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Wolfy · 11-20-2004, 12:04 AM

I'll check answers in the morning. it doesn't look good going by the managed host numbers

Veterans Day · 11-20-2004, 12:07 AM

Steen2 · 11-20-2004, 12:07 AM

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Originally posted by Wolfy
I'll check answers in the morning. it doesn't look good going by the managed host numbers

Rackshack is bare bones manage yourself AFAIK.

Isn't ISPrime full service?

I like FNap me self.

Veterans Day · 11-20-2004, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by Steen2
Rackshack is bare bones manage yourself AFAIK.

Isn't ISPrime full service?

I like FNap me self.

Yes full service, 24-7 365 days all holidays. ICQ-Email-800 phone number and NEVER a retarded answering machine or any of that bullshit. Noone can compare personally. When is the last time there was a ISPrime down thread ? BangBros.com- TCG's FHG's- FTVGirls and many other massive programs are at ISPrime, does that say anything?

Contact Henry to work on a plan that suit you.

lloyd · 11-20-2004, 12:17 AM

im a huge fan of ev1/rackshack, *but* i dont need or want managed. i have a colo there for like 2 years thats never gone down and i only pay like a hundred a month for it, cant go wrong with that.

AndrewKanuck · 11-20-2004, 12:34 AM

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Originally posted by lloyd
im a huge fan of ev1/rackshack, *but* i dont need or want managed. i have a colo there for like 2 years thats never gone down and i only pay like a hundred a month for it, cant go wrong with that.

Since when did Ev1/RS do colo?

Magg · 11-20-2004, 12:36 AM

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Originally posted by AndrewKanuck
Since when did Ev1/RS do colo?

Thats what I was gonna say...

btw, theres no way to compare ISPrime to Rackshack, theyre two differant things.

If youre seriously asking this question looking for an answer, you should rethink what your needs are first.

lloyd · 11-20-2004, 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by AndrewKanuck
Since when did Ev1/RS do colo?

uh thats me using the wrong term again, bad habit of mine i've had for years..

d00t · 11-20-2004, 01:44 AM

This is how I determine what ISP to use:

think of the worst case scenario you could possibly have with that company, then make it happen and see how they act.

Unfortunately this is a bad example because I've never delt with isprime and have done tens of thousands of dollars of business with ev1. I have also filed several legal documents against ev1 and charged back over $4,000 through my card company.

Everyone can match bandwidth and server specs, personally I'd go with whoever can give you the most honest, candid and fastest support. but only if it's worth the extra $$ you pay in server costs.

Theres a billion articles on the net of how to find a good solid hosting company - go read them.

johndoebob · 11-20-2004, 02:01 AM

Rackshack doesn't exist anymore, just EV1 and they provide totally different services.

MaDalton · 11-20-2004, 03:24 AM

i like ev1 - they were always extremely fast and helpful to me. and after having a quick look i saw that i would have to pay at isprime at least 4 times of what i have to pay at ev1.

moneymaker_ro · 11-20-2004, 03:29 AM

I like ev1 too.

VirtuMike · 11-20-2004, 03:51 AM

The difference is that *I* would host at ISPrime and you could not pay me enough to host at Rackshack again.

Their support staff is incompetant, their network is inferior, and they lie.

While there, we experienced a fire on the transformer that feeds the power to the building, someone tripped over our network cable, and THREE WEEKS of outage, despite our monitoring system sending repeated emails every couple minutes to support and headsurfer. These went ignored, as did our outage.

I do not believe that this would EVER happen at ISPrime. Of course, it's your call, but I know what my hosting is worth.

bluff · 11-20-2004, 04:25 AM

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Originally posted by VirtuMike
The difference is that *I* would host at ISPrime and you could not pay me enough to host at Rackshack again.

Their support staff is incompetant, their network is inferior, and they lie.

While there, we experienced a fire on the transformer that feeds the power to the building, someone tripped over our network cable, and THREE WEEKS of outage, despite our monitoring system sending repeated emails every couple minutes to support and headsurfer. These went ignored, as did our outage.

I do not believe that this would EVER happen at ISPrime. Of course, it's your call, but I know what my hosting is worth.

nothing compares to ISPrime. I host with them too and furthermore I have never seen ANY bad word about them on ANY board.

d00t · 11-20-2004, 05:17 AM

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Originally posted by bluff
nothing compares to ISPrime. I host with them too and furthermore I have never seen ANY bad word about them on ANY board.

you need to consider ev1's prices attract the low budget market and with that comes those type of people. Also consider that ev1 has probably 5000x more clients than isprime.

