200 scamming bitches

I guess you never can tell whats behind the name now can you..

I never said 12clicks was responsible, the threat was an OPEN-ENDED one..

Meaning , SCREW ME AND ILL SCREW YOU..

The difference is i'm much scarier off-net :)

Thats why man invented guns :winkwink:

...regardless, I'm sure we all want to know if you find anything.

Oh, the irony...

Thought I would post an update. Here's an excerpt of the "stock" response provided by Casalemedia, a major advertiser on 12Clicks Standard Internet, when questioned about adware:

"Let me assure you that Casale Media does not engage in putting AD-Ware on anyone's machines however, we do buy advertising space for clients from companies which use this ad delivery format".

And here's the real irony, in their explanation of where the adware type pop-ups could be originating:

"If you are getting multiple advertisements, you probably have several pieces of adware on your computer. This could occur by downloading applications such as Kazaa, Morpheus, Hotbar, Smiley Central, iMesh, and many others".

Now, why is this significant you ask? Another major product delivered by Standard Internet is Free Screensavers, offered by Funwebproducts. Take a close look at their Privacy Policy, and not only will you find the Smiley Central product cited by Casalemedia as a MAJOR source of adware, you will find an extensive list of other goodies..all which have been connected to adware by McAfee, Norton, and dozens of other reputable Security companies.

Here's a small list of products included with the Freescreensaver download. I left out a whole bunch, in order to make this post readable.

"UPON INSTALLATION THE FOLLOWING PRODUCTS WILL BE ADDED TO YOUR BROWSER:

SEARCH BOX will: ...

SMILEYCENTRAL ...

CURSOR MANIA ...

FUN BUDDY ICONS ...

Need I say more?

disgusting:feels-hot

At least everyone knows what a scumbag 12dicks is now.

ahahahaha, so now you're changing your tune to calling it "adware" which happends to be 100% legal.
lets see how many trolls are duped besides little man rich.:1orglaugh

sig placement.

soory I'm late. I will get the front page next time

lol, i dont have a clue who 12clicks is, but he seems like an arrogant asshole.

Ev

i didn't think i'd ever say this, but I'm 100% behond smokey on this one.

12 clicks is my Hero !!!

Im not finished investigating this , but from what i can tell 12clicks is a broker who deals in this type of traffic. Perhaps he needs to investigate his own affiliates/partners more carefully.When webmasters are getting ripped off, theres a lot bigger things to worry about than the law.

well son, looks like you can't tell very much.
Our ads come from reputable companies not script kiddies using a porn affiliate code to scam signups. (you gotta get out of adult. I don't know of ANY mainstream advertisers who would waste their traffic trying to get signups to a porn site):1orglaugh

I am an arrogant asshole.
so far, so good.

:thumbsup

I know where your ads come from , and i could care less about reputable companies.

My main business is not adult.

"Son" may be the wrong term to use as i'm many years your elder..

As i said i haven't finished looking into this. I'm not bashing you, just looking out for OUR best interests.

You say you dont know any mainstream advertisers who waste there time with porn ? well what about dating sites ??

My initial post was only to inform others that if you or anyone else rips off me or any of my associates , your anal cavities will become open season for my daytons to do some interior decorating. PERIOD.

No, your initial post was to explain how you were "investigating" me.

what this asshat accused me of is illegal. I've made far too much money in this biz to risk it trying to make an adult signup here and their. (or a dating signup here or there)
The mental leaps some people make are very telling about their position in this biz.
someone could come to me with a deal for 100 signups a day using spyware and I'd laugh in their face.
spyware is illegal and 100signups a day is chump change. but you keep investigating.:1orglaugh

I'd really like to see that.

i agree. scam artists often try word games to justify theft, but in the end theft is theft and theives deserve what's comming to them.

By now everyone should be aware of that cheeter 12shits and his programs... He has been ripping of webmasters for a long time..

and canadian half whits whining about a worthless trademark deserve what's coming to them too.
ridicule.:1orglaugh

be sure to come back with your hat in your hand when smokey doesn't find anything.:1orglaugh

Arent you selling dating sites on your first page..

http://www.clickthrunet.net/

And the turbofind service ...

http://search.turbofind.com/cgi-bin/...ult&Qualifier=

Has pages straight to nastydollars milfhunter site..

