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Old 12-01-2004, 05:28 PM   #1
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Pot: illegal; Tobacco: legal. Why?

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Old 12-01-2004, 05:31 PM   #2
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well there are many things that are legal that cause more problems and more death then pot and no i am not a pot smoker i just feel that it should be legal and all the time and money spent on it should be used doing more productive things
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Tobacco = no paper products

Pot/hemp = paper products cheap and more cost-effective

Paper industry hates the latter - tobacco industry loves the former.

And I don't smoke either one, btw.
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Tobacco = no paper products

Pot/hemp = paper products cheap and more cost-effective

Paper industry hates the latter - tobacco industry loves the former.

And I don't smoke either one, btw.
Logic: Please dont use that around here.

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First off all the hemp used in rope etc will NOT get you high. Different kind of pot.

Originally pot was banned because blacks smoked it a lot and whites thought if blacks were high on pot they would rape white women.

Everyone that thinks legalized pot would be great are fooling themselves. First of all, growing your own would still be illegal. Can you make and sell your own cigs? No you have to buy them at a store. Yes you can roll your own cigs but you still have to buy the tobacco at a tobacco shop. Same thing with pot. Do you think the THC level in a manfactured joint will have the same level of THC as typical joint does not? Hell no. Do you think companies will stop, firing or not hiring, people that test posistive of pot?
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First off all the hemp used in rope etc will NOT get you high. Different kind of pot.

Originally pot was banned because blacks smoked it a lot and whites thought if blacks were high on pot they would rape white women.

Everyone that thinks legalized pot would be great are fooling themselves. First of all, growing your own would still be illegal. Can you make and sell your own cigs? No you have to buy them at a store. Yes you can roll your own cigs but you still have to buy the tobacco at a tobacco shop. Same thing with pot. Do you think the THC level in a manfactured joint will have the same level of THC as typical joint does not? Hell no. Do you think companies will stop, firing or not hiring, people that test posistive of pot?
I know I might get in a bunch of trouble for having a still on my property but could you show me where anyone ever got arrested for having a tobacco plant on their property?

As far as the level of THC in commercial products, I say Red Bull and Jolt Cola
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I know I might get in a bunch of trouble for having a still on my property but could you show me where anyone ever got arrested for having a tobacco plant on their property?

As far as the level of THC in commercial products, I say Red Bull and Jolt Cola
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First off all the hemp used in rope etc will NOT get you high. Different kind of pot.

Originally pot was banned because blacks smoked it a lot and whites thought if blacks were high on pot they would rape white women.

Everyone that thinks legalized pot would be great are fooling themselves. First of all, growing your own would still be illegal. Can you make and sell your own cigs? No you have to buy them at a store. Yes you can roll your own cigs but you still have to buy the tobacco at a tobacco shop. Same thing with pot. Do you think the THC level in a manfactured joint will have the same level of THC as typical joint does not? Hell no. Do you think companies will stop, firing or not hiring, people that test posistive of pot?
Your partially right..

But, manafactured thc is much more potent than natural thc..

I'll tell you the real reason ( besides the paper&pulp aspects )

What sort of industry makes the most amount of money in the world ? PHARMACEUTICAL

In the early 1900's marijuana made up more than 50% of pharmacy drugs..

What sort of pharmacy drugs can you grow in your backyard ( legal or not ) ? Not many

If you could grow 50% of your drugs in your backyard, who would lose 50% of their money ??

I can't grow aspirin and i cant grow tylenol , but i can sure as hell grow weed and take it in a safer and more effective way than any available drug out there.
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Because the Tabacco industry pays the Gov't a ton of moolah to keep the shit illegal. They don't like the competition and since anyone and grow pot, they wouldn't need Tabacco companies to provide it to them...

Same reason cars still use gas... Money talks and the Gov't listens.
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What about that Salvia stuff. A few people I know pick it up from the local head shop, and they get mighty high off it.
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What about that Salvia stuff. A few people I know pick it up from the local head shop, and they get mighty high off it.
They are playing with fire.. Its a hallucigen that isnt very usefull, and could very well rot your brain , with as little as 1 dose
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I know I might get in a bunch of trouble for having a still on my property but could you show me where anyone ever got arrested for having a tobacco plant on their property?


Every try to grow your own tabacco? Point is you couldn't SELL it. Hell I can't buy cigarettes in the next state and sell them here though I make a killing because of the cheap cigarette taxes in the next state. People DO in fact get jail time for smuggling cigarettes all the time. Legalized pot doesn't mean you can start growing weed in your garden.

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Jolt is pure sugar and caffine high. Used to be at least. NO Doze does the same job as speed and it's legal, too bad moron speed freaks are too stupid to realize that.
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NO Doze does the same job as speed and it's legal, too bad moron speed freaks are too stupid to realize that.
no it doesn't.

Most speed is made from no doze pills because of the active ingredient, but it takes about 50 packs to make a gram of meth. and by themselves are fairly weak
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no it doesn't.

