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Battuss,

May I say I'm quite an expert when it comes to these cases ?

There are many many more aspects than weather and taxes.



How about a warm taxheaven with a murder ratio of 1:500 ?

Or a nice climate, low tax, but a government that collapses and takes all your hard earned money ?


I can give you great advice I normally only give to close friends.


First I will give you some links that will change you point of view completely :


http://www.nationmaster.com

http://www.tax-news.com

http://www.worldwide-tax.com

http://www.escapeartist.com


Those are great sources of information.

Thank me now and hug me later.

Not Brazil then.

Agree.

That government will suck you dry like a deepthroat scene.

Woohoo thanks...
Gonna read it all....and youre right, after hot chicks, crime rate is pretty important as well.

Cheers dude.

Too dangerous for whitey.

Im going to Brazil in feb or march btw.

Analprobe, im amazed youre in Nassau though. It seems a very good place to live, it was number 1 on my list till i found out the cost of living. Doesnt make much sense moving there since the prices are the same as in Amsterdam it seems.

I don't live here the whole year.

Initially I rented the house for a friend of mine who lost his wife and kids in a fire. Later we bought it together, and he moved on.

It's great here when the sun is shining, allthough I miss some products they simply don't sell or you need to pay $$$ import duties for.

But let me tell you, rainy season here is much worse than dutch winters !

If you can't afford the Bahamas, check out Barbados and Dominica, those are both great islands.

If you like to keep close to Europe and enjoy the best climate in the world (except for Costa Rica) try out a cheap vacation to :

1. Canary Islands. NOT Playa del Ingles, try La Gomera or Tenerife, explore the islands and leave the tourist areas. Part of Spain and member of EU, if you start a hotel or pub there, you pay 50% less corp. taxes, about 22% total. Cash your checks at the bar, hehe. A friend of mine does, and it works.

2. Malta. Great, dry climate, everyone talks english, very cheap, member of EU.

3. Ibiza. Also part of spain, tax incentives if you plan to run a pub/disco and great fiesta island. Very close to Gibraltar.

4. Madeira, Part of Portugal, check out tax incentives.

5. Ireland, not to live, but lowest TAX rate in EU, only 10-12.5 %

You shouldn't think of 6 months here, 6 months there.

Think about 2-3 months here, 2-3 months there, much better.



If you choose the Canary Islands, you can have vacations with cheap flights to anywhere, because a lot of jets are flying back EMPTY to all kinds of destinations. You can book cheapest in UK.

I can go on and on for hours.

Personally I think you'll like Ibiza and Tenerife very much.

You can own a diving school or your own pub (without working there, just hire the girls) and enjoy tax relief and get great quality living, great climate, parties all year and girls from around the world.

Let me know if you plan to go there, it's fun !

Great info, helps me out a lot. Somewhere closer to Holland is fine as well, like Ibiza but most places like that you still pay taxes and thats something i want to avoid. Maybe after a while i want to open a bar or something but right now thats not priority...internet is my business and i plan to retire from it (soon hahaha) and then maybe start something else.

Rio is too dangerours, other cities are not.

Rio? São Paulo? Bahia? Ceará? :Graucho

I know but still, i prefer to go a country where they dont kill you for 10 bucks.

Have to discuss with other people but Rio is most likely.

Battuss,

Some rules :

- You're only taxable somewhere when you (1) earn money there and/or (2) stay +6 months a year, at once with a visum, or combined as a tourist.

- You shouldn't live where your money is.

- You shouldn't brag where you originally come from.

Maybe that'll explain the 2-3 month advice I gave you.



Too explain it shortly :

You can be a tourist all year if you stay too short to become visa/tax eligible.

I see. You're right.

:(

Do not walk around even with the cheapeast of digital cameras.
Lots of tourists being attacked the last few weeks there :(

Damn, you got some good points, i like your advice...

Thanks.

Tell me about it...i actually was expecting to get robbed last time i was there. Fucking punk ass kids asking me stuff...i always walked the other way...i think i was nearly robbed at least 2 times.

They're attacking in big groups on the beaches. :(

The city put a few more policemen in the tourist area, but that's far from enought. I wouldn't visit Rio at this moment. This sucks.

Fucking drug dealers are destroying Rio

Consider going to other cities

A few pictures and info
http://www.cearaexplorer.com.br/cearaexplorer/main.htm
http://www.setur.ce.gov.br/english/home_en.htm
http://www.bahia.com.br/ (click "English" right below the logo)
http://www.santur.sc.gov.br/passapor...t/passport.pdf

Was just thinking...

Why not buy/rent a yacht and hang around the Mediterranean Sea ?

