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Old 12-06-2004, 06:57 PM   #1
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$164.2 Million payed for certain assets of Name Development Ltd.

... most people won't know who that is [Name Development Ltd.] , but I guess http://www.ultimatesearch.com/ rings a bell.

... oh, this happened on the 23rd of november this year, just in case it was missed:
http://www.marchex.com/press.html#news14
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Old 12-06-2004, 07:00 PM   #2
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Welcome to last week, Taboo already posted about it
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Old 12-06-2004, 07:01 PM   #3
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Old 12-06-2004, 07:05 PM   #4
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Its only about $2,000 per domain.

He could have gotten way more.
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Old 12-06-2004, 07:06 PM   #5
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Thanks for posting it again. I missed it.
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Old 12-06-2004, 07:45 PM   #6
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here's the original link and some discussion...
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=393035
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Old 12-06-2004, 07:51 PM   #7
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Thanks for posting it again. I missed it.
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Old 12-06-2004, 08:17 PM   #8
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Its only about $2,000 per domain.

He could have gotten way more.
Come Kevin, you're saying that like $160mil is not a lot of money or as if there is anyone else stepping up to the plate to pay that kind of multiples for a domain portfolios.

None of his names were prime domains, or great domains, or big one worders. Now Lets put the 80/20 rule up. If 20% of his domains made him 80% of the money that leaves about 80,000 out there which are nearly worthless by themselves. How long would it take him to sell 20k names and get close to $150mil ? THan lets factor in time and energy ??

Now lets forget all i just said
$160mil in a bank accnt, making at least $10mil a year from bonds and other tax free investments. That sounds like a pretty good deal.

Time will tell if it was a good buy or a sell but for know Yun Ye made off like a bandid.
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Old 12-06-2004, 08:58 PM   #9
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Come Kevin, you're saying that like $160mil is not a lot of money or as if there is anyone else stepping up to the plate to pay that kind of multiples for a domain portfolios.

None of his names were prime domains, or great domains, or big one worders. Now Lets put the 80/20 rule up. If 20% of his domains made him 80% of the money that leaves about 80,000 out there which are nearly worthless by themselves. How long would it take him to sell 20k names and get close to $150mil ? THan lets factor in time and energy ??

Now lets forget all i just said
$160mil in a bank accnt, making at least $10mil a year from bonds and other tax free investments. That sounds like a pretty good deal.

Time will tell if it was a good buy or a sell but for know Yun Ye made off like a bandid.


ditto slavik!
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Old 12-06-2004, 09:01 PM   #10
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Come Kevin, you're saying that like $160mil is not a lot of money or as if there is anyone else stepping up to the plate to pay that kind of multiples for a domain portfolios.

None of his names were prime domains, or great domains, or big one worders. Now Lets put the 80/20 rule up. If 20% of his domains made him 80% of the money that leaves about 80,000 out there which are nearly worthless by themselves. How long would it take him to sell 20k names and get close to $150mil ? THan lets factor in time and energy ??

Now lets forget all i just said
$160mil in a bank accnt, making at least $10mil a year from bonds and other tax free investments. That sounds like a pretty good deal.

Time will tell if it was a good buy or a sell but for know Yun Ye made off like a bandid.
Its a fantastic score, no doubt, but I would still argue he would have been better off holding on for a few more years. There's also a better play he could have easily pulled off and netted over 3 times that amount.
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Old 12-06-2004, 09:03 PM   #11
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isn't that the chinese guy?
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Old 12-06-2004, 09:36 PM   #12
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Its a fantastic score, no doubt, but I would still argue he would have been better off holding on for a few more years. There's also a better play he could have easily pulled off and netted over 3 times that amount.
which would be what ? Do tell please.

Everyone says he sold to cheap "after the fact" but as slavik says $150+ mill in the banks is plenty of cushioning. . . guess time will tell.
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Old 12-06-2004, 09:39 PM   #13
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Its a fantastic score, no doubt, but I would still argue he would have been better off holding on for a few more years. There's also a better play he could have easily pulled off and netted over 3 times that amount.
Since the deal has already been done, what play would that be great sensei?
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Old 12-06-2004, 09:53 PM   #14
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very sweet deal if you ask me... $160+ million is more than enough to capitalize on. I remember a long time ago ultimatesearch took one of our unused domains... luckily it was a shitty one but funny to know how big of a reward they got for what they have been doing.
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Old 12-06-2004, 10:27 PM   #15
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Since the deal has already been done, what play would that be great sensei?
Like I'm gonna post a technique on that level on GFY for free. Not. That kind of investment banking / M&A strategy costs big bucks.
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Old 12-06-2004, 11:45 PM   #16
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Come Kevin, you're saying that like $160mil is not a lot of money or as if there is anyone else stepping up to the plate to pay that kind of multiples for a domain portfolios.

None of his names were prime domains, or great domains, or big one worders. Now Lets put the 80/20 rule up. If 20% of his domains made him 80% of the money that leaves about 80,000 out there which are nearly worthless by themselves. How long would it take him to sell 20k names and get close to $150mil ? THan lets factor in time and energy ??

Now lets forget all i just said
$160mil in a bank accnt, making at least $10mil a year from bonds and other tax free investments. That sounds like a pretty good deal.

Time will tell if it was a good buy or a sell but for know Yun Ye made off like a bandid.
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Like I'm gonna post a technique on that level on GFY for free. Not. That kind of investment banking / M&A strategy costs big bucks.
Awww maaaaaan! Well, I will call you for private council when I buy domain number 99,999. Don't worry, it will be a while before I call you because I'm only at 211 now.
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Since the deal has already been done, what play would that be great sensei?
deal has not been done yet
Marchex has 6 months to come up with funding
only an intent of sale letter was signed so far
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very sweet deal if you ask me... $160+ million is more than enough to capitalize on. I remember a long time ago ultimatesearch took one of our unused domains... luckily it was a shitty one but funny to know how big of a reward they got for what they have been doing.
yeah same here, we've let some domains go that ended up with Ult. I've also bought few names from him and sold him a name.
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Like I'm gonna post a technique on that level on GFY for free. Not. That kind of investment banking / M&A strategy costs big bucks.
KRL wouldnt that same technique make more money if one has $160mil in their pocket to start with?
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KRL wouldnt that same technique make more money if one has $160mil in their pocket to start with?
No, it would have worked without this sale happening first.
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