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Old 11-28-2004, 12:49 AM   #1
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The hardest niche in this industry?

What do you feel is the hargest product to sell in this industry ?

Im starting to think it is damn Teen sites ... surfers are getting to f'in smart
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:51 AM   #2
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What do you feel is the hargest product to sell in this industry ?

Im starting to think it is damn Teen sites ... surfers are getting to f'in smart
Mature, WMs think 25 yo's will fit the bill.
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:52 AM   #3
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i would say teen is the easiest. there is more traffic than any other niche.
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:53 AM   #4
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:53 AM   #5
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:53 AM   #6
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i would say teen is the easiest. there is more traffic than any other niche.
damn i must be doin something wrong

I am able to sell extreme hardcore and rare niches but cant sell a damn teen site
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:54 AM   #7
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:55 AM   #8
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The hardest niche to sell is the one you're not into.
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:59 AM   #9
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for me is big tits

with the exception of big naturals i never did that wll with this niche
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Old 11-28-2004, 01:02 AM   #10
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My Greek Anal site is doing really well. You should give it a try Soul_Rebel.
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Old 11-28-2004, 01:02 AM   #11
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Asian chicks. I don't know if it's caused by more Asian surfers or what, but it converts like crap.
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Old 11-28-2004, 01:07 AM   #12
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My Greek Anal site is doing really well. You should give it a try Soul_Rebel.
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give a try to www.mashaworld.com in the meantime ;-)
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Russian teen huh? I think I will give that a run.
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Old 11-28-2004, 01:26 AM   #16
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The hardest niche to sell is the one you're not into.
VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, VERY, TRUE.

You have to understand what motivates a buyer to sell him something. The problem with too many here is they see it as a numbers game, something you can program success into. Well reality check. People do not jerk off to numbers, a GOOD deal, programs or anything else.

Now look at the original question and you see the problem.

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Im starting to think it is damn Teen sites ... surfers are getting to f'in smart
If be smart you mean they are no longer falling for what you deliver then you are right.

Teens should be the easiest to get traffic, just so many looking for it, but also a well supplied market with lots of happy customers. So you have to compete.

Where do you get your content?
Does most of the content fall within the niche you are selling?
Do the teens look 16-18 or 22-25?
Is the content bought on price or converting ability?
Is your design the same as everyone elses?
What is the "Twist" to your site?
Do you target your prospective members or just throw it up in the hope some will stick?

This is obviously from personal recollections. We get people coming to our main store Paul Markham Content Store to buy on a regular basis. They buy our sets and slam us for brokering other peoples content in the main store. They pay full price or take the deals we offer, they spend thousands over the year, some are site owners others webmasters.

Then we have the guy who wants 5 sets and needs a deal, usually around $50 for the lot. He does not want to buy from Bargain Basement Content Store he just wants to get a good deal. Some times he's just trying it on, but most times he's serious and moves on to the next content provider who has to give this deal to sell.

And there you have the crux of it, we do not have to sell on price from Paul Markham Content Store because it's good, converts and is not saturated over the Internet. Now look around at all the content providers who disappeared this year, the guys who will shoot a custom set and video for $300 or the people living from hand to mouth shooting out of their living room.

And it's not just us who did this, there are many other content providers selling a good product at a fair price putting out of business the lame arses.

Now equate this to what you are doing or promoting.
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Old 11-28-2004, 01:27 AM   #17
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Im starting to think it is damn Teen sites ... surfers are getting to f'in smart
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Old 11-28-2004, 01:38 AM   #18
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Well not always true in my case because i can sell gay sites easily

A niche i never tried is midget, mainly because i find midgets scary

I have posted in the past stats for teen sites as low as 1:4 with more than few sales and no trial. The tour/content is the no1 factor and since teens is a common niche paysite owners don't pay much attention. If the teens don't look like teens or even worse they look like MILFs as Paul said don't expect much things. Same goes to mature niche, a 35y.old woman won't sell as mature no matter how hard you'll try that.
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Old 11-28-2004, 02:09 AM   #19
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Well not always true in my case because i can sell gay sites easily
I can think of one reason for this.

My rules are general, I'm not into teens, my things Penthouse style, but I know what the guy who is into it wants.

One of the main reasons for people not converting is their approach to it, they are just not doing anything different enough to the guy next to them.
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Old 11-28-2004, 02:19 AM   #20
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Asian chicks. I don't know if it's caused by more Asian surfers or what, but it converts like crap.
totally agree...a lot of traffic, usually shitty conversions...maybe it's just ccbill, who knows...eh
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I had a site with Gay Asian guys, totally flopped... either I didn't get it or the market's too flooded.

The kinks work better for me than any of the mainstream adult areas (teen, lesbian, gay, etc.)
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Old 11-28-2004, 04:25 PM   #22
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Old 11-28-2004, 05:53 PM   #23
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I had a site with Gay Asian guys, totally flopped... either I didn't get it or the market's too flooded.

The kinks work better for me than any of the mainstream adult areas (teen, lesbian, gay, etc.)
Gay Asian and Gay blacks are very lucrative niches intrinsically. Totally depends where you tried to market it. There's several huge pools of traffic that come to mind for that niche.
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