Given that, I'd say ev1 is a winner.

shiZZn · 11-20-2004, 05:29 AM

Wolfy, you really can't compare ev1 & isprime that way. That's like saying "Casio sells more watches than Breitling or Rolex, Casio must be better"
If I could afford it, I'd host with isprime anytime!

gxer · 11-20-2004, 05:52 AM

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Originally posted by Wolfy
I'll check answers in the morning. it doesn't look good going by the managed host numbers

your question says me - you never managed any big site with
huge traffic.
Ev1 can't manage high bandwidth, period.

Do you think people pay hard earned money to established hosting companies just for fun ?

Wolfy · 11-20-2004, 10:38 AM

actually I made a mistake - I use theplanet, they are a sister company that provides a similar service (managed hosted blah) - my question was aimed towards that, sorry for the confusion.

Wolfy · 11-20-2004, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by d00t
This is how I determine what ISP to use:

think of the worst case scenario you could possibly have with that company, then make it happen and see how they act.

exactly what i did - thats why i'm with theplanet right now

Babaganoosh · 11-20-2004, 10:50 AM

ev1 rocks. I have two servers there. ISPrime is great if you need managed hosting. I don't so why pay for it? I have been at ev1 for years and don't plan on moving.

49thParallel · 11-20-2004, 10:57 AM

I use ev1 exclusively, and would recommend them IF you don't mind getting your hands dirty. Chances are, you will need to tweak the system, httpd.conf, any other config files to match your type of content and traffic.

Or you can do like me, and go onto their forum forum.ev1servers.net, and simply hire a tech to manage your server. This still saves me tons over the competition, and my server is upgraded with all the newest patches every 2 weeks.

And to those who say EV1 can't handle the traffic... Bull shit. I have a few of older Celeron 1300's with 512 mb ram, and even these boxes perform great. These boxes never crash, the load generally stays below .08, and I am pumping out just shy of the maximum monthly bandwidth allowed ... I'm at about 900 to 975 gigs per month, per server. And at just over $100 per month per server...I'm singing all the way to the bank.

Again, it's all about tweaking the server for your specific load demands.

Biggy2 · 11-20-2004, 12:16 PM

Do you like things getting done within 5 minutes of an email request, or 30 seconds after you send an ICQ or AIM to their live support? If you want the above, go with ISPrime.

If you like managing your server yourself, and are capable with no help and want to save money, then go with rackshack. Thats the difference.

I'll just point out, many of the largest affiliate programs host with ISPrime. That should say enough.

Magg · 11-20-2004, 12:21 PM

Dont forget that EV1 has NO SLA on uptime.

xclusive · 11-20-2004, 12:25 PM

Go with FoundryNap or ISprime you will get great service either way...

Veterans Day · 11-20-2004, 12:33 PM

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Originally posted by xclusive
Go with FoundryNap or ISprime you will get great service either way...

No comparison

Strife · 11-20-2004, 12:57 PM

It's called support and uptime

TheSaint · 11-20-2004, 02:38 PM

I use EV1 and the Planet, both generally great with huge networks and good uptime. Have boxes with both there for years with only a couple incidents.

Network is great and handled simulataneous galleries on hun and sleazydream and others that sent 200K movie gallery customers in 1 day to 1 server, no problem.

The fire incident where a transformer in the parking lot or wherever of EV1 blew up was actually good testimony to EV1 - 99% of customers, including me, never went down event though they were on generators for weeks.

Downside is, no real support. But they tell you that when you sign up, some people just can't understand "self managed". Also you are just a number there unless you have 20 boxes. And the network, while good, is not exactly the primo badwidth that bangbus uses that makes you think you are in the same room with the noc.

But overall, I give EV1 and TP at least a B+ if you know exactly what you are doing.

