Google Toolbar Pagerank Info Is FAKE! - GoFuckYourself.com

European Lee · 12-03-2004, 06:56 AM

Google Tells Us that PageRank is for Entertainment Purposes Only
This is shocking news, I mean, we all knew PageRank was not something to look at too closely these days, but for Google to come out and say "The PageRank that is displayed in the Google Toolbar is for entertainment purposes only", kind of shocks me. I can not confirm this to be accurate, but a post at Search Engine Watch just a few minutes ago claims this to be the case. The member said that he emailed Google asking why a page's PageRank is zero and he got the following response from Google.

The PageRank that is displayed in the Google Toolbar is for entertainment purposes only. Due to repeated attempts by hackers to access this data, Google updates the PageRank data very infrequently because is it not secure. On average, the PR that is displayed in the Google Toolbar is several months old. If the toolbar is showing a PR of zero, this is because the user is visiting a new URL that hasn't been updated in the last update. The PR that is displayed by the Google Toolbar is not the same PR that is used to rank the webpage results so there is no need to be concerned if your PR is displayed as zero. If a site is showing up in the search results, it doesn't not have a real PR of zero, the Toolbar is just out of date.
Apparently, Google is still using PageRank to rank sites but just not displaying the current value to the Google Toolbar user.

http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/001214.html

Time to uninstall that fucker if its true

Regards,

Lee

Harmon · 12-03-2004, 06:58 AM

Very interesting if this is indeed true. Thanks for the post

who · 12-03-2004, 06:59 AM

Don't confuse yourself. The PR displayed in the toolbar is real PR data. The fact is that it is merely a representation of pagerank calculated several months prior.

Harmon · 12-03-2004, 07:02 AM

So if the toolbar PR has nothing to with the actual relevance of the listing, then it serves absolutely no purpose what so ever except entertainment. It means zilch. It's just a pretty green line. It doesn't matter if it's a year old, a month old, are an hour old.

martin_simpletraffic · 12-03-2004, 07:02 AM

well is nice to know that we can all check and learn from each other...

European Lee · 12-03-2004, 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Harmon
So if the toolbar PR has nothing to with the actual relevance of the listing, then it serves absolutely no purpose what so ever except entertainment. It means zilch. It's just a pretty green line. It doesn't matter if it's a year old, a month old, are an hour old.

Pretty much my train of thought too.

The Toolbar has just become worthless to webmasters IMHO.

Regards,

Lee

fris · 12-03-2004, 07:04 AM

www.rankwhere.com

Fake Nick · 12-03-2004, 07:23 AM

if you think after reading that (no news to me ) PR is useless for the SE game and for webmasters , you have like no clue whatsoever and probably have not enough knowledge to make money with SE

European Lee · 12-03-2004, 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fake Nick
if you think after reading that (no news to me ) PR is useless for the SE game and for webmasters , you have like no clue whatsoever and probably have not enough knowledge to make money with SE

Read the post again asshat.

I said the 'Google Toolbar' became useless not PR.

Regards,

Lee

DesignWise · 12-03-2004, 07:30 AM

gee... thanks for the info... and i dont trust the autofill feature either..

Fake Nick · 12-03-2004, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Read the post again asshat.

I said the 'Google Toolbar' became useless not PR.

Regards,

Lee

it isnt useless at all, you just have to know how to use it

Fake Nick · 12-03-2004, 07:45 AM

oh yeah , how you seo wizard going to use pr without the google toolbar ? ? ??

stop talking out your ass LEE you just said the pr and the toolbar are useless

no use for toolbar no use for pagerank

Harmon · 12-03-2004, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fake Nick
oh yeah , how you seo wizard going to use pr without the google toolbar ? ? ??

stop talking out your ass LEE you just said the pr and the toolbar are useless

no use for toolbar no use for pagerank

Who's talking out of their ass?

"The PR that is displayed by the Google Toolbar is not the same PR that is used to rank the webpage results so there is no need to be concerned if your PR is displayed as zero."

Fake Nick · 12-03-2004, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Harmon
Who's talking out of their ass?

"The PR that is displayed by the Google Toolbar is not the same PR that is used to rank the webpage results so there is no need to be concerned if your PR is displayed as zero."

whats your point ?

if you dont use google toolbar you cant use pagerank

its that simple,

also there are altered versions of the toolbar so you get the same info the algorythme uses to calculate your results

Cash · 12-03-2004, 08:04 AM

That PR was real at the time of the update, now it may be not, but it will be displayed as a new (real) PR at the time of a new update...

