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Cash 12-11-2004 01:14 PM

Bogus songs on KAZAA made on purpose to discourage downloading!
 
I suspected that, and after I watched a documentary on BBC I saw this was for real, companies placing bogus songs (repetitive beginnings for all the mp3 file, noise ...) to make music downloading unpleasant and discourage Kazaa and other peer to peer programs' users ... An American company from New York, called Overpeer, does that.

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/article.../07052002e.php

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...F-8&q=overpeer

:321GFY :ak47: :BangBang:

Dildozer 12-11-2004 01:18 PM

Good move on their part, what would you do if you were them?

wes 12-11-2004 01:21 PM

old news.

Theo 12-11-2004 01:22 PM

that's sooo wrong

boner 2.0 12-11-2004 01:22 PM

P2P = feds party :2 cents:

WiredGuy 12-11-2004 01:22 PM

I have a friend who's doing a lengthy research paper for his masters degree on various polution techniques on the Kazaa network for copyrighted songs. Some really interesting stats he's getting from 1 week to official release of a new song to the week afterwards, seeing how much of a variation there is in corrupt files on the Kazaa networks.

WG

psyko514 12-11-2004 01:24 PM

This is really old news. Overpeer has been around for a while.

Dirty F 12-11-2004 01:25 PM

Welcome to 2 years ago.

Fake Nick 12-11-2004 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Battuss
Welcome to 2 years ago.

Jace 12-11-2004 01:27 PM

yeah, they have been doing that for YEARS

psyko514 12-11-2004 01:28 PM

did you guys hear that Napster, the free P2P network, was shut down?

Project-Shadow 12-11-2004 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
did you guys hear that Napster, the free P2P network, was shut down?
SHIT WHEN WAS THIS?

garett 12-11-2004 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
Good move on their part, what would you do if you were them?
Cash in on all the cd sales as a result of p2p.

Whether or not you would buy a cd after hearing a few tracks you downloaded is a different story. But lots of people do.

I can't stand to listen to the radio. So I download music instead. If I like what I hear enough (usually 3 or 4 tracks off an album) I'll go buy the album.

If I can't get a few tracks to listen to before buying an album I just won't buy it. People are sick of getting an album for one track and having the rest of them suck. And forget the radio... they can pay me to listen to the crap being pushed over the air waves these days.

Rantan 12-11-2004 01:31 PM

welcome to 2 years ago..they've been putting bad copys of music on p2p networks for a long time...

crockett 12-11-2004 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
Good move on their part, what would you do if you were them?
If I were the music industry I would have set up legal versions of P2P sharing networks and charged a small monthly fee.

I would then allow limited mp3 downloads from my network servers but unlimited downloads of approved mp3s on the network between sharing users.

This would have nipped the whole shared mp3 issue in the butt, right from the beginning. Sure of course there would have been illegal P2P networks but they could have picked up a major part of that internet traffic, if they would have done it from the beginning instead of fighting the technology.

If they would have built up a solid network like this at the start, it would have allowed the music industry to test new bands on the public with out putting out the kind of cash they do now. They could have had instance response from the public on new bands and so on. This could have been a win win situation for the record companies and new bands, but instead they couldn't see past their greed.

Observing 12-11-2004 01:36 PM

Well this news is about 2 years old I believe, at least that when they first started doing it. Anyways, it's a good move, but hopefully they have more good moves. I'm not holy in general but I believe that p2p programs in general and late especially bittorrent are killing all kinds of entertainment industries, among these adult.

I've heard some adult webmasters argue that they use p2p to their advantage and you just gotta know how to use it... This argument is weak because it's only valid because they can't beat it. In reality it would be better for all parties if it wasn't around. Afterall, we all know porn surfers are the most honest people in the world don't we?

Let's have more ways of tracking down the people who put out copyright protected material on the internet and let's have higher penalties for the ones who redistribute it with a p2p program. P2p thinks it's invincible right now and that it can never be shut down, perhaps not, but their networks can be flooded with fake shit and with better punishment for users distributing it can become very unattractive to use.

dunno why I keep typing better stop

Drake 12-11-2004 01:37 PM

Old news. The thing about file sharing networks like Kazaa is that they naturally weed out the bogus songs because people who download the bad files remove them and therefore stop sharing it to others in the network.

Cash 12-11-2004 01:40 PM

They must have done a poor job if they started 2 years ago, since I ran into more bogus songs on Kazaa only these last months.

jamzyamz 12-11-2004 01:43 PM

Madonna was one of the first. At least 2 years ago. Also some unknown bands name their songs after a likeminded band to get you to check them out.

That's fuckin' annoying.

Best bet... don't use kazaa. Get yer shit from the newsgroups, or the opennap networks.

psyko514 12-11-2004 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cash
They must have done a poor job if they started 2 years ago, since I ran into more bogus songs on Kazaa only these last months.
All popular and newly released tracks from the top 5 labels have been like that for a long time. I stopped using Kazaa a year ago.

Jace 12-11-2004 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jamzyamz
Madonna was one of the first. At least 2 years ago. Also some unknown bands name their songs after a likeminded band to get you to check them out.

