P = feds party

idiot

iwantchixx · 12-11-2004, 09:38 PM

I've learned something about kazaa.

If it's bogus, it downloads.

if it's legit, it takes days to get or sticks in "no source" for days on end even though there is 100's of people sharing the same tune in the search results.

I gave up long ago and either buy the cd after a friend lets me listen to his or just hit the IRC channels and grab full albums, delete 90 percent of the songs in the zip and just keep the one I want.

Odin88 · 12-11-2004, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Oh, and I forgot to add:

Your business must be doing really shitty if you have to steal songs. They only cost 99 cents on iTunes.

Business is fine. Thanks for your concern though.

BIGTYMER · 12-11-2004, 10:46 PM

Old news.

chodadog · 12-12-2004, 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wes
old news.

This shit was old news a year ago even.

retrograde · 12-12-2004, 12:21 AM

They've been doing this for a long time.

Cash · 12-12-2004, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
Kazaa lite automaticaly filters out these files so its really no big deal.

That's not true, I use kazaa lite and still get corrupted files.

Well, it may be old news, my bad for not knowing that, but I learnt something useful from this thread

12-11-2004, 01:14 PM	#1
Cash Click on my TCG signature Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 20,825	Bogus songs on KAZAA made on purpose to discourage downloading! I suspected that, and after I watched a documentary on BBC I saw this was for real, companies placing bogus songs (repetitive beginnings for all the mp3 file, noise ...) to make music downloading unpleasant and discourage Kazaa and other peer to peer programs' users ... An American company from New York, called Overpeer, does that. http://www.zeropaid.com/news/article.../07052002e.php http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...F-8&q=overpeer __________________ $9.95/month for 15000 GB bandwidth monthly, unlimited (sub)domains and MySQL5, PHP4/5, 500 GB disk storage! ; use any of these invitation codes: 216263692101; 408636009193; 846090586647; my ICQ 30160426! Last edited by Cash; 12-11-2004 at 01:15 PM..

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Observing Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 809	Well this news is about 2 years old I believe, at least that when they first started doing it. Anyways, it's a good move, but hopefully they have more good moves. I'm not holy in general but I believe that p2p programs in general and late especially bittorrent are killing all kinds of entertainment industries, among these adult. I've heard some adult webmasters argue that they use p2p to their advantage and you just gotta know how to use it... This argument is weak because it's only valid because they can't beat it. In reality it would be better for all parties if it wasn't around. Afterall, we all know porn surfers are the most honest people in the world don't we? Let's have more ways of tracking down the people who put out copyright protected material on the internet and let's have higher penalties for the ones who redistribute it with a p2p program. P2p thinks it's invincible right now and that it can never be shut down, perhaps not, but their networks can be flooded with fake shit and with better punishment for users distributing it can become very unattractive to use. dunno why I keep typing better stop __________________ ICQ: 278-457-533

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Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	Old news. The thing about file sharing networks like Kazaa is that they naturally weed out the bogus songs because people who download the bad files remove them and therefore stop sharing it to others in the network. Last edited by Drake; 12-11-2004 at 01:38 PM..

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jamzyamz Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 22	Madonna was one of the first. At least 2 years ago. Also some unknown bands name their songs after a likeminded band to get you to check them out. That's fuckin' annoying. Best bet... don't use kazaa. Get yer shit from the newsgroups, or the opennap networks. __________________ Chance favors the prepared mind

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infecto Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,697	Very very old news. Friend who works at a datacenter has a client who I shall not mention that owns a couple hundred rack servers that all they do 24/7 is flood the p2p networks with shit files. They just even replaced all their machines with brand new ones.

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Odin88 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: au Posts: 3,267	just use www.shareaza.com . I switched to it after downloading heaps and heaps of fake songs on kazaa. Honestly, I have downloaded a few hundred mp3's since and NOT 1 has been fake!

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12-11-2004, 05:42 PM	#35
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	That's why the smart have gone with bit torrent. Kazaa is full of shit.

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AdultNex Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Bostonnnn Posts: 8,985	There's something wrong with you if you didn't know the songs were purposely being corrupted... It's pretty obvious. Btw, n00bs use Kazaa.

12-11-2004, 07:23 PM	#38
Donny As you wish... Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 13,754	I have an idea... PURCHASE your music. I have never downloaded a song that I haven't purchased (I love iTunes). Respect copyrights, fucking juveniles.

12-11-2004, 09:38 PM	#45
iwantchixx Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: The Boonies Posts: 12,860	I've learned something about kazaa. If it's bogus, it downloads. if it's legit, it takes days to get or sticks in "no source" for days on end even though there is 100's of people sharing the same tune in the search results. I gave up long ago and either buy the cd after a friend lets me listen to his or just hit the IRC channels and grab full albums, delete 90 percent of the songs in the zip and just keep the one I want.

12-11-2004, 10:46 PM	#47
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066	Old news.

12-12-2004, 12:21 AM	#49
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