Alexander The Great: A foray into the sordid history of homosexuality?

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Seriously, among the most homosexual flicks I've seen since 'Chasing Amy' and 'HardCore Logo' Ancient Greece = Ambiguous sexuality? Let the Greeks sue! Bunch of nancyboys....

[Theo]

We'll sue the whole world. Alexander was in to beast, not men

[jigg]

please the Greeks were into fucking their family, not to mention all the queer stories - Lesbos, Illiad and Odissey and so on

[Reality Dude]

You guys always talking a bout Gay stuff or what?

[pornguy]

Ever read some of the history behind ( no pun intneded ) the Greeks, and then sex stories??

[Theo]

It's a tradition in Greece to fuck family members. It brings good luck.

[LadyMischief]

In ancient Greek times it was common and acceptable, even expected for man to have sex with other men. WTf is their problem?

[Odin88]

Originally posted by LadyMischief
In ancient Greek times it was common and acceptable, even expected for man to have sex with other men. WTf is their problem?

That is interesting. Because I have seen many claims that an increasing acceptance of homoesexuality in the mainstream will not increase the amount of homosexual people. I think that statement is totally incorrect, and whilst I obviously don't care what gay people do together, I think it is a reasonable arguement for homosexuality to not be heavily promoted in front of children, etc. You only have to look at prison to see that sexuality isn't totally predefined at birth, it is something that can and will develop depending on the circumstances surronding any person at present, or during their upbringing.

[Centurion]

Originally posted by Odin88
That is interesting. Because I have seen many claims that an increasing acceptance of homoesexuality in the mainstream will not increase the amount of homosexual people. I think that statement is totally incorrect, and whilst I obviously don't care what gay people do together, I think it is a reasonable arguement for homosexuality to not be heavily promoted in front of children, etc. You only have to look at prison to see that sexuality isn't totally predefined at birth, it is something that can and will develop depending on the circumstances surronding any person at present, or during their upbringing.

You're ONE argument that sex is not always something people are born with is sex in prison??

[Elli]

Originally posted by Odin88
...whilst I obviously don't care what gay people do together, I think it is a reasonable arguement for homosexuality to not be heavily promoted in front of children....

Interesting. So, if it's not "wrong", why keep it from children? If children are going to make their own choices as they grow up, why not give them equal exposure to the options available? There's no huge need for a population increase, so why not let the chips fall where they may? If, after being exposed to "heavy promotion" of alternate lifestyles, the children decide to be hetero, then maybe at least they will be a little more tolerant than the previous generation.

[Odin88]

Originally posted by Centurion
You're ONE argument that sex is not always something people are born with is sex in prison??

My one arguement? I believe my main arguement was based on Greek society, in which homosexuality became more accepted and thus was more abundant. Prison was only added as a secondary contemporary example.

[Odin88]

Originally posted by Elli
Interesting. So, if it's not "wrong", why keep it from children? If children are going to make their own choices as they grow up, why not give them equal exposure to the options available? There's no huge need for a population increase, so why not let the chips fall where they may? If, after being exposed to "heavy promotion" of alternate lifestyles, the children decide to be hetero, then maybe at least they will be a little more tolerant than the previous generation.

Actually, Western societies do have a very large need for population stabilisation. Birth rates are below replacement level, and they only rectify this situation by importing millions of immigrants that are destined to take over the host nations within a number of decades (i.e. in Holland, etc). A much healthier solution for society as a whole is to promote an environment which promotes nuclear families, and reproduction equivelent to the nations needs.

[BuckLover]

Once again! another movie that blew! and in so many ways!

[Elli]

Originally posted by Odin88
Actually, Western societies do have a very large need for population stabilisation. Birth rates are below replacement level, and they only rectify this situation by importing millions of immigrants that are destined to take over the host nations within a number of decades (i.e. in Holland, etc). A much healthier solution for society as a whole is to promote an environment which promotes nuclear families, and reproduction equivelent to the nations needs.

You got me there. I happen to agree with you. BUT I still hold that raising the children to be tolerant of other lifestyles through exposure to them is the way to go. I guess I'm not quite as communist as I once thought.

[Nanda]

Originally posted by pornguy
Ever read some of the history behind ( no pun intneded ) the Greeks, and then sex stories??

Yeah...it's a huge part of their history, completly accpeted and encouraged....When you learn about the Spartans....they were assigned a buddy as children who would be their lover for life, when they were old enough to mate they would find a woman, get her pregnant and go back to their lover. Children in that era were brought up to be warriors, to defend their land.

