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ThunderBalls 11-18-2004 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ad3pt
Those are definately the words of a madman....furthering my position, being that we give those bastards the strongest, bloodiest, resolve they will ever know.

Your statement sounds like it could have came from a terrorist directed towards the US, which makes you no better than them. And comparing it to bin ladens statement you sound like more of a madman than him.

Webby 11-18-2004 09:01 PM

ThunderBalls:

Quote:

Your statement sounds like it could have came from a terrorist directed towards the US, which makes you no better than them. And comparing it to bin ladens statement you sound like more of a madman than him.
It's just his disease... you gotta excuse him :-)

nmcog 11-18-2004 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by RocHard
The rest of the world will have moved on to alternative fuels.
"We'll find another energy source very soon now"

That's what been said for the past 40years. Same shit different day.

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Originally posted by RocHard
Newflash to the Middle East: In the next thirty years your oil wells will have dryed up, leaving you with nothing.
Been claimed for years. Studies have predicted oil supplies will not start falling UNTIL 2050. USA Today news (2004) reports that there is 40 years of petroleum left in the ground and that is the least of ALL studies.

corvette 11-18-2004 10:16 PM

where did you find this?

Probono 11-18-2004 10:36 PM

I was also wondering about the source, I have not seen a complete translation before. I did read it and was surprised at the eloquence.

He is no fool and not everything he said is wrong. Like any master of propaganda it is a mix of truth and fiction. The interesting weave is the Bush Sr and Jr. I despise GW but that is just propaganda. The attack and others were planned before GW was elected and had nothing to do with him.

The reality is Islamic fundementalism and American economic imperialism are not compatible. There are fundamentalists in all religions and in all religions they are intolerant of others, but they are small minorities.

The unresolved tensions between Israel and arab world are also just a sham for the polarization of the cultures. He is closer to the truth when he discusses oil. As long as we need oil we need to control oil producers.

As long as Arab television shows US troops killing brother arabs there will be no shortage of recruits to carry on suicide bombings.

The only resolution is energy independence, lack of military involvement and trying to educate the youth. The problem is when we and the rest of the world are energy independent the middle east will once again become an economic backwater with a large, uneducated, impoverished population. A breeding ground for terror.

There are no easy solutions for anyone.

nmcog 11-18-2004 10:48 PM

Above poster has a brain and can think for himself. Republicans and Neo-Conservatives, take note, you can't brainwash him.

sixxxthsense 11-18-2004 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by jact
I read every word. Amazing.

sixxxthsense 11-18-2004 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by RocHard
I read it. And I was blown away by it.

Newflash to the Middle East: In the next thirty years your oil wells will have dryed up, leaving you with nothing. The rest of the world will have moved on to alternative fuels. No one will give a shit about the Middle East, and you'll leave this earth poor and empty handed.

The Muslim race is no better than any other race or religion. And if you think otherwise, well, the rest of the world will prove you wrong.

On 9/11 you attacked us, and killed thousands of innocent people. We cannot and will not sit by and allow this to happen. You pissed us off Osama, and look at the end result. We destroyed your oganization and will hunt you and you buddies down until you are all dead.

You shot your entire load on 9/11. The US hasn't begun to strike back yet.

U think Osama reads this BOARD??? what r u talking to your self?

Pornwolf 11-18-2004 10:53 PM

They hate our freedom/We hate their towels.

I say it's an even split.

sixxxthsense 11-18-2004 10:55 PM

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Originally posted by RocHard
"As for it's results, they have been, by the grace of Allah, positive and enormous, and have, by all standards, exceeded all expectations. "

Really? You attacked three buildings, we destroyed two nations. Score: US 2, Osama 0.

"This is in addition to our having experience in using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers, as we, alongside the mujahidin, bled Russia for 10 years, until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat. "

Is that so? You bled Russia for ten years in Afganastan, yet it took us how long to take out the governement in Afaganastan? Two weeks? A month?

Hate to burst your bubble, but there are no virgins waiting for you at the end of the line. Go back to your cave.

damn ur ignorant!
US 2 Osama 0?

what is this a fuckign soccer match?


its peoples lives we are talking about stupid!

sixxxthsense 11-18-2004 10:59 PM

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Originally posted by Jesus H Christ
You all missed the point and the truth. We have been helping Israel for years with their problems. Jews are only 4% of our population and caused 99% of our problems in that part of the world.

