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SleazyDream · 11-26-2004, 01:28 AM

we came from a system with a king where we didn't matter

moved to individuality.

as a species - can we actually grow with this individual is everything attitude we have now?

don't the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the needs of the one.

would a superior race from space embrace the same individualistic mindframe? I doubt it

so the queston is - and this is a doozy - when will it end and we move on into some other system that suits the human race as a whole more? in our lifetimes - in our childrens - their childrens - their childrens - when?

WarChild · 11-26-2004, 01:42 AM

Let's hope it happens soon .. I soooo want to fly around in a Borg cube and assimiliate people.

Jay_StandAhead · 11-26-2004, 01:42 AM

It's going to happen soon - but I don't think those in power will use it for the "good" of humanity.

xclusive · 11-26-2004, 01:44 AM

We are having our liberties taken away every day more and more and they don't have our best interest at heart now what makes you think that they will then?...

OzMan · 11-26-2004, 01:44 AM

you need to get laid... too many philosophic posts lately

SleazyDream · 11-26-2004, 01:45 AM

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Originally posted by OzMan
you need to get laid... too many philosophic posts lately

lol - i actually got laid about 4 hours ago.... waiting for the sheets to dry now.... fucking waterworks everywhere... good thing she went home.

Paul Welles · 11-26-2004, 01:45 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
we came from a system with a king where we didn't matter

moved to individuality.

as a species - can we actually grow with this individual is everything attitude we have now?

don't the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the needs of the one.

would a superior race from space embrace the same individualistic mindframe? I doubt it

so the queston is - and this is a doozy - when will it end and we move on into some other system that suits the human race as a whole more? in our lifetimes - in our childrens - their childrens - their childrens - when?

Can somebody translate this into fuckin English please?

Nicky · 11-26-2004, 01:45 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
we came from a system with a king where we didn't matter

moved to individuality.

as a species - can we actually grow with this individual is everything attitude we have now?

don't the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the needs of the one.

would a superior race from space embrace the same individualistic mindframe? I doubt it

so the queston is - and this is a doozy - when will it end and we move on into some other system that suits the human race as a whole more? in our lifetimes - in our childrens - their childrens - their childrens - when?

Good question, I cant answer it though.....

SleazyDream · 11-26-2004, 01:45 AM

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Originally posted by Paul Welles
Can somebody translate this into fuckin English please?

simple = you're an idiot

Repetitive Monkey · 11-26-2004, 01:45 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
we came from a system with a king where we didn't matter

moved to individuality.

as a species - can we actually grow with this individual is everything attitude we have now?

don't the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the needs of the one.

would a superior race from space embrace the same individualistic mindframe? I doubt it

so the queston is - and this is a doozy - when will it end and we move on into some other system that suits the human race as a whole more? in our lifetimes - in our childrens - their childrens - their childrens - when?

Darwinian principles are no good in your book? What you are talking about is communism, by the way. And we all see how well that played out in the countries that tried it, didn't we?

$5 submissions · 11-26-2004, 01:46 AM

Good question, SD. But the whole 'individualistic' culture you refer to is more prevalent in some cultures than others. Here in Asia, privacy is defined less as individual privacy but as family privacy or village privacy. Hence, its very important to 'save face.'

Moreover, the whole current European/Western idea of individualism is driven by economics and technology. Prior to the automobile and mass production, people were relatively stuck in towns where they could grow social roots. The whole town was your extended family. With the advent of automobiles, the nuclear family became the standard instead of the extended family.

There may be a backlash and the pendulum may swing backwards but it would have to be pushed by economic and technological forces.

SleazyDream · 11-26-2004, 01:46 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
Darwinian principles are no good in your book? What you are talking about is communism, by the way. And we all see how well that played out in the countries that tried it, didn't we?

something released before it's time is doomed.

you have to crawl before you walk and then fly

Paul Welles · 11-26-2004, 01:51 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
simple = you're an idiot

You know that shows how stupid you actually are. The smartest people will always form questions simply and thoughtfully for a child to understand. You are talking about evolution and then talking about space people...go talk to Art Bell buddy! He has a board for space aliens

SleazyDream · 11-26-2004, 01:52 AM

there is NOTHING, i mean NOTHING sweeter than calling someone an idiot on GFY and having them DEBATE the point.

Repetitive Monkey · 11-26-2004, 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
something released before it's time is doomed.

you have to crawl before you walk and then fly

Communism is unfair for the worthy, and it directly opposes nature and even life itself on its most fundamental principle (survival of the fittest), so keep hanging on to that notion if you want to continue to make yourself look like an imbecile.

SleazyDream · 11-26-2004, 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
Communism is unfair for the worthy, and it directly opposes nature and even life itself on its most fundamental principle (survival of the fittest), so keep hanging on to that notion if you want to continue to make yourself look like an imbecile.

ahh but that's the individual mentality again.

assume we're attacked by alians - would our chances be better thinking individually or together?

Paul Welles · 11-26-2004, 01:57 AM

You know what the best is??
A motorhome cause no matter where you are you can take a shit!

Jay_StandAhead · 11-26-2004, 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
Communism is unfair for the worthy, and it directly opposes nature and even life itself on its most fundamental principle (survival of the fittest), so keep hanging on to that notion if you want to continue to make yourself look like an imbecile.

communism is not so different from capitalism when you look at who's really running the show and getting rich. Bottom line is NONE of the two systems have the greater good of the people in mind.

I like the analogy that Sleazy made about alien people, and what system they'd use. I bet they'd be a lot smarter than us about it.

