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chowda · 12-03-2004, 05:56 PM

i need a programmer, contact me on icq 152179941
thanks yo.

azguy · 12-03-2004, 05:57 PM

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Originally posted by chowda
i need a programmer, contact me on icq 152179941
thanks yo.

It's a good thing there aren't 50 different programming languages out there.

xenophobic · 12-03-2004, 05:58 PM

Never amazes me the amount of people whom post just that one line, how about including:
What type of job: application, web, etc
language(s) required.

so you don't waste anyone's time - including your own?

chowda · 12-03-2004, 06:02 PM

languages required, c, php,

its a web app

azguy · 12-03-2004, 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by chowda
languages required, c, php,

its a web app

c? Who the fuck programs in c for web apps these days?

xenophobic · 12-03-2004, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
c? Who the fuck programs in c for web apps these days?

I know plenty of people whom write web apps in C/C++ (or include inline C) ?

azguy · 12-03-2004, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
I know plenty of people whom write web apps in C/C++ (or include inline C) ?

Good luck to them!

Crypt · 12-03-2004, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
c? Who the fuck programs in c for web apps these days?

When you handle more than 2M hits daily, php is useless

azguy · 12-03-2004, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
I know plenty of people whom write web apps in C/C++ (or include inline C) ?

Of course it depends on the app, but when someone posts a msg calling for a web app developer on GFY, I doubt C is really needed. It just sounds nice, I guess.

azguy · 12-03-2004, 06:09 PM

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Originally posted by Crypt
When you handle more than 2M hits daily, php is useless

Thanks

next

Rrrrrrrrright. Who configures your servers?

Crypt · 12-03-2004, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
Rrrrrrrrright. Who configures your servers?

Myself , i cant find one for my VIC-20 cluster , ill try to upgrade to comodore-64 soon

xenophobic · 12-03-2004, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
Of course it depends on the app, but when someone posts a msg calling for a web app developer on GFY, I doubt C is really needed. It just sounds nice, I guess.

I would imagine for IPC there would be great benefits to writing applications for the web in C, however we're not talking a guestbook here, or someone's photo gallery

so I assume you're correct in the assumption that the person does not require C.

azguy · 12-03-2004, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by Crypt
Myself , i cant find one for my VIC-20 cluster , ill try to upgrade to comodore-64 soon

LOL

PHP along with Python is the best combination. C is for old people, and for old apps.

azguy · 12-03-2004, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
LOL PHP along with Python is the best combination. C is for old people, and for old apps.

But yes, sometimes C is the best choice. We used it as well for a few portions of our application.

Crypt · 12-03-2004, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
LOL PHP along with Python is the best combination. C is for old people, and for old apps.

Python dont work on a vic-20 ;)

Crypt · 12-03-2004, 06:15 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
But yes, sometimes C is the best choice. We used it as well for a few portions of our application.

Exactly why he asked for C

azguy · 12-03-2004, 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by Crypt
Exactly why he asked for C

I'm sure

Crypt · 12-03-2004, 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
I'm sure

I know what the project is, and beleive me , php cant work for this
A programmer already tried and failed.

azguy · 12-03-2004, 06:22 PM

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Originally posted by Crypt
I know what the project is, and beleive me , php cant work for this
A programmer already tried and failed.

PHP can do pretty much "anything". However, some tasks may not be designed as efficiently as they would in other languages.

chowda · 12-03-2004, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by Crypt
I know what the project is, and beleive me , php cant work for this
A programmer already tried and failed.

dont them him shit, theres no point.

Crypt · 12-03-2004, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
PHP can do pretty much "anything". However, some tasks may not be designed as efficiently as they would in other languages.

Exactly, like multi-threads

azguy · 12-03-2004, 06:26 PM

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Originally posted by Crypt
Exactly, like multi-threads

That do what?

Crypt · 12-03-2004, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
That do what?

This is the part you dont need to know if you dont program it ;)

azguy · 12-03-2004, 06:29 PM

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Originally posted by Crypt
This is the part you dont need to know if you dont program it ;)

http://hristov.com/andrey/projects/p...s_with_PHP.pdf

azguy · 12-03-2004, 06:30 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
http://hristov.com/andrey/projects/p...s_with_PHP.pdf

Let me know what you think after you read this.

Crypt · 12-03-2004, 06:36 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
Let me know what you think after you read this.