So Americans need to ask ..what has Israel done for YOU?

just do what hitler did its so much easier:1orglaugh

sixxxthsense 11-18-2004 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by HKS
Ok so we fucked up by even helping Israel their is no solution! He lives by a code of horror and we as americans can only do one thing and that is find this mother fucker and kill him before he kill's us we need to get the fuck out of iraq and get this guy but it still wont solve the problem some other guy will just take his place so what will happen is america will go broke.

well thats what I got out of what I read?

if you kill'm there will be another

if you stop fucking with their lives they will stop fucking with yours.

sixxxthsense 11-18-2004 11:03 PM

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Originally posted by Ironhorse
Actually he did state that god is on their side whereas we don't even have one. He is wrong about that, I have several on my side myself, all quite opposed to his way of thinking :2 cents:
he didnt say GOD!

bluedevil 11-18-2004 11:05 PM

derka derka


muhammad jihad

sixxxthsense 11-18-2004 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ad3pt
Those are definately the words of a madman....furthering my position, being that we give those bastards the strongest, bloodiest, resolve they will ever know.
How is bush not a mad man? How is he different?


wait you are right,
BUSH is way worse

sixxxthsense 11-18-2004 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chichio
You are 100% right and it pains me to know all of that too. But we can't give up. We have to keep fighting them or we will lose. I feel there will be another attack too and it hangs over us like a dark cloud but we can never give up.

You are right, you can't give up, you're not in controll of your country and there isn't anything you can do, you individuals are not behidn the driver seat! You are all just passangers that will suffer a loss sooner or later cuz those guys don't quit unless you eliminate 100% of them, which we all know is impossible!

Ironhorse 11-18-2004 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Probono
I was also wondering about the source, I have not seen a complete translation before. I did read it and was surprised at the eloquence.

He is no fool and not everything he said is wrong. Like any master of propaganda it is a mix of truth and fiction. The interesting weave is the Bush Sr and Jr. I despise GW but that is just propaganda. The attack and others were planned before GW was elected and had nothing to do with him.

The reality is Islamic fundementalism and American economic imperialism are not compatible. There are fundamentalists in all religions and in all religions they are intolerant of others, but they are small minorities.

The unresolved tensions between Israel and arab world are also just a sham for the polarization of the cultures. He is closer to the truth when he discusses oil. As long as we need oil we need to control oil producers.

As long as Arab television shows US troops killing brother arabs there will be no shortage of recruits to carry on suicide bombings.

The only resolution is energy independence, lack of military involvement and trying to educate the youth. The problem is when we and the rest of the world are energy independent the middle east will once again become an economic backwater with a large, uneducated, impoverished population. A breeding ground for terror.

There are no easy solutions for anyone.

When you look at regional history over last 2000 years you will realize that oil plays a tiny part in the equation. Yes it's a cash crop right now, but conflict in the region has been raging way before oil had the kind of economic significance it does now. This conflict will continue well beyond energy independence from oil. :2 cents:

Probono 11-19-2004 07:04 AM

You are correct in part. The actual tensions between muslim and jews is actually a product of the 20th century. Jews and muslims lived together in harmony throughout most of the past 2000 years. The current situation started after WW2 when palestine was partitioned and no other country in the world wanted the refugees of hitlers extermination camps.

Oil is the ONLY reason the US cares more about the middle east than it does about Rhowanda or Sudan. Our government would be hard pressed to explain the death of one soldier in Sudan and like Rhowanda before it there is a genocide in process. If there was oil we would already have been "educated" as to need to be there with force to protect the indiginous people.

Wake up folks you are programmed in school. Stop and think about the history you are taught.

Manifest Destiny? God's will that all Native American's be exterminated?

Ad3pt 11-19-2004 07:15 AM

150 interpretations.....




Quote:

Originally posted by sixxxthsense
How is bush not a mad man? How is he different?


wait you are right,
BUSH is way worse

At least Bush tried diplomacy. Did osama attempt a peaceful resolution? No. osama just has some issues and the balls to exact revenge...so does the US.

Peacemaker 11-19-2004 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ad3pt
150 interpretations.....






At least Bush tried diplomacy. Did osama attempt a peaceful resolution? No. osama just has some issues and the balls to exact revenge...so does the US.

diplomacy? hmm.. what diplomacy do you mean?

netnut 11-19-2004 08:04 AM

dont be fooled, yes he is a smart man. We should mind our own business, and stay out of other people's/countrie's affairs.

If we didnt meddle in the first place, none of this would of happened.

Peacemaker 11-19-2004 08:12 AM

in 7 words:

"what you give, is what you get"


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