Harmon · 12-03-2004, 08:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cash
That PR was real at the time of the update, now it may be not, but it will be displayed as a new (real) PR at the time of a new update...

Okay. Maybe I am misunderstanding this. If the Google Toolbar PR is outdated and has no value as far as search results go, doesn't that make the toolbar PR useless except to webmasters that "think" that high PR in the toolbar means their sites rock?

Fake Nick · 12-03-2004, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Harmon
Okay. Maybe I am misunderstanding this. If the Google Toolbar PR is outdated and has no value as far as search results go, doesn't that make the toolbar PR useless except to webmasters that "think" that high PR in the toolbar means their sites rock?

it is outdated when there hasn't been an update for months if there has just been a new update it is not outdated

so you basically get old info , but still usefull , and the pagerank HAS value concerning the search results when it just has been updated

and again you have real time toolbars also , stop using the surfer version

European Lee · 12-03-2004, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Harmon
Okay. Maybe I am misunderstanding this. If the Google Toolbar PR is outdated and has no value as far as search results go, doesn't that make the toolbar PR useless except to webmasters that "think" that high PR in the toolbar means their sites rock?

That is how i understand it.

Unless you are using the Toolbar to search with also but then, you dont need the toolbar to search you can just go to google.com for that.

Regards,

Lee

Trax · 12-03-2004, 08:50 AM

this is very old news and has been known for a while now.
that however does not mean the PR is useless.... less inaccurate then before -> sure
but useless -> no way

there are other reasons to have the toolbar installed as well

12-03-2004, 06:56 AM	#1
European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	Google Toolbar Pagerank Info Is FAKE! Google Tells Us that PageRank is for Entertainment Purposes Only This is shocking news, I mean, we all knew PageRank was not something to look at too closely these days, but for Google to come out and say "The PageRank that is displayed in the Google Toolbar is for entertainment purposes only", kind of shocks me. I can not confirm this to be accurate, but a post at Search Engine Watch just a few minutes ago claims this to be the case. The member said that he emailed Google asking why a page's PageRank is zero and he got the following response from Google. The PageRank that is displayed in the Google Toolbar is for entertainment purposes only. Due to repeated attempts by hackers to access this data, Google updates the PageRank data very infrequently because is it not secure. On average, the PR that is displayed in the Google Toolbar is several months old. If the toolbar is showing a PR of zero, this is because the user is visiting a new URL that hasn't been updated in the last update. The PR that is displayed by the Google Toolbar is not the same PR that is used to rank the webpage results so there is no need to be concerned if your PR is displayed as zero. If a site is showing up in the search results, it doesn't not have a real PR of zero, the Toolbar is just out of date. Apparently, Google is still using PageRank to rank sites but just not displaying the current value to the Google Toolbar user. http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/001214.html Time to uninstall that fucker if its true Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

12-03-2004, 06:58 AM	#2
Harmon ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ) Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 20,010	Very interesting if this is indeed true. Thanks for the post __________________ [email protected]

12-03-2004, 07:02 AM	#4
Harmon ( ͡ʘ╭͜ʖ╮͡ʘ) Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 20,010	So if the toolbar PR has nothing to with the actual relevance of the listing, then it serves absolutely no purpose what so ever except entertainment. It means zilch. It's just a pretty green line. It doesn't matter if it's a year old, a month old, are an hour old. __________________ [email protected]

12-03-2004, 07:02 AM	#5
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12-03-2004, 06:59 AM	#3
who So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ICQ #23642053 Posts: 19,593	Don't confuse yourself. The PR displayed in the toolbar is real PR data. The fact is that it is merely a representation of pagerank calculated several months prior.

12-03-2004, 07:23 AM	#8
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12-03-2004, 07:45 AM	#12
Fake Nick So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: go troll goo! Posts: 7,708	oh yeah , how you seo wizard going to use pr without the google toolbar ? ? ?? stop talking out your ass LEE you just said the pr and the toolbar are useless no use for toolbar no use for pagerank

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12-03-2004, 08:50 AM	#19
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	this is very old news and has been known for a while now. that however does not mean the PR is useless.... less inaccurate then before -> sure but useless -> no way there are other reasons to have the toolbar installed as well