Most speed is made from no doze pills because of the active ingredient, but it takes about 50 packs to make a gram of meth. and by themselves are fairly weak
Taking a box of No Doz at one time can kill you. Caffine is a drug too.
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I am not answering the question in the thread title, but if anyone cares I'll give you my opinion. Marijuana is natural and helps with many ailments, cancer, AIDS, etc. and is really helpful for bi-polar patients in controlled usage among other things such as being effective to help severe nausea.....but cigarettes are filled with poisons, nasty nasty!!! BUT, my pet peeve is alcohol. Why is this shit legal, it's the leading cause of organ failure and deaths on the highways and domestic violence, etc. I could go on and on. (can cause Diabetics to go into a coma) I think alcohol should be illegal for sure, it's the worst poison available to the public. Big mistake America! I'd much rather be around someone stoned than a drooling drunk, fuck that, besides, alcohol causes too many side effects and will kill that liver in no time.......drink up you fools....and for the smarter ones, let's smoke a fattie!

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They tried that once. The mob got involved, people still drank and the shit was closer to paint thinner than booze and people died from drinkng it in huge numbers. Alcohol prohibition was a HUGE failure.
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They tried that once. The mob got involved, people still drank and the shit was closer to paint thinner than booze and people died from drinkng it in huge numbers. Alcohol prohibition was a HUGE failure.
Yes, I know, I did very well in American history :P
But I can still know that the world would be better off without alcohol, think of the families torn apart by drunk drivers, it's sickening.

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Your partially right..

But, manafactured thc is much more potent than natural thc..

I'll tell you the real reason ( besides the paper&pulp aspects )

What sort of industry makes the most amount of money in the world ? PHARMACEUTICAL

In the early 1900's marijuana made up more than 50% of pharmacy drugs..

What sort of pharmacy drugs can you grow in your backyard ( legal or not ) ? Not many

If you could grow 50% of your drugs in your backyard, who would lose 50% of their money ??

I can't grow aspirin and i cant grow tylenol , but i can sure as hell grow weed and take it in a safer and more effective way than any available drug out there.
You most certainly can grow asprin. Get some bark off a willow tree and make tea with it. You now have a hot, steamy cup of asprin.
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You most certainly can grow asprin. Get some bark off a willow tree and make tea with it. You now have a hot, steamy cup of asprin.
Don't mind smokey. He clearly has no clue what he's talking about. He's displayed that beautifully and repeatedly in this thread.
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no it doesn't.

Most speed is made from no doze pills because of the active ingredient, but it takes about 50 packs to make a gram of meth. and by themselves are fairly weak
Sorry dude, you're wrong, No Doz is caffeine, meth can not be made from that. It must be made from pseudoephedrine, as found in sudafed, actifed or any cold medicine with pseudoephedrine. Most stores will not sell but two boxes at a time of this chemical, because methamphetamine cooks buy it up and add the other not so savory chemicals and make the dope. And it's become an epidemic in the United States, sad stuff.

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I think it is because Pot affects you mentally, but then again so does alcohol and that is legal. I don't know, everyone uses it anyway, who cares.
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Sorry dude, you're wrong, No Doz is caffeine, meth can not be made from that. It must be made from pseudoephedrine, as found in sudafed, actifed or any cold medicine with pseudoephedrine. Most stores will not sell but two boxes at a time of this chemical, because methamphetamine cooks buy it up and add the other not so savory chemicals and make the dope. And it's become an epidemic in the United States, sad stuff.

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Before that, it was ephedrine, but that is all but illegal now.

It's an epidemic because it's illegal. I have little doubt that if meth was legal, meth labs would disappear and meth would become something kind of like coffee, cheap, plentiful and generally moderately used. Of course, this is if we didn't carry on the taboo as well.
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Yah, they were pretty messed up for about 15 minutes off a bowl. Talkin all kinds of nonsense, and nonstop laughter.
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Before that, it was ephedrine, but that is all but illegal now.

It's an epidemic because it's illegal. I have little doubt that if meth was legal, meth labs would disappear and meth would become something kind of like coffee, cheap, plentiful and generally moderately used. Of course, this is if we didn't carry on the taboo as well.
OMG, I wouldn't wish my worst enemy to use meth. Do you have any idea what chemicals go into that shit? And people are shooting chemicals straight to their heart that could make it nearly explode in a matter of minutes. I have seen lives crumble and people become "existent", meaning that's all they do is exist, no real purpose in life anymore over meth use, in a very short time, especially bangers. I stay away from it, although it's everywhere....so sad....it's gotten a hold of some of my former friends, sad shit!! Legal or not, fuck that, that shit destroys lives. It's so sad that there are addicts that just can't function without the shit.....it's a demon.

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Can you point to one honest study that says that?
Doubtful, marijuana actually cleanses your lungs....if you're a smoker and smoke pot too, the pot cleans your lungs out and you cough up all the residue in your lungs from the cigarettes. For those smokers of both, would you agree? I just don't find anything wrong with weed unless you're a lazy fuck and won't get off the couch. Enough rambling, but I'm certain about the mary jane cleansing our lungs.

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