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Old 11-17-2004, 10:50 PM   #1
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Full Transcript Of Osama video

Peace be upon he who follows the guidance: People of America this talk of mine is for you and concerns the ideal way to prevent another Manhattan, and deals with the war and its causes and results.

Before I begin, I say to you that security is an indispensable pillar of human life and that free men do not forfeit their security, contrary to Bush's claim that we hate freedom.

If so, then let him explain to us why we don't strike for example - Sweden? And we know that freedom-haters don't possess defiant spirits like those of the 19 - may Allah have mercy on them.

No, we fight because we are free men who don't sleep under oppression. We want to restore freedom to our nation, just as you lay waste to our nation. So shall we lay waste to yours.

No one except a dumb thief plays with the security of others and then makes himself believe he will be secure. Whereas thinking people, when disaster strikes, make it their priority to look for its causes, in order to prevent it happening again.

But I am amazed at you. Even though we are in the fourth year after the events of September 11th, Bush is still engaged in distortion, deception and hiding from you the real causes. And thus, the reasons are still there for a repeat of what occurred.

So I shall talk to you about the story behind those events and shall tell you truthfully about the moments in which the decision was taken, for you to consider.

I say to you, Allah knows that it had never occurred to us to strike the towers. But after it became unbearable and we witnessed the oppression and tyranny of the American/Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it came to my mind.

The events that affected my soul in a direct way started in 1982 when America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American Sixth Fleet helped them in that. This bombardment began and many were killed and injured and others were terrorised and displaced.

I couldn't forget those moving scenes, blood and severed limbs, women and children sprawled everywhere. Houses destroyed along with their occupants and high rises demolished over their residents, rockets raining down on our home without mercy.

The situation was like a crocodile meeting a helpless child, powerless except for his screams. Does the crocodile understand a conversation that doesn't include a weapon? And the whole world saw and heard but it didn't respond.

In those difficult moments many hard-to-describe ideas bubbled in my soul, but in the end they produced an intense feeling of rejection of tyranny, and gave birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors.

And as I looked at those demolished towers in Lebanon, it entered my mind that we should punish the oppressor in kind and that we should destroy towers in America in order that they taste some of what we tasted and so that they be deterred from killing our women and children.

And that day, it was confirmed to me that oppression and the intentional killing of innocent women and children is a deliberate American policy. Destruction is freedom and democracy, while resistance is terrorism and intolerance.

This means the oppressing and embargoing to death of millions as Bush Sr did in Iraq in the greatest mass slaughter of children mankind has ever known, and it means the throwing of millions of pounds of bombs and explosives at millions of children - also in Iraq - as Bush Jr did, in order to remove an old agent and replace him with a new puppet to assist in the pilfering of Iraq's oil and other outrages.

So with these images and their like as their background, the events of September 11th came as a reply to those great wrongs, should a man be blamed for defending his sanctuary?

Is defending oneself and punishing the aggressor in kind, objectionable terrorism? If it is such, then it is unavoidable for us.

This is the message which I sought to communicate to you in word and deed, repeatedly, for years before September 11th.

And you can read this, if you wish, in my interview with Scott in Time Magazine in 1996, or with Peter Arnett on CNN in 1997, or my meeting with John Weiner in 1998.

You can observe it practically, if you wish, in Kenya and Tanzania and in Aden. And you can read it in my interview with Abdul Bari Atwan, as well as my interviews with Robert Fisk.

The latter is one of your compatriots and co-religionists and I consider him to be neutral. So are the pretenders of freedom at the White House and the channels controlled by them able to run an interview with him? So that he may relay to the American people what he has understood from us to be the reasons for our fight against you?

If you were to avoid these reasons, you will have taken the correct path that will lead America to the security that it was in before September 11th. This concerned the causes of the war.

As for it's results, they have been, by the grace of Allah, positive and enormous, and have, by all standards, exceeded all expectations. This is due to many factors, chief among them, that we have found it difficult to deal with the Bush administration in light of the resemblance it bears to the regimes in our countries, half of which are ruled by the military and the other half which are ruled by the sons of kings and presidents.

