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Old 12-03-2004, 02:52 AM   #1
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CIA Calls For More Internet Security

Now where do you think this is going????

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The Washington Times
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Tenet calls for Internet security
By Shaun Waterman
UNITED PRESS INTERNATIONAL
Published December 2, 2004

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Former CIA Director George J. Tenet yesterday called for new security measures to guard against attacks on the United States that use the Internet, which he called "a potential Achilles' heel."
"I know that these actions will be controversial in this age when we still think the Internet is a free and open society with no control or accountability," he told an information-technology security conference in Washington, "but ultimately the Wild West must give way to governance and control."
The former CIA director said telecommunications -- and specifically the Internet -- are a back door through which terrorists and other enemies of the United States could attack the country, even though great strides have been made in securing the physical infrastructure.
The Internet "represents a potential Achilles' heel for our financial stability and physical security if the networks we are creating are not protected," Mr. Tenet said.
He said known adversaries, including "intelligence services, military organizations and non-state actors," are researching information attacks against the United States.
Within the federal government, the Department of Homeland Security has the lead role in protecting the Internet from terrorism. But the department's head of cyber-security recently quit amid reports that he had clashed with his superiors.
Mr. Tenet, who retired in July as director of the CIA after seven years, warned that al Qaeda remains a sophisticated group, even though its first-tier leadership largely has been destroyed.
It is "undoubtedly mapping vulnerabilities and weaknesses in our telecommunications networks," he said.
Mr. Tenet pointed out that the modernization of key industries in the United States is making them more vulnerable by connecting them with an Internet that is open to attack.
The way the Internet was built might be part of the problem, he said. Its open architecture allows Web surfing, but that openness makes the system vulnerable, Mr. Tenet said.
Access to networks like the World Wide Web might need to be limited to those who can show they take security seriously, he said.
Mr. Tenet called for industry to lead the way by "establishing and enforcing" security standards. Products need to be delivered to government and private-sector customers "with a new level of security and risk management already built in."
The national press, including United Press International (UPI), were excluded from yesterday's event, at Mr. Tenet's request, organizers said.




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Old 12-03-2004, 02:57 AM   #2
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Good, I think they should lock this bitch down.
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Old 12-03-2004, 02:59 AM   #3
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christ, they need to stop legislating at a whim and start using some common sense.
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Old 12-03-2004, 02:59 AM   #4
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Lets just kick russia off the internet. Less hackers and less chargebacks
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Old 12-03-2004, 02:59 AM   #5
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Good, I think they should lock this bitch down.
Twisty, but could this be a pretense to more control over free speech?

Lotta questions arise from this. If the CIA was so damned concerned about our safety they'd do something about illegal aliens coming in from all around the world, drunk driving which still kills and maims tens of thousands, cigarettes that kill a million or more.

Somethin' shakey bout the whole thing.
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Old 12-03-2004, 03:01 AM   #6
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Twisty, but could this be a pretense to more control over free speech?

Lotta questions arise from this. If the CIA was so damned concerned about our safety they'd do something about illegal aliens coming in from all around the world, drunk driving which still kills and maims tens of thousands, cigarettes that kill a million or more.

Somethin' shakey bout the whole thing.
theres no money to be made in that, why let webmasters have free sites when you can tax them for it?
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Old 12-03-2004, 03:01 AM   #7
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Lets just kick russia off the internet. Less hackers and less chargebacks
ROFL Hydro! What's extra funny is that the CIA is probably getting it's lessons from mainland China. They squeeze their internet access tighter than buttcheeks in size-too-small drawers.

I really am wondering what country I'm living in now.
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Old 12-03-2004, 03:03 AM   #8
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Twisty, but could this be a pretense to more control over free speech?

Lotta questions arise from this. If the CIA was so damned concerned about our safety they'd do something about illegal aliens coming in from all around the world, drunk driving which still kills and maims tens of thousands, cigarettes that kill a million or more.

Somethin' shakey bout the whole thing.
Hi,
Might want to look into the domestic charter of the CIA. They're intelligence - not law enforcement and are not (legally) allowed to operate (intelligence gathering) inside the United States
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Old 12-03-2004, 03:04 AM   #9
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theres no money to be made in that, why let webmasters have free sites when you can tax them for it?
Hey, good point!