That's fuckin' annoying.

Best bet... don't use kazaa. Get yer shit from the newsgroups, or the opennap networks.

yeah, madonna was the one that actually had prerecorded voices on here shit

she would come on like 20 seconds into the song and say "buy my fuckin album asshole" or some shit like that

Observing 12-11-2004 01:51 PM

doubt post, sorry

flashfire 12-11-2004 01:56 PM

someone post the timeline please

MrJackMeHoff 12-11-2004 02:06 PM

OLD NEWS BUT

Kazaa lite automaticaly filters out these files so its really no big deal.

psyko514 12-11-2004 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mike33
Old news. The thing about file sharing networks like Kazaa is that they naturally weed out the bogus songs because people who download the bad files remove them and therefore stop sharing it to others in the network.
That's not entirely accurate.

Companies like Overpeer have hundreds if not thousands of servers loaded with bogus files. Last I heard, they upload over 20 billion bogus files to users every month.

nmcog 12-11-2004 03:09 PM

Thats great.

Can't wait for a DRM OS aka. Palladium

Project-Shadow 12-11-2004 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by psyko514
That's not entirely accurate.

Companies like Overpeer have hundreds if not thousands of servers loaded with bogus files. Last I heard, they upload over 20 billion bogus files to users every month.

Something like that wouldnt suprise me, they have really fast servers and get a tonne of searches. Bogus file results can sometimes come back in the thousands... good old usenet.

brizzad 12-11-2004 04:27 PM

this has been going on for fucking ever

use torrents :)

alexg 12-11-2004 04:54 PM

lol no shit sherlock?

were you in comma for years and woke up yesterday or something? :1orglaugh

infecto 12-11-2004 04:59 PM

Very very old news. Friend who works at a datacenter has a client who I shall not mention that owns a couple hundred rack servers that all they do 24/7 is flood the p2p networks with shit files. They just even replaced all their machines with brand new ones.

Adulter 12-11-2004 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by brizzad

use torrents

Nasty 12-11-2004 05:11 PM

http://mp3shield.com/

Odin88 12-11-2004 05:38 PM

just use www.shareaza.com . I switched to it after downloading heaps and heaps of fake songs on kazaa. Honestly, I have downloaded a few hundred mp3's since and NOT 1 has been fake!

n3in 12-11-2004 05:40 PM

i thought we all already knew this ?

shermo 12-11-2004 05:42 PM

That's why the smart have gone with bit torrent. Kazaa is full of shit. :Graucho

AdultNex 12-11-2004 07:11 PM

There's something wrong with you if you didn't know the songs were purposely being corrupted...

It's pretty obvious.

Btw, n00bs use Kazaa. :winkwink:

Boss Traffic Jim 12-11-2004 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dildozer
Good move on their part, what would you do if you were them?
I Agree:)

Donny 12-11-2004 07:23 PM

I have an idea... PURCHASE your music.

I have never downloaded a song that I haven't purchased (I love iTunes).

Respect copyrights, fucking juveniles.

infecto 12-11-2004 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultNex

Btw, n00bs use Kazaa. :winkwink:

Actually noobs are anyone who uses p2p or torrents. They ruin it all for the people who know wtf they are doing.

Odin88 12-11-2004 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
I have an idea... PURCHASE your music.

I have never downloaded a song that I haven't purchased (I love iTunes).

Respect copyrights, fucking juveniles.

blah blah blah.

sean416 12-11-2004 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by infecto
Actually noobs are anyone who uses p2p or torrents. They ruin it all for the people who know wtf they are doing.
are you IRC leet? :Graucho

Donny 12-11-2004 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Odin88
blah blah blah.
Blah blah blah all you want. You're still fucking stealing.

Donny 12-11-2004 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Blah blah blah all you want. You're still fucking stealing.
Oh, and I forgot to add:

Your business must be doing really shitty if you have to steal songs. They only cost 99 cents on iTunes.

moneybiz 12-11-2004 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by boner 2.0
P2P = feds party :2 cents:
idiot

iwantchixx 12-11-2004 09:38 PM

I've learned something about kazaa.

If it's bogus, it downloads.

if it's legit, it takes days to get or sticks in "no source" for days on end even though there is 100's of people sharing the same tune in the search results.

I gave up long ago and either buy the cd after a friend lets me listen to his or just hit the IRC channels and grab full albums, delete 90 percent of the songs in the zip and just keep the one I want.

Odin88 12-11-2004 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Oh, and I forgot to add:

Your business must be doing really shitty if you have to steal songs. They only cost 99 cents on iTunes.

Business is fine. Thanks for your concern though.

BIGTYMER 12-11-2004 10:46 PM

Old news. :Graucho

chodadog 12-12-2004 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wes
old news.
This shit was old news a year ago even.

retrograde 12-12-2004 12:21 AM

They've been doing this for a long time.

Cash 12-12-2004 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
Kazaa lite automaticaly filters out these files so its really no big deal.
That's not true, I use kazaa lite and still get corrupted files.

Well, it may be old news, my bad for not knowing that, but I learnt something useful from this thread :)


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