$5 submissions · 11-26-2004, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
Communism is unfair for the worthy, and it directly opposes nature and even life itself on its most fundamental principle (survival of the fittest), so keep hanging on to that notion if you want to continue to make yourself look like an imbecile.

The IRONY about Communism is that it was inspired by Darwin's "survival of the fittest" concept. Marx actually wanted to dedicate the 1848 Communist Manifesto to Charles Darwin. Marx was saying Feudalism was less fit than Capitalism so it got superseded. Then he imagined Capitalism being less fit than Communism.

Repetitive Monkey · 11-26-2004, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
ahh but that's the individual mentality again.

assume we're attacked by alians - would our chances be better thinking individually or together?

That doesn't make sense. We don't need communism in our lifestyles or economic system to cooperate against a common enemy. In fact, cooperating with your peers against your enemy is a form of individualism since doing so best secures your own interests.

SleazyDream · 11-26-2004, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
That doesn't make sense. We don't need communism in our lifestyles or economic system to cooperate against a common enemy. In fact, cooperating with your peers against your enemy is a form of individualism since doing so best secures your own interests.

you seem to have a very limited mind - when did i ever say communism?

Repetitive Monkey · 11-26-2004, 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions
The IRONY about Communism is that it was inspired by Darwin's "survival of the fittest" concept. Marx actually wanted to dedicate the 1848 Communist Manifesto to Charles Darwin. Marx was saying Feudalism was less fit than Capitalism so it got superseded. Then he imagined Capitalism being less fit than Communism.

Yes, it was so gloriously fit that countries to this day still struggle to recover from it, like it was a disease.

Repetitive Monkey · 11-26-2004, 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
you seem to have a very limited mind - when did i ever say communism?

You didn't. You spoke of dystopian idealisms that I found to be not much different from communism.

SleazyDream · 11-26-2004, 02:05 AM

lets describe this differently .

i'm all for capitalism in our current society.

I'm NOT for inherentance.

how can i compete with some rich brat that has millions his daddy gave him? i'm all for things like health care and good public education and good roads - but i end it THERE. government stay the fuck out of my business and life.

our society will be in trouble if those with inhertance money grow richer. if you change the rich every generation with the brightest you don't have a problem with our current system - if the rick just get their kids to take over - we have a problem and the system will eventually break down

Jay_StandAhead · 11-26-2004, 02:05 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
- when did i ever say communism?

exactly what I wanted to reply, hehe

Paul Welles · 11-26-2004, 02:05 AM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream
you seem to have a very limited mind - when did i ever say communism?

yeah where did comminism come up? he was talkin about the future...we have tried everything so what is next? kinda like porno everything has been ...or so they say but what will they do next...what is the next frontier...

SleazyDream · 11-26-2004, 02:06 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
You didn't. You spoke of dystopian idealisms that I found to be not much different from communism.

no - you arn't. you arn't getting it - it's 747ing you

Jace · 11-26-2004, 02:07 AM

i think by the year 2015 we will have had the next world war, at which time most of the US as we know it will have been wiped out, only to leave us with small tribes across the land we live in now..

we will have to rebuild and a new way of living will emerge

Repetitive Monkey · 11-26-2004, 02:11 AM

Alright, if you want to discuss possibilities for a better civilization then I will gladly throw my two cents in.

End multiculturalism and imperialism, the result of which will be an almost total end of major conflict. Restrict government spending on any kind of religious or special interest groups. People who wish to crusade for a particular way of thinking better fund it themselves. Attempt to introduce a more democratic form of democracy in the most enlightened countries and see if it can be applied to more countries with time. I am talking about a form of democracy where the people vote on issues rather than people to decide on the issues for them. Introduce voluntary eugenism.

Want me to go on? Feel free to challenge my listed idealisms, by the way.

Xenophage · 12-06-2004, 06:01 PM

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11-26-2004, 01:28 AM	#1
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SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	there is NOTHING, i mean NOTHING sweeter than calling someone an idiot on GFY and having them DEBATE the point. __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

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11-26-2004, 02:05 AM	#24
SleazyDream I'm here for SPORT Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Phone # (401) 285-0696 Posts: 41,470	lets describe this differently . i'm all for capitalism in our current society. I'm NOT for inherentance. how can i compete with some rich brat that has millions his daddy gave him? i'm all for things like health care and good public education and good roads - but i end it THERE. government stay the fuck out of my business and life. our society will be in trouble if those with inhertance money grow richer. if you change the rich every generation with the brightest you don't have a problem with our current system - if the rick just get their kids to take over - we have a problem and the system will eventually break down __________________ This dog, is dog, a dog, good dog, way dog, to dog, keep dog, an dog, idiot dog, busy dog, for dog, 20 dog, seconds dog! Now read without the word dog.

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Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	i think by the year 2015 we will have had the next world war, at which time most of the US as we know it will have been wiped out, only to leave us with small tribes across the land we live in now.. we will have to rebuild and a new way of living will emerge

11-26-2004, 02:11 AM	#29
Repetitive Monkey Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,505	Alright, if you want to discuss possibilities for a better civilization then I will gladly throw my two cents in. End multiculturalism and imperialism, the result of which will be an almost total end of major conflict. Restrict government spending on any kind of religious or special interest groups. People who wish to crusade for a particular way of thinking better fund it themselves. Attempt to introduce a more democratic form of democracy in the most enlightened countries and see if it can be applied to more countries with time. I am talking about a form of democracy where the people vote on issues rather than people to decide on the issues for them. Introduce voluntary eugenism. Want me to go on? Feel free to challenge my listed idealisms, by the way.

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