You know they're gonna have to tax the net because it'll pay for the war and debt the war has caused.

Yet if people stop using the net to shop and barter it would slow down orders and deliveries to such a degree it would cripple the global economy.

I'm starting to think that if we make more sports equipment people will go outside and play instead of killing each other, but after watching the recent sports fights I'm wondering if there's hope if any.
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Old 12-03-2004, 03:07 AM   #10
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Hi,
Might want to look into the domestic charter of the CIA. They're intelligence - not law enforcement and are not (legally) allowed to operate (intelligence gathering) inside the United States
Xeno, yes we know what their charter says but is that what they read and follow?

Is there 'any' evidence or convictions wherein they've never violated that charter's mandate?

Heck, we've the right to 'freedom from fear of government' but everybody and their brother is scared of the government. Go figure.
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I think that US is leading step by step towards a dictatorship ...I am from a country which known this scourge and I can tell you that this kind of small steps in restrain the civil liberties justified as measures for "protection against a shadow enemy" will in the end set the stage for the final act of asuming the total control of your country by a group of ppls and "deleting" all the remains of the democracy .
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Old 12-03-2004, 03:12 AM   #12
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Xeno, yes we know what their charter says but is that what they read and follow?

Is there 'any' evidence or convictions wherein they've never violated that charter's mandate?

Heck, we've the right to 'freedom from fear of government' but everybody and their brother is scared of the government. Go figure.
The Bay of Pigs invasion comes to mind, the CIA were accused of training cuban rebels in Florida.

However my point is that they're game is intelligence, they can call for more security for the Internet, they do not make policy.

The whole "security" for Computers is flawed, 20 year old DoD security mandates are still not met in many operating systems, and the governent continually buy operating systems that only get C2 (low classification) if they're not networked.
I think that was one of the premises behind the DARPA sponser of the OpenBSD operating system (that didn't work out) one can only hope they'll start in their backyard first.
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I think that US is leading step by step towards a dictatorship ...I am from a country which known this scourge and I can tell you that this kind of small steps in restrain the civil liberties justified as measures for "protection against a shadow enemy" will in the end set the stage for the final act of asuming the total control of your country by a group of ppls and "deleting" all the remains of the democracy .
Moneymaker, just last night I was doing an interview on the radio about politics. The program was broadcast out of Canada and the very thing you've mentioned came up.

From my viewpoint, trying to take over the U.S. via a dictatorship will be useless. Reason being, who the heck would they get to enforce it? American troops and cops? No way. Those cops and troops all have families here and if one of them started that shit they'd have no home to return to. Americans have access to so many weapons as a group we're probably the largest army in Earth's history. Sure China and India have more people but they ain't armed, don't have free access to easily obtainable explosives and chemicals.

Sure they could try to take over the U.S. but there wouldn't be much left after they were done.
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Old 12-03-2004, 10:18 AM   #14
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The Bay of Pigs invasion comes to mind, the CIA were accused of training cuban rebels in Florida.

However my point is that they're game is intelligence, they can call for more security for the Internet, they do not make policy.

The whole "security" for Computers is flawed, 20 year old DoD security mandates are still not met in many operating systems, and the governent continually buy operating systems that only get C2 (low classification) if they're not networked.
I think that was one of the premises behind the DARPA sponser of the OpenBSD operating system (that didn't work out) one can only hope they'll start in their backyard first.
Good point Xeno! I remember as a wee lad the Bay Of Pigs operation taking place. Cuba was a hotbed then. I remember grown ups scared as shit in those days.

You're also right on the lack of security mandate compliance. You must be an old timer like me cause I thought everyone had forgotten.

I think the negligence is due to needing an open door to commit security breaches for purposes of espionage and theft.

Good points there!
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Old 12-03-2004, 10:46 AM   #16
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The way the Internet was built might be part of the problem, he said. Its open architecture allows Web surfing, but that openness makes the system vulnerable, Mr. Tenet said.
where has he been last two decades?
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Old 12-03-2004, 11:00 AM   #17
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Are you aware of the fact that mr Tenet is not part of the CIA anymore?
Therefore your thread title is misleading.
But who cares, huh?
This board has many dimwit retards who are still living with mom and pop and think that fucking a donkey is fun...
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