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VirtuMike Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seat 1A Posts: 2,483	The difference is that I would host at ISPrime and you could not pay me enough to host at Rackshack again. Their support staff is incompetant, their network is inferior, and they lie. While there, we experienced a fire on the transformer that feeds the power to the building, someone tripped over our network cable, and THREE WEEKS of outage, despite our monitoring system sending repeated emails every couple minutes to support and headsurfer. These went ignored, as did our outage. I do not believe that this would EVER happen at ISPrime. Of course, it's your call, but I know what my hosting is worth. __________________ Host it in AMSTERDAM at EUROTIVITY! - We also offer BACKUP SERVICES! XYZZY4L

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lloyd Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: 858/604 Posts: 798	im a huge fan of ev1/rackshack, but i dont need or want managed. i have a colo there for like 2 years thats never gone down and i only pay like a hundred a month for it, cant go wrong with that.

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d00t Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In your mind Posts: 3,766	This is how I determine what ISP to use: think of the worst case scenario you could possibly have with that company, then make it happen and see how they act. Unfortunately this is a bad example because I've never delt with isprime and have done tens of thousands of dollars of business with ev1. I have also filed several legal documents against ev1 and charged back over $4,000 through my card company. Everyone can match bandwidth and server specs, personally I'd go with whoever can give you the most honest, candid and fastest support. but only if it's worth the extra $$ you pay in server costs. Theres a billion articles on the net of how to find a good solid hosting company - go read them.

11-20-2004, 03:29 AM	#12
moneymaker_ro Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Romania Posts: 640	I like ev1 too.

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shiZZn Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: ...locating... Posts: 71	Wolfy, you really can't compare ev1 & isprime that way. That's like saying "Casio sells more watches than Breitling or Rolex, Casio must be better" If I could afford it, I'd host with isprime anytime! __________________ SPANK it BITE it LICK it HIT it - Anal Philosophies by Armand J. Palmer

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Wolfy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 3,574	actually I made a mistake - I use theplanet, they are a sister company that provides a similar service (managed hosted blah) - my question was aimed towards that, sorry for the confusion.

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Babaganoosh ♥♥♥ Likes Hugs ♥♥♥ Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: /home Posts: 15,841	ev1 rocks. I have two servers there. ISPrime is great if you need managed hosting. I don't so why pay for it? I have been at ev1 for years and don't plan on moving. __________________ I like pie.

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49thParallel So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,197	I use ev1 exclusively, and would recommend them IF you don't mind getting your hands dirty. Chances are, you will need to tweak the system, httpd.conf, any other config files to match your type of content and traffic. Or you can do like me, and go onto their forum forum.ev1servers.net, and simply hire a tech to manage your server. This still saves me tons over the competition, and my server is upgraded with all the newest patches every 2 weeks. And to those who say EV1 can't handle the traffic... Bull shit. I have a few of older Celeron 1300's with 512 mb ram, and even these boxes perform great. These boxes never crash, the load generally stays below .08, and I am pumping out just shy of the maximum monthly bandwidth allowed ... I'm at about 900 to 975 gigs per month, per server. And at just over $100 per month per server...I'm singing all the way to the bank. Again, it's all about tweaking the server for your specific load demands.

11-20-2004, 12:16 PM	#22
Biggy2 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,821	Do you like things getting done within 5 minutes of an email request, or 30 seconds after you send an ICQ or AIM to their live support? If you want the above, go with ISPrime. If you like managing your server yourself, and are capable with no help and want to save money, then go with rackshack. Thats the difference. I'll just point out, many of the largest affiliate programs host with ISPrime. That should say enough.

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Magg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: ICQ: 132497047 Posts: 4,467	Dont forget that EV1 has NO SLA on uptime.

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Strife Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 4,534	It's called support and uptime __________________ Buy & Sell Ads on The Most Sexy Advertising Network on the Planet

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TheSaint Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Everywhere at once Posts: 991	I use EV1 and the Planet, both generally great with huge networks and good uptime. Have boxes with both there for years with only a couple incidents. Network is great and handled simulataneous galleries on hun and sleazydream and others that sent 200K movie gallery customers in 1 day to 1 server, no problem. The fire incident where a transformer in the parking lot or wherever of EV1 blew up was actually good testimony to EV1 - 99% of customers, including me, never went down event though they were on generators for weeks. Downside is, no real support. But they tell you that when you sign up, some people just can't understand "self managed". Also you are just a number there unless you have 20 boxes. And the network, while good, is not exactly the primo badwidth that bangbus uses that makes you think you are in the same room with the noc. But overall, I give EV1 and TP at least a B+ if you know exactly what you are doing. __________________ I have no signature