[Wiggles]

Hardcore Logo kicked ass! It was such a good movie, the dude from The Headstones did an amazing acting job.

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Alexander The Great was homosexual, historical fact

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Originally posted by Wiggles
Hardcore Logo kicked ass! It was such a good movie, the dude from The Headstones did an amazing acting job.

We watched that flick in a film class at Mac U and took it apart. First 'queer' flick I ever noticed. Yeah, headstones dude was wicked - pisses on the record execs....heh.....

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Originally posted by banthis
Alexander The Great was homosexual, historical fact

So are Seals......

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Who really cares if he was gay or not (which he was) his legacy should be about what he accomplished...

[CoolE]

Originally posted by banthis
Alexander The Great was homosexual, historical fact

Technically, he was BISEXUAL. See sig.

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Originally posted by CoolE
Technically, he was BISEXUAL. See sig.

LOL....Greedy prick.....

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[Drake]

Originally posted by Odin88
Actually, Western societies do have a very large need for population stabilisation. Birth rates are below replacement level, and they only rectify this situation by importing millions of immigrants that are destined to take over the host nations within a number of decades (i.e. in Holland, etc). A much healthier solution for society as a whole is to promote an environment which promotes nuclear families, and reproduction equivelent to the nations needs.

The only way societies will be designed to do those things is if emphasis wasn't on money and self. That's just the way it is now and it's not going to change for some time.

People don't have many kids because they want to further their career or work two jobs or don't have time or money to raise kids. That's not going to change anytime soon. Immigration destined to 'take over' the host country is the byproduct of our lifestyle and economy.

[Drake]

Originally posted by LadyMischief
In ancient Greek times it was common and acceptable, even expected for man to have sex with other men. WTf is their problem?

Is this where doing 'Greek sex' referring to anal sex came from?

[spamofon]

all navy seals like it in the ass

[Centurion]

Originally posted by Odin88
My one arguement? I believe my main arguement was based on Greek society, in which homosexuality became more accepted and thus was more abundant. Prison was only added as a secondary contemporary example.

Imagine for a moment if homosexuality was more tolderated in the Unted States, you were not punished, shunned or treated like a second class citizen. There would probably be a hundred times more open homosexuals in this country, just as there was in Greece.

[Paul Markham]

Let's get this right.

Firstly it was not Homosexuality that was accepted in Greece, it was that you could have sex with men and bnot be labled as queer. They also had sex with prostitutes and that was acceptable,

But all men were expected to marry, have children and maintain a home.

What happened was they socialised in all male clubs where young boys 14-15 were assigned to an older man as a tutor, this relationship could turn sexual.

As for the army, they thought if you were standing next to your lover in battle you would fight a bit harder and running off to the local village every night to hump the hookers was bad for discipline.

Men being homosexual as we know it was not as common as it is now. Very few men had exclusive relationships with only men.

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just a head's up in case u're thinking of seeing this movie

[pxxx]

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
It's a tradition in Greece to fuck family members. It brings good luck.

[Translation]Its a tradition in Greece to be fucking nasty.[/Translation]

[UnclePecker]

[Manny The Freak]

I have not seen the movie, but I heard of it. The movie, done by I believe, Oliver Stone., is an untrue depiction of a great leader. The blasphemy is all centered around the recent story involving the Republic of Macedonia. Macedonia is a greek state, however according to certain diplomatic experts, Fyrom, a former Yugoslav republic, is now recognized as Republic of Macedonia. Oliver Stone supports the renaming of Fyrom.

The film`s aim is to ridicule greek people everywhere and to add fuel to a fire that has been burning ever since 1993 with hostile neighbors to my beloved land.

A little history back in 1993 Greece came very close to being involved in the baltic war, I know I was serving at the time and I can tell you we were on our guards for anything that may have happened. By accepting the renaming of Fyrom to Republic of Macedonia we accept defeat it is like opening the boarders for invasion.

This film is untrue, Alexander was a great and fearless leader, Macedonia is and will remain a greek.

[who]

Originally posted by Manny The Freak
Fyrom, a former Yugoslav republic, is now recognized as Republic of Macedonia.

Can I just point out that FYROM stands for Former Yogoslav Republic of Macedonia?


So you're a n00b. Simple.

[ytcracker]

my big fat greek general

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