I stopped to read where it say , PHP is not threads-ready

azguy · 12-03-2004, 06:38 PM

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Originally posted by Crypt
I stopped to read where it say , PHP is not threads-ready

But it is possible

Crypt · 12-03-2004, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
But it is possible

Less trouble in C with a php interface ;)

azguy · 12-03-2004, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by Crypt
Less trouble in C with a php interface ;)

Probably, yeah. I would still prefer Python over C any day

Crypt · 12-03-2004, 06:49 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
Probably, yeah. I would still prefer Python over C any day

The prob is, you get 500 C coders for 1 python one hehe

azguy · 12-03-2004, 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by Crypt
The prob is, you get 500 C coders for 1 python one hehe

LOL

aSStig · 12-03-2004, 07:59 PM

message sent . . . check ICQ

Hustlin Entertainment · 12-03-2004, 08:07 PM

C/C++ is on a much higher level than php literally :D

qw12er · 12-03-2004, 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
It's a good thing there aren't 50 different programming languages out there.

lol!

cocky · 12-03-2004, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
It's a good thing there aren't 50 different programming languages out there.

no shit

cocky · 12-03-2004, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
c? Who the fuck programs in c for web apps these days?

fuzebox · 12-03-2004, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by Crypt
When you handle more than 2M hits daily, php is useless

Femme Fa'tale · 12-03-2004, 09:38 PM

Hit me up !

Thanks !

Crypt · 12-03-2004, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by fuzebox

what is funny?

azguy · 12-03-2004, 09:47 PM

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Originally posted by Crypt
what is funny?

I have had sites with over 2M hits before. Back then PHP 4 had absolutely no problem handling them all, quickly and efficiently.

Crypt · 12-03-2004, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by azguy
I have had sites with over 2M hits before. Back then PHP 4 had absolutely no problem handling them all, quickly and efficiently.

What is funny, its the new legion of programmers, they think all can be done in php or visual basic. They know only this. They steal hotscripts scripts and mofidy them 90% of the time and resell them.

Yes almost all can be done in php or visual basic , but you dont always have the performance.

IE: Fetch 1M urls daily from a SE, and post to them daily.

Which one will be the more fast?

php interface with C and multi-threads?
php interface with curl ?
php only ?

If your reply is php only, apply to mcdonald.

mryellow · 12-03-2004, 10:16 PM

Sure a PHP page that just inserts the date can handle lots of hits.

However when it gets more complex you really do need C.

If you put MySQL in that mix then just forget it.

If the project is interesting I might have a look.......
ICQ: 10638430

-Ben

azguy · 12-03-2004, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by Crypt
What is funny, its the new legion of programmers, they think all can be done in php or visual basic. They know only this. They steal hotscripts scripts and mofidy them 90% of the time and resell them.

Yes almost all can be done in php or visual basic , but you dont always have the performance.

IE: Fetch 1M urls daily from a SE, and post to them daily.

Which one will be the more fast?

php interface with C and multi-threads?
php interface with curl ?
php only ?

If your reply is php only, apply to mcdonald.

LOL. Python & PHP man, I told you before. Adultie.com is powered by Python & PHP (and trust me, we are doing some serious processing. You will see when it's launched. This type of application has NEVER EVER been seen before, and no one has EVER thought about doing it).

Why not Quiznos?

mryellow · 12-03-2004, 11:00 PM

Guess that's why Adultie is timing out on me :-P

Seriously dood.....
no programmer will ever argue that C is slower than PHP.

Depends on your application..... great.... PHP works for you...

I have things it would never work on, it would die well before C
for a lot of applications.

So great.... u live on.... but don't try and tell us that PHP is the
fastest thing in the world. It's an interpreted scripting language
and no more.

-Ben

azguy · 12-03-2004, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by mryellow
Guess that's why Adultie is timing out on me :-P

Seriously dood.....
no programmer will ever argue that C is slower than PHP.

Depends on your application..... great.... PHP works for you...

I have things it would never work on, it would die well before C
for a lot of applications.

So great.... u live on.... but don't try and tell us that PHP is the
fastest thing in the world. It's an interpreted scripting language
and no more.

-Ben

SCOTTSDALE, AZ - December 4, 2004 --

LOL. Not live yet, of course.

C is obviously faster than PHP, as PHP is freaking written in C. Common sense. What I'm saying is that people sometimes think that C is needed just for the heck of coding in C. I agree that some applications are better off enjoying the capabilities of C. I never said it's the fastest.