Our experience with them is lengthy, and both types are replete with those who are characterised by pride, arrogance, greed and misappropriation of wealth. This resemblance began after the visits of Bush Sr to the region.

At a time when some of our compatriots were dazzled by America and hoping that these visits would have an effect on our countries, all of a sudden he was affected by those monarchies and military regimes, and became envious of their remaining decades in their positions, to embezzle the public wealth of the nation without supervision or accounting.

So he took dictatorship and suppression of freedoms to his son and they named it the Patriot Act, under the pretence of fighting terrorism. In addition, Bush sanctioned the installing of sons as state governors, and didn't forget to import expertise in election fraud from the region's presidents to Florida to be made use of in moments of difficulty.
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Old 11-17-2004, 10:51 PM   #2
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All that we have mentioned has made it easy for us to provoke and bait this administration. All that we have to do is to send two mujahidin to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al-Qaida, in order to make the generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic, and political losses without their achieving for it anything of note other than some benefits for their private companies.

This is in addition to our having experience in using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers, as we, alongside the mujahidin, bled Russia for 10 years, until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat.

All Praise is due to Allah.

So we are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah.

That being said, those who say that al-Qaida has won against the administration in the White House or that the administration has lost in this war have not been precise, because when one scrutinises the results, one cannot say that al-Qaida is the sole factor in achieving those spectacular gains.

Rather, the policy of the White House that demands the opening of war fronts to keep busy their various corporations - whether they be working in the field of arms or oil or reconstruction - has helped al-Qaida to achieve these enormous results.

And so it has appeared to some analysts and diplomats that the White House and us are playing as one team towards the economic goals of the United States, even if the intentions differ.

And it was to these sorts of notions and their like that the British diplomat and others were referring in their lectures at the Royal Institute of International Affairs. [When they pointed out that] for example, al-Qaida spent $500,000 on the event, while America, in the incident and its aftermath, lost - according to the lowest estimate - more than $500 billion.

Meaning that every dollar of al-Qaida defeated a million dollars by the permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs.

As for the size of the economic deficit, it has reached record astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars.

And even more dangerous and bitter for America is that the mujahidin recently forced Bush to resort to emergency funds to continue the fight in Afghanistan and Iraq, which is evidence of the success of the bleed-until-bankruptcy plan - with Allah's permission.

It is true that this shows that al-Qaida has gained, but on the other hand, it shows that the Bush administration has also gained, something of which anyone who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton and its kind, will be convinced. And it all shows that the real loser is ... you.

It is the American people and their economy. And for the record, we had agreed with the Commander-General Muhammad Ataa, Allah have mercy on him, that all the operations should be carried out within 20 minutes, before Bush and his administration notice.

It never occurred to us that the commander-in-chief of the American armed forces would abandon 50,000 of his citizens in the twin towers to face those great horrors alone, the time when they most needed him.

But because it seemed to him that occupying himself by talking to the little girl about the goat and its butting was more important than occupying himself with the planes and their butting of the skyscrapers, we were given three times the period required to execute the operations - all praise is due to Allah.

And it's no secret to you that the thinkers and perceptive ones from among the Americans warned Bush before the war and told him: "All that you want for securing America and removing the weapons of mass destruction - assuming they exist - is available to you, and the nations of the world are with you in the inspections, and it is in the interest of America that it not be thrust into an unjustified war with an unknown outcome."

But the darkness of the black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave priority to private interests over the public interests of America.

So the war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled, and Bush became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq that threaten his future. He fits the saying "like the naughty she-goat who used her hoof to dig up a knife from under the earth".

So I say to you, over 15,000 of our people have been killed and tens of thousands injured, while more than a thousand of you have been killed and more than 10,000 injured. And Bush's hands are stained with the blood of all those killed from both sides, all for the sake of oil and keeping their private companies in business.

Be aware that it is the nation who punishes the weak man when he causes the killing of one of its citizens for money, while letting the powerful one get off, when he causes the killing of more than 1000 of its sons, also for money.