A relative of mine does right that, we chat alot, and because he uses an Astra Satellite connection, sometimes takes some time to connect. But it works, he has his "boat-office".

Last summer we went from Malta to Turkey, took 2 weeks to get there, but SO lovely, came across other countries, and met a lot of unusual "sailors", hehe. Great food in that area.

You can simply pick up your money in Gibraltar and go to Menorca,Tunesia, Italy, Malta etc.

It's a very safe sea also, no hijacking, no theft, no storms.

BTW,

You can get boats/yachts for 21% less (no V.A.T.) in Ceuta and Malaga.

Battuss likes boats, heheh.

As long as they dont move...

Moving boats are not my thing haha.

A friend of mine in Holland uses these guys :

http://www.rentaboat.net

Nice and cheap way to try out what I mean.

how much would a boat office cost me anal dude ?:glugglug


oops, didnt see that final reply , was busy reading when you posted that ...

I see :)

I lived in Istrien for a while (Pula, Banjole) former Jugoslawien
The area is awesome, warm 90 % out of the year the Euro can buy a shitload still.

We still have friends over there, an condo with Ocean view is about 200 euros in the month (still)

However you need to jump on it, a lot of people are moving there lately..

Depends...

Let's say the smallest option is a 40 ft/ 13 meters long motorized boat.

Cheapest used about $20k (piece of crappa, hehe)
Normal used $50k
New $110k

Comfort, 60 ft/ 20 meters long.

Cheapest used $35k (crappa)
Normal used $80k
New $200k

Navigation and office parts, computer(s), satellite rec.
Used $6k
New $10k

You need a satelite connection, which is about $1500 setup,$100/month and $12/Gb surf traffic, depending on the satellite company you choose.

Satellite connections have relative high latency, but also high bandwidth, comparable to DSL.

GSM works in the mediterranean waters.

It's called the "Battuss Enterprise" :


http://www.sealine.com/imgs/f44-flybridge-yacht.jpg

You do realize with the visa thing that you don't have to go back to your home country? So if you're in a country that requires a three month visa. All you have to do is go to a neighboring country for a few days and then return. That's how I'm going to do it when I move to Ghana. I'll just hit Nigeria for a few days and re-apply for my visa there. Or you can always file for a visa extention within the country that you're visiting.

:thumbsup

Or if you like to avoid the attention...

Do like BradM does :

http://www.sealine.com/imgs/s24-sports-cruiser.jpg

It will take a little longer, but if you don't mind your image...

andf I thought you're moving to Barcelona :1orglaugh

:Graucho

In you live only 3 months a year in a country you usually dont have to pay tax.
So my plan is to live in the Netherlands for 3 months. 3 months in Belgium (one hour by train to my hometown) 3 months in Brazil and each year 3 months in a "surprisecountry".
This is what I intend to do starting in 2005.

I love Rio. The cost of living is low. The girls are beautiful. The visa stuff is easy. You can stay one day under 6 months and it is good for 5 years.

Do not walk the beach at night or in the rain. I bring my digital camera everywhere. If I am drunk or uncomfortable I get a taxi. It is sort of like living in the inner city of a major city in the US.

Google for "perpetual traveller" or "perpetual tourist".

Good luck !

Found some very interesting results with that.
Thank you!
:thumbsup

*bookmarking this thread*

You're welcome. :thumbsup

"1 hour to Belgium"

Do you live in the south of Holland ?

I will be in Rotterdam next month for business.

Try something like south brazil. Heard it was one of the best place in Brazil (not Rio).

You should talk to Nastyrat from nastyrat.com. Hes a nice guy too and live in Curitiba:
http://www.dismantle.org/curitiba.htm

If you want his ICQ, then I can send it to you.

Good luck with your plans :glugglug

Buenos Aires?

http://businesscenter.ccbill.com/visa-regions.html
I would say Gibraltar or Cyprus.

Yeah - a condom!

Here is more..

http://www.context.org/ICLIB/IC39/Meadows.htm

:thumbsup

This scheme won't help you avoid taxes.

I was in Curitiba two years ago.
Nice, clean but very boring...:(

With this scheme you need proof that you actually were where you said you were. Hotel bills will do the trick.

Problem is, you must be able to explain how you were able to PAY the hotel bills.

= = =

If you're an American citizen, forget it, you'll have to pay wherever you reside.

If you leave the U.S., you can live somewhere else and they'll leave the first 70k, above you have to pay.

It takes 10 years before you're not obliged to pay anymore.

= = =

my solution is a disclaimer for my site.

the price is $30 per month if the dollah drops I will bill you extra! :glugglug

Yes I do...You hit the spot. Rotterdam :Graucho
Hit me up on icq after december 3 and I will either show you around or drink beer with you. (or both)
:glugglug