From my experience, MOST web apps are fairly simple and can benefit solely from PHP code. Since the first post was so basic and meaningless, I made the assumption that the person seeking programmers is one of those

VideoJ · 12-04-2004, 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Crypt

IE: Fetch 1M urls daily from a SE, and post to them daily.

Which one will be the more fast?

php interface with C and multi-threads?
php interface with curl ?
php only ?

If your reply is php only, apply to mcdonald.

Your problem has nothing to do with the performance of the language and everything to do with getting as many http requests going at the same time. i can think of at least 2 ways i can do this php only, that would be as fast as the c/multithread version. And a lot simplier to debug and support as well.

There are problem domains where c/c++ is a (much) better performer, for example the forex application I'm develoiping now, but for most web work, it's a wash.

romaninsh · 12-05-2004, 12:30 AM

I've seen a programmers whos programs written in C are slower than i write in PHP ;)

C always was and will be closer to the computer bones and therefore fast. PHP reduces development cost, but it would newer be as fast.

One thing to know language, other thing to know about the "programming". Having a little bit of serious approach to the task planing, complexity estimation and development model you can get some impressive results.

http://chokertraffic.com/
regular 2.4 xeon
2-3 million hits daily served, local response time less than 1 milisecond.
over 1k webmasters
cookie checking, language tracking, complex business logic, dynamic priorities, stats
online statistics and active mirroring
and soon - hitbot protection.
AND THE LOAD ON THE BOX IS 0.00 !!

At times of backup it raises to 0.04. Imagine the power - it hardly uses 1% of system capacity.

System uses FastCGI, C, PHP and MySQL, but what gives the power is a properly implemented in-memory cache.

so my point is:

If you are bad at programming, you would suck with any language.

romans

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mryellow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 934	Sure a PHP page that just inserts the date can handle lots of hits. However when it gets more complex you really do need C. If you put MySQL in that mix then just forget it. If the project is interesting I might have a look....... ICQ: 10638430 -Ben __________________ Cyberwurx Hosting After trying 5 different hosts, I found the best. Since 1997 I've had 2 hours of downtime. Fast support, great techs, no hype, no gimmicks. <- I in no way endorse whatever just got stuck on the left of my post.

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mryellow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Australia Posts: 934	Guess that's why Adultie is timing out on me :-P Seriously dood..... no programmer will ever argue that C is slower than PHP. Depends on your application..... great.... PHP works for you... I have things it would never work on, it would die well before C for a lot of applications. So great.... u live on.... but don't try and tell us that PHP is the fastest thing in the world. It's an interpreted scripting language and no more. -Ben __________________ Cyberwurx Hosting After trying 5 different hosts, I found the best. Since 1997 I've had 2 hours of downtime. Fast support, great techs, no hype, no gimmicks. <- I in no way endorse whatever just got stuck on the left of my post.

12-03-2004, 05:58 PM	#3
xenophobic Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Posts: 874	Never amazes me the amount of people whom post just that one line, how about including: What type of job: application, web, etc language(s) required. so you don't waste anyone's time - including your own?

12-03-2004, 08:07 PM	#33
Hustlin Entertainment So Fucking Banned Join Date: May 2002 Location: Nassau,Bahamas Posts: 2,326	C/C++ is on a much higher level than php literally :D

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romaninsh Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 39	I've seen a programmers whos programs written in C are slower than i write in PHP ;) C always was and will be closer to the computer bones and therefore fast. PHP reduces development cost, but it would newer be as fast. One thing to know language, other thing to know about the "programming". Having a little bit of serious approach to the task planing, complexity estimation and development model you can get some impressive results. http://chokertraffic.com/ regular 2.4 xeon 2-3 million hits daily served, local response time less than 1 milisecond. over 1k webmasters cookie checking, language tracking, complex business logic, dynamic priorities, stats online statistics and active mirroring and soon - hitbot protection. AND THE LOAD ON THE BOX IS 0.00 !! At times of backup it raises to 0.04. Imagine the power - it hardly uses 1% of system capacity. System uses FastCGI, C, PHP and MySQL, but what gives the power is a properly implemented in-memory cache. so my point is: If you are bad at programming, you would suck with any language. romans __________________ A proud developer of ChokerTraffic and TTT-C (ICQ: 266-606-026) Last edited by romaninsh; 12-05-2004 at 12:31 AM..