And the same goes for your allies in Palestine. They terrorise the women and children, and kill and capture the men as they lie sleeping with their families on the mattresses, that you may recall that for every action, there is a reaction.

Finally, it behoves you to reflect on the last wills and testaments of the thousands who left you on the 11th as they gestured in despair. They are important testaments, which should be studied and researched.

Among the most important of what I read in them was some prose in their gestures before the collapse, where they say: "How mistaken we were to have allowed the White House to implement its aggressive foreign policies against the weak without supervision."

It is as if they were telling you, the people of America: "Hold to account those who have caused us to be killed, and happy is he who learns from others' mistakes."

And among that which I read in their gestures is a verse of poetry. "Injustice chases its people, and how unhealthy the bed of tyranny."

As has been said: "An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure."

And know that: "It is better to return to the truth than persist in error." And that the wise man doesn't squander his security, wealth and children for the sake of the liar in the White House.

In conclusion, I tell you in truth, that your security is not in the hands of Kerry, nor Bush, nor al-Qaida. No.

Your security is in your own hands. And every state that doesn't play with our security has automatically guaranteed its own security.

And Allah is our Guardian and Helper, while you have no Guardian or Helper. All peace be upon he who follows the Guidance.
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Old 11-17-2004, 11:07 PM   #3
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I doubt anyone is going to read all that. I read more than I though I was going to. Where did you find this?
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Old 11-17-2004, 11:09 PM   #4
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Old 11-17-2004, 11:12 PM   #5
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I doubt anyone is going to read all that. I read more than I though I was going to. Where did you find this?
maybe you or 99% of gfy'ers wont read it - but all of the wacko followers will have it memorized word for word
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Old 11-17-2004, 11:16 PM   #7
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I read every word. Amazing.
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Old 11-17-2004, 11:24 PM   #9
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well its worth reading, it explains the motives behind these actions and how to ( if you want to stop killing innocent people) make peace. i dont expect many to read it but those who do will have a better understanding. go watch cnn if it makes you more comfortable
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I read every word. Amazing.
So did I..... very interesting, huh?
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I read it. And I was blown away by it.

Newflash to the Middle East: In the next thirty years your oil wells will have dryed up, leaving you with nothing. The rest of the world will have moved on to alternative fuels. No one will give a shit about the Middle East, and you'll leave this earth poor and empty handed.

The Muslim race is no better than any other race or religion. And if you think otherwise, well, the rest of the world will prove you wrong.

On 9/11 you attacked us, and killed thousands of innocent people. We cannot and will not sit by and allow this to happen. You pissed us off Osama, and look at the end result. We destroyed your oganization and will hunt you and you buddies down until you are all dead.

You shot your entire load on 9/11. The US hasn't begun to strike back yet.
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I read it. And I was blown away by it.

Newflash to the Middle East: In the next thirty years your oil wells will have dryed up, leaving you with nothing. The rest of the world will have moved on to alternative fuels. No one will give a shit about the Middle East, and you'll leave this earth poor and empty handed.

The Muslim race is no better than any other race or religion. And if you think otherwise, well, the rest of the world will prove you wrong.

On 9/11 you attacked us, and killed thousands of innocent people. We cannot and will not sit by and allow this to happen. You pissed us off Osama, and look at the end result. We destroyed your oganization and will hunt you and you buddies down until you are all dead.

You shot your entire load on 9/11. The US hasn't begun to strike back yet.
please dont pretend you read it. you did not read any of it with a post like that
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The Muslim race is no better than any other race or religion. And if you think otherwise, well, the rest of the world will prove you wrong.

On 9/11 you attacked us, and killed thousands of innocent people. We cannot and will not sit by and allow this to happen. You pissed us off Osama, and look at the end result.
Don't you see, this is exactly what HE is telling YOU. You pissed him and his off enough to make them commit suicide and blow up several thousand civilians just to show the world their anger with you.
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"As for it's results, they have been, by the grace of Allah, positive and enormous, and have, by all standards, exceeded all expectations. "

Really? You attacked three buildings, we destroyed two nations. Score: US 2, Osama 0.

