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Old 11-30-2004, 06:11 PM   #1
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how bad are we losing sales and $$ to scumware and spyware?

Ponder...
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:17 PM   #2
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it mainly affects large mainstream networks like cj.
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Old 11-30-2004, 07:04 PM   #3
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it mainly affects large mainstream networks like cj.
What about mediatickets and the stories of refcodes that are messed around with?
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Old 11-30-2004, 07:05 PM   #4
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bad - people should use fucking firefox, its so much better and faster that IE.
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Old 11-30-2004, 07:22 PM   #5
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I'm sure it effects us all since like almost everyone using the internet gets infected with spyware/adware crap, some people know how to remove it but the majority doesn't. And this 'scumware' is getting more nasty every day...
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Old 11-30-2004, 07:29 PM   #6
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bad - people should use fucking firefox, its so much better and faster that IE.
its not better, and its definately not faster

but it does have tabbed browsing, and spyware doesnt really get to it
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Old 11-30-2004, 07:41 PM   #7
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It would be interesting to see how much money affiliates have lost to parasites. I'm sure the software authors know!
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Old 11-30-2004, 08:37 PM   #8
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i think it has taken a 50% bite into my bottom line in the last 1-2 years.
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Old 12-01-2004, 01:17 PM   #9
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Old 12-01-2004, 01:43 PM   #10
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i think spyware is worst than adware
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Old 12-01-2004, 01:49 PM   #11
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adware and spyware should have worse penalties then fucking spam or anything else. That shit fucks up your computer more t hen anything
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Old 12-01-2004, 01:54 PM   #12
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if it makes u 100k a month, would u still complain about it?

u guys talk the talk, but im sure once the money is rolling in, u dont care.
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Old 12-01-2004, 02:05 PM   #13
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if it makes u 100k a month, would u still complain about it?

u guys talk the talk, but im sure once the money is rolling in, u dont care.
Not true. Many people could very simply create legal adware-supported software that makes them loads of money by pissing people off, but most don't.

As for the effect it has on the biz... I know quite a few people who don't trust the internet and won't use their creditcards online mainly because of scumware and such.
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Old 12-01-2004, 02:07 PM   #14
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I make some of the money back from it. I remove it at the ISP/Consulting IT job I work part time for.
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Old 12-01-2004, 02:08 PM   #15
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So then we agree that this should take a higher priority over chasing the spammers??

I think that it should.

Then get the spammers.
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Old 12-01-2004, 04:14 PM   #16
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i think most of you people... not all... but most... are not fully understanding what SCUMWARE is... and what it does...
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Old 12-01-2004, 04:46 PM   #17
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I am against it no matter how much money it could get me.

Some people seem to get in to this biz because they think its where the rest of their brothern low lifes hang out, Like they get to be some big ass gangster.

But other people are here because they want to make some cash while expressing that they think that sex is natrual and that pornography is a 1st amendment right !

Like a dumb ass I seen a day or so ago thinking every one steals other peoples web pages. Not all of us just role right over on what we believe if there is cash waved at us.

kill the scum, spy and addware first. Thin the spam
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Old 12-01-2004, 06:08 PM   #18
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the scammers have had a major negative effect on certain marketing models, notably:

1. tgp marketing has been rendered mostly ineffective

2. newsgroup postings have lost 50% of their effectiveness due to virus and trojan download risk which makes many people resistant to risk downloading jpg and mpg files.

3. popups and popunders have lost effectiveness due to anti-popup measures largely instituted because of aggressive smut marketing.

4. major search engines are now not indexing pages with redirects, excessive popups, dialers, etc.

the bottom line for the surfer is that it isn't so much fun anymore to chase porn on the internet.

and that does effect the bottom line.
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Old 12-01-2004, 06:24 PM   #19
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if it makes u 100k a month, would u still complain about it?

u guys talk the talk, but im sure once the money is rolling in, u dont care.
If I get thousands of pounds of drug to the streets and fucking up your city with thieves, murderers, crackwhores etc. and I make millions a month, should I complain?
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