So if one of your "sellers" hijacks the browser to popup a site when someone visits milfhunter.com and pops your turbofind service listing their nastydollars refid , how is that legit..

:eek7 :eek7

it wouldn't be legit.
thats why we don't do it.
anything else?
you're spending a lot of time on "ifs"

you keep investigating, I'll see you in the morning. its late here.

I'm working go to sleep.

I think you have the wrong impression, im just looking into it as i would anyone whom may be stealing my traffic.

Im not accusing you of anything other than running a fine operation at the moment..

I already did find all we need to know. Read the post..read the evidence...

Like I've said before, me coming in here and making blanket statements without fact would be pointless. That is why I have provided the links for anyone to test for themselves and then gone the next step with my correspondance to casalemedia and further investigation....

And, like I also said before...
Call it what you want....
You are right..the legality changes immensely whether it is adware or spyware....in fact, all throughout this post I have stayed with your term of "ad-supported" software.
But none of this changes in the least the facts that I have stated above....

Sleazydream said it best:
"i agree. scam artists often try word games to justify theft, but in the end theft is theft and theives deserve what's comming to them"

What amazes me is how people feel it their right to criticize how another man makes a living. I have more respect for someone holding a shotgun to a clerk's head than I do for someone who sits on their ass collecting welfare. In either situation I have no room to judge, as it is none of my business.

We are on a porn BBS, most of us here sell porn, and have done other things in our lives to turn a dollar. Some would call us the complete shit bags of the earth.

It is all perspective, my friends, and other people's business.

interesting analogy

and if that clerk were your wife, daughter, son, father...?

http://www.12clicks.com/

:eek2

Adware/spyware ... whatever. There is a legitimate market, but do you honestly think most surfers AGREE to view constant ads on their computer in exchange for the free software? You must be delusional,

Almost every webmaster i've met promoting adware/spyware is always looking for a new way to auto install or a way to fuck over the surfer.

Invading people's PC's with adware or spyware is immoral, and it gives a bad name to the entire industry.

Are you on crack? Wait until it's your business, and you have a shotgun pointed at your head. Maybe no one will have room to judge then either. Maybe we should just sit back while CP fucks take over the industry? Or start promoting trojan horses?.... get a clue.

I think this has been the general consensus of most everyone on every board for about the past 4 years..

ahahahahaha

What a dildo.

next time you see ron at a show, be sure to go up to him and tell him that

ok

You're assuming Rich would ever go to a show :winkwink:

No changes evident in the Standard Internet / 12Clicks "ad supported" software issue, so looks like it is time to resurrect this thread.

And I can guarantee an "all fluff, no substance" reply from Ron will be forthcoming. Like I've said before Ron...turn off your "Oh my god, someone posted my name in a thread" detector and get out of the house.

I missed you in Vegas, surfer. :1orglaugh

Thanks for dinner, you and Mojo are always excellent company. :)

Going on the old "There's no such thing as bad publicity" adage, are we? Ron, this thread offers not just claims, but the ways and means for anyone to examine and prove the claims made against your company.

You continue to miss one important point. As a person, your actions mean nothing. As a company, we're talking a whole different ball game. I have but one agenda...to help make it harder for companies like yours to continue to erode the online advertising industry.

Ron, keep the personal attacks coming. You will fool a few...but the more astute and intelligent of the crowd will recognize the attacks for what they are..and then move on to examine the real issues that are addressed in this thread.

Thanks for keeping this thread active!

You should post this on JBM. Doesn't suprise me.

yikes dude that is rough

you should take your evidence to the authorities.

oh, thats right, they already told you to get lost. :1orglaugh

Trolls aren't tolerated on JBM.

don't you have hookers to get the girl friend treatment from? :1orglaugh

Thanks for the tip. Just signed up to popuptraffic.com. Looks like a nice program. :thumbsup

49th parallel, when will you realize that nobody gives a rats ass about your whining except YOU...

I'm STILL waiting on the FBI to come busting down my door because I took pictures of a girl that said she had hiv....Where are they?

Idiot.

A glowing recommendation from a fella with a Penis enhancement banner in his signature. Yep, doesn't make me question your business ethics at all. (insert sarcasm here). Do your customers a favor. Send them a sugar pill. At least they will get to taste something sweet while you screw them out of their money.

And thanks once again Ron for keeping this thread active.

It's pretty funny and obvious you have a problem reading and comprehending things. We don't sell penis PILLS.