"This is in addition to our having experience in using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers, as we, alongside the mujahidin, bled Russia for 10 years, until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat. "

Is that so? You bled Russia for ten years in Afganastan, yet it took us how long to take out the governement in Afaganastan? Two weeks? A month?

Hate to burst your bubble, but there are no virgins waiting for you at the end of the line. Go back to your cave.
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Please post the video, I never seen it.
I'll read after.
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It is an interesting read for sure and just proves we are dealing with a smart but mad man. He will meet his end sooner or later and we will be attacked again of that i am sure but this time it's going to get messier when we have to go into the lands of our allies the Pakastanis...
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Pretty fucking tragic when the biggest terrorist in the world is more honest than our own president.
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"As for it's results, they have been, by the grace of Allah, positive and enormous, and have, by all standards, exceeded all expectations. "

Really? You attacked three buildings, we destroyed two nations. Score: US 2, Osama 0.

"This is in addition to our having experience in using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers, as we, alongside the mujahidin, bled Russia for 10 years, until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat. "

Is that so? You bled Russia for ten years in Afganastan, yet it took us how long to take out the governement in Afaganastan? Two weeks? A month?

Hate to burst your bubble, but there are no virgins waiting for you at the end of the line. Go back to your cave.
c'mon dude get a grip
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I read it and all I have to say is:
the US media, and main international media sources have all kept the viewers in the dark. There needs to be some hardcore unbiased reports out there, with the reality of the situation.

Blood for Blood - it will allways remain this way in the end.
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c'mon dude get a grip
He has allready been brainwashed by the goverment. I dont think he has the capacity to think for himself anymore.

What's even more nuts, is he thinks osama is reading this thread
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We are getting revenge for 9/11. 9/11 was revenge for blowing up innocents in Lebanon and Palestine. We're just exchanging blows. At some point someone with some power has to say, "This is fuckin stupid!" Otherwise, we're doomed to another retaliation, to which we'll retaliate. Violence begets violence. You can't ever reach world peace by blowing shit up.

Money wise, Osama is right, we spend $1,000,000 for every $1 they spend. Yet, we still don't have him. We can't even stop the insurgency in Iraq. Going by historical prescidents, it'll take us about 20 years to quell the insurgency, if we do it with everything we've got the entire time and never let up. Americans in general aren't willing to do that, Vietnam is too fresh in our collective memories.
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What's even more nuts, is he thinks osama is reading this thread
Maybe he thinks osama started the thread.
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I read it and all I have to say is:
the US media, and main international media sources have all kept the viewers in the dark. There needs to be some hardcore unbiased reports out there, with the reality of the situation.

Blood for Blood - it will allways remain this way in the end.
Yep, I agree. I find it very disturbing that the mainstream media just showed us bits and pieces.
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It's unfortunate that the redneck 'mericans don't understand that 911 was an act of retaliation. They seem to have swallowed the line that 'they hate our freedom' or that they just hate us for no particular reason, and that's why they attacked us.

It's real simple - stop fucking with the middle east, and the middle east will stop fucking with us. Keep fucking with the middle east, and the middle east will keep fucking with us.

Our first President George Washington warned of entangling alliances, of course he was a very smart man. Our current President wouldn't be worthy of shining his shoes.
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Very interesting.

ALL americans should read this. No exception.

Open your ears, listen and be objective for once.
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It's unfortunate that the redneck 'mericans don't understand that 911 was an act of retaliation. They seem to have swallowed the line that 'they hate our freedom' or that they just hate us for no particular reason, and that's why they attacked us.

It's real simple - stop fucking with the middle east, and the middle east will stop fucking with us. Keep fucking with the middle east, and the middle east will keep fucking with us.

