Google Toolbar Pagerank Info Is FAKE!

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  • European Lee
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2002
    • 7133

    #1

    Google Toolbar Pagerank Info Is FAKE!

    Google Tells Us that PageRank is for Entertainment Purposes Only
    This is shocking news, I mean, we all knew PageRank was not something to look at too closely these days, but for Google to come out and say "The PageRank that is displayed in the Google Toolbar is for entertainment purposes only", kind of shocks me. I can not confirm this to be accurate, but a post at Search Engine Watch just a few minutes ago claims this to be the case. The member said that he emailed Google asking why a page's PageRank is zero and he got the following response from Google.

    The PageRank that is displayed in the Google Toolbar is for entertainment purposes only. Due to repeated attempts by hackers to access this data, Google updates the PageRank data very infrequently because is it not secure. On average, the PR that is displayed in the Google Toolbar is several months old. If the toolbar is showing a PR of zero, this is because the user is visiting a new URL that hasn't been updated in the last update. The PR that is displayed by the Google Toolbar is not the same PR that is used to rank the webpage results so there is no need to be concerned if your PR is displayed as zero. If a site is showing up in the search results, it doesn't not have a real PR of zero, the Toolbar is just out of date.
    Apparently, Google is still using PageRank to rank sites but just not displaying the current value to the Google Toolbar user.

    http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/001214.html

    Time to uninstall that fucker if its true

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    Lee
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  • Harmon
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    • Mar 2004
    • 20012

    #2
    Very interesting if this is indeed true. Thanks for the post
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    • who
      So Fucking Banned
      • Aug 2003
      • 19593

      #3
      Don't confuse yourself. The PR displayed in the toolbar is real PR data. The fact is that it is merely a representation of pagerank calculated several months prior.

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      • Harmon
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        • Mar 2004
        • 20012

        #4
        So if the toolbar PR has nothing to with the actual relevance of the listing, then it serves absolutely no purpose what so ever except entertainment. It means zilch. It's just a pretty green line. It doesn't matter if it's a year old, a month old, are an hour old.
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        • martin_simpletraffic
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2004
          • 216

          #5
          well is nice to know that we can all check and learn from each other...

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          • European Lee
            Confirmed User
            • Dec 2002
            • 7133

            #6
            Originally posted by Harmon
            So if the toolbar PR has nothing to with the actual relevance of the listing, then it serves absolutely no purpose what so ever except entertainment. It means zilch. It's just a pretty green line. It doesn't matter if it's a year old, a month old, are an hour old.
            Pretty much my train of thought too.

            The Toolbar has just become worthless to webmasters IMHO.

            Regards,

            Lee
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            • fris
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              • Aug 2002
              • 55682

              #7
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              • Fake Nick
                So Fucking Banned
                • Jul 2004
                • 7708

                #8
                if you think after reading that (no news to me ) PR is useless for the SE game and for webmasters , you have like no clue whatsoever and probably have not enough knowledge to make money with SE

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                • European Lee
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 7133

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fake Nick
                  if you think after reading that (no news to me ) PR is useless for the SE game and for webmasters , you have like no clue whatsoever and probably have not enough knowledge to make money with SE
                  Read the post again asshat.

                  I said the 'Google Toolbar' became useless not PR.

                  Regards,

                  Lee
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                  • DesignWise
                    Confirmed User
                    • May 2004
                    • 3575

                    #10
                    gee... thanks for the info... and i dont trust the autofill feature either..
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                    • Fake Nick
                      So Fucking Banned
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 7708

                      #11
                      Originally posted by European Lee
                      Read the post again asshat.

                      I said the 'Google Toolbar' became useless not PR.

                      Regards,

                      Lee


                      it isnt useless at all, you just have to know how to use it

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                      • Fake Nick
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 7708

                        #12
                        oh yeah , how you seo wizard going to use pr without the google toolbar ? ? ??


                        stop talking out your ass LEE you just said the pr and the toolbar are useless


                        no use for toolbar no use for pagerank

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                        • Harmon
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                          • Mar 2004
                          • 20012

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Fake Nick
                          oh yeah , how you seo wizard going to use pr without the google toolbar ? ? ??


                          stop talking out your ass LEE you just said the pr and the toolbar are useless


                          no use for toolbar no use for pagerank
                          Who's talking out of their ass?

                          "The PR that is displayed by the Google Toolbar is not the same PR that is used to rank the webpage results so there is no need to be concerned if your PR is displayed as zero."

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                          • Fake Nick
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 7708

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Harmon
                            Who's talking out of their ass?

                            "The PR that is displayed by the Google Toolbar is not the same PR that is used to rank the webpage results so there is no need to be concerned if your PR is displayed as zero."


                            whats your point ?


                            if you dont use google toolbar you cant use pagerank

                            its that simple,

                            also there are altered versions of the toolbar so you get the same info the algorythme uses to calculate your results

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                            • Cash
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                              • Feb 2002
                              • 20825

                              #15
                              That PR was real at the time of the update, now it may be not, but it will be displayed as a new (real) PR at the time of a new update...
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                              • Harmon
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                                • Mar 2004
                                • 20012

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Cash
                                That PR was real at the time of the update, now it may be not, but it will be displayed as a new (real) PR at the time of a new update...
                                Okay. Maybe I am misunderstanding this. If the Google Toolbar PR is outdated and has no value as far as search results go, doesn't that make the toolbar PR useless except to webmasters that "think" that high PR in the toolbar means their sites rock?
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                                • Fake Nick
                                  So Fucking Banned
                                  • Jul 2004
                                  • 7708

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Harmon
                                  Okay. Maybe I am misunderstanding this. If the Google Toolbar PR is outdated and has no value as far as search results go, doesn't that make the toolbar PR useless except to webmasters that "think" that high PR in the toolbar means their sites rock?

                                  it is outdated when there hasn't been an update for months if there has just been a new update it is not outdated


                                  so you basically get old info , but still usefull , and the pagerank HAS value concerning the search results when it just has been updated

                                  and again you have real time toolbars also , stop using the surfer version

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                                  • European Lee
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2002
                                    • 7133

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Harmon
                                    Okay. Maybe I am misunderstanding this. If the Google Toolbar PR is outdated and has no value as far as search results go, doesn't that make the toolbar PR useless except to webmasters that "think" that high PR in the toolbar means their sites rock?
                                    That is how i understand it.

                                    Unless you are using the Toolbar to search with also but then, you dont need the toolbar to search you can just go to google.com for that.

                                    Regards,

                                    Lee
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                                    • Trax
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                                      • Aug 2001
                                      • 14486

                                      #19
                                      this is very old news and has been known for a while now.
                                      that however does not mean the PR is useless.... less inaccurate then before -> sure
                                      but useless -> no way

                                      there are other reasons to have the toolbar installed as well

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