Our first President George Washington warned of entangling alliances, of course he was a very smart man. Our current President wouldn't be worthy of shining his shoes.
Half of the world is kept in darkness man, it's sad.
Can you even imagine the reactions if the media started displaying the bodies of war casulaties on tv? The one time they did this, was when they got sadams sons. Everyone was happy about it too, but that's because an early seed was planted.
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long, but interesting read..not much that I didn't know already though
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I got the exact opposite effect from that speech. You can really get a grasp of the guys personality from that speech , something i have never seen yet of asama, but in the end he is just an ignorant racist, nothing more.

Hmm he attacked innocent people who didnt know anything about him or his people because we attacked his innocent people first ?? thats his solution?? so what about the people that survived 9/11 , now they have the right to bomb thousands of innocent other people and thus they would get to kill more of us and so on and so on until were all dead, hmm great solution dipshit..

The mujadeen bled russia to bancruptcy ?? hahah

I like the little bit about hiring election fraud experts lol , it shows he is a paranoid fucker that is listening to stories from cnn to much
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It's unfortunate that the redneck 'mericans don't understand that 911 was an act of retaliation. They seem to have swallowed the line that 'they hate our freedom' or that they just hate us for no particular reason, and that's why they attacked us.
I dont think anyone thinks that.

its obvious its retaliation, but as a civilized society we realise an eye for an eye will make the whole world blind..

they retaliated so now we get to retaliate then they deserve a good retaliation, and then we get another one etc etc etc do you see where this is going ?? nowhere fast
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You all missed the point and the truth. We have been helping Israel for years with their problems. Jews are only 4% of our population and caused 99% of our problems in that part of the world.

So Americans need to ask ..what has Israel done for YOU?
Christians are a large percentage of our population and they represent the biggest group of supporters for Israel.
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Very interesting.

ALL americans should read this. No exception.

Open your ears, listen and be objective for once.
I read it...before it was posted here and "objectively" the man is a fool...as he does not know much about the enemy he has created for himself and/or "cause".
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I read it...before it was posted here and "objectively" the man is a fool...as he does not know much about the enemy he has created for himself and/or "cause".
always with the bs theking
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...if true don't you think it's time to stop? Who gives a shit about Israel. If it stops all this mess cut them lose and let deal with the mess they created.
Who gives a shit about Israel? I think the polls show that the overwhelming majority of the American people do. When the majority of the American people decide that they do not want to support Israel then those elected to represent the American people will withdraw their support...but I do not see that happening in the foreseeable future.
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always with the bs theking
No bullshit...I think the man is a fool...for the reason stated.
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Very interesting.

ALL americans should read this. No exception.

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Pretty fucking tragic when the biggest terrorist in the world is more honest than our own president.
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I read it...before it was posted here and "objectively" the man is a fool...as he does not know much about the enemy he has created for himself and/or "cause".
you read it, but you probably didn't comprehend it if you dismiss him as a fool.

he does not hate freedom, he just wants revenge for the neverending bloodthirst and need for war from usa. its very simple. the greedy leaders of usa brought this upon themselves and it will not end until they admit their mistakes, and maybe not even then. it will probably never end.
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you read it, but you probably didn't comprehend it if you dismiss him as a fool.

he does not hate freedom, he just wants revenge for the neverending bloodthirst and need for war from usa. its very simple. the greedy leaders of usa brought this upon themselves and it will not end until they admit their mistakes, and maybe not even then. it will probably never end.
Apparently it is you that probably does not comprehend what I stated.

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I read it...before it was posted here and "objectively" the man is a fool...as he does not know much about the enemy he has created for himself and/or "cause".
I stand by my statement...it is apparent that he does not know much about the enemy he has created for himself and/or his cause.
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interesting but way too long.
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Pretty fucking tragic when the biggest terrorist in the world is more honest than our own president.
very true.. I do not like what they do or how they do it.. But you have to admit at lest he told it like it was and didn't get into the whole my god is better than your god BS..
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reading that stopped me in my tracks. i don't agree with him, however i feel like i have a better understanding of who he is and how he thinks.
i hate bush...
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a smart mad man who the united states trained. people dont want to accept how much he knows about our country, i doubt he did all that training with CIA and didnt get some insight into the flaws of our security.
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very true.. I do not like what they do or how they do it.. But you have to admit at lest he told it like it was and didn't get into the whole my god is better than your god BS..

I agree. What they did was completely wrong but I do understand why. Before 9/11 I was always amazed that the US was never attacked but I knew it was just a matter of time. All it takes is for one to look beyond our biased media to know certain administrations in this country have abused its power to control other governments, repress certain groups of people, have killed quite a few innocent people, and have stuck its nose where it does not belong. Fuck with a bees nest and eventually you are going to get stung.

We have not seen the end of this, I'm afraid 9/11 was just the beginning. Bush invading Iraq was probably about the worse thing he could have done and once again we will pay for the repurcussions of it, and I feel in a much bigger way than 9/11. Anyone who thinks you can stop it is a fool, there are simply to many ways for someone to pull off an attack.

It really makes me sad to see what has happened to this country. We used to be a country that the world looked up to and what other countries strived to be like. We have lost our way of being a country of peace and goodwill and instead have been led astray by corrupt leaders with less than honorable intentions, and yet we cannot understand why people want to attack us.
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I agree. What they did was completely wrong but I do understand why. Before 9/11 I was always amazed that the US was never attacked but I knew it was just a matter of time. All it takes is for one to look beyond our biased media to know certain administrations in this country have abused its power to control other governments, repress certain groups of people, have killed quite a few innocent people, and have stuck its nose where it does not belong. Fuck with a bees nest and eventually you are going to get stung.

We have not seen the end of this, I'm afraid 9/11 was just the beginning. Bush invading Iraq was probably about the worse thing he could have done and once again we will pay for the repurcussions of it, and I feel in a much bigger way than 9/11. Anyone who thinks you can stop it is a fool, there are simply to many ways for someone to pull off an attack.

It really makes me sad to see what has happened to this country. We used to be a country that the world looked up to and what other countries strived to be like. We have lost our way of being a country of peace and goodwill and instead have been led astray by corrupt leaders with less than honorable intentions, and yet we cannot understand why people want to attack us.
I could not agree with you more. 100% dead on.
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We are getting revenge for 9/11. 9/11 was revenge for blowing up innocents in Lebanon and Palestine. We're just exchanging blows. At some point someone with some power has to say, "This is fuckin stupid!" Otherwise, we're doomed to another retaliation, to which we'll retaliate. Violence begets violence. You can't ever reach world peace by blowing shit up.

Money wise, Osama is right, we spend $1,000,000 for every $1 they spend. Yet, we still don't have him. We can't even stop the insurgency in Iraq. Going by historical prescidents, it'll take us about 20 years to quell the insurgency, if we do it with everything we've got the entire time and never let up. Americans in general aren't willing to do that, Vietnam is too fresh in our collective memories.
Finally someone with a half a clue!
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I agree. What they did was completely wrong but I do understand why. Before 9/11 I was always amazed that the US was never attacked but I knew it was just a matter of time. All it takes is for one to look beyond our biased media to know certain administrations in this country have abused its power to control other governments, repress certain groups of people, have killed quite a few innocent people, and have stuck its nose where it does not belong. Fuck with a bees nest and eventually you are going to get stung.

We have not seen the end of this, I'm afraid 9/11 was just the beginning. Bush invading Iraq was probably about the worse thing he could have done and once again we will pay for the repurcussions of it, and I feel in a much bigger way than 9/11. Anyone who thinks you can stop it is a fool, there are simply to many ways for someone to pull off an attack.

It really makes me sad to see what has happened to this country. We used to be a country that the world looked up to and what other countries strived to be like. We have lost our way of being a country of peace and goodwill and instead have been led astray by corrupt leaders with less than honorable intentions, and yet we cannot understand why people want to attack us.
Well said.
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Thanks for posting....excellent read....long, but well worth it.
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Ok so we fucked up by even helping Israel their is no solution! He lives by a code of horror and we as americans can only do one thing and that is find this mother fucker and kill him before he kill's us we need to get the fuck out of iraq and get this guy but it still wont solve the problem some other guy will just take his place so what will happen is america will go broke.

well thats what I got out of what I read?
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