Domains By Proxy WTF????? - GoFuckYourself.com

Paul Waters · 11-16-2004, 01:17 PM

This is the result of a whois for gfe-finder.com:

Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.

15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: GFE-FINDER.COM
Created on: 24-Oct-04
Expires on: 24-Oct-05
Last Updated on: 25-Oct-04

Administrative Contact:
Private, Registration [email protected]
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599
Technical Contact:
Private, Registration [email protected]
Domains by Proxy, Inc.
15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
(480) 624-2599

Domain servers in listed order:
NS64.WEBMASTERS.COM
NS63.WEBMASTERS.COM

Surely his violates ICAAN. The web site is Toronto content.

I want to know who owns the board.

Suggestions, please!

nudecanada · 11-16-2004, 01:48 PM

It looks like he is hosted at www.webmasters.com

Webmasters.com are hosted by Sago networks, www.sagonet.com

The domain cloaking through GoDaddy is not against ICann regulations. A lot of people do that now.

Other than that, good luck finding out who he is unless he is doing something you can subpeona Godaddy, Webmasters.com or Sago Networks for.

You could always set him up to find out more about him. I don't think it would be that hard to do. Hell, just e-mail him for advertising rates, check his IP when he replies and go from there.

What happened? Did he steal your content?

Project-Shadow · 11-16-2004, 01:52 PM

Actually e-mail that account, it should get redirected to hit e-mail box. I know it goes for protectfly.

detoxed · 11-16-2004, 01:53 PM

subpoena

mkx · 11-16-2004, 01:55 PM

I saw that who-is info a few times well searching domains.

Paul Waters · 11-16-2004, 01:58 PM

The site is a bulletin board dealing the escort business.

One of my clients is being libelled, and one of my pics of her was PS'ed in an unflattering manner and posted on the site.

I want to get the name of the poster, invoice them for the use of the image, and take them to small claims court when they don't pay.

The owner of the site is not co-operating.

Paul Waters · 11-16-2004, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Project-Shadow
Actually e-mail that account, it should get redirected to hit e-mail box. I know it goes for protectfly.

And if it is ignored?

I need to have a legal document served on the owner.

Paul Waters · 11-16-2004, 02:00 PM

And, almost certainly, the owner is in Canada, and this domains by proxy is in the US.

nudecanada · 11-16-2004, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul Waters
The site is a bulletin board dealing the escort business.

One of my clients is being libelled, and one of my pics of her was PS'ed in an unflattering manner and posted on the site.

I want to get the name of the poster, invoice them for the use of the image, and take them to small claims court when they don't pay.

The owner of the site is not co-operating.

You're going to have to eek some information out of him then. Pretend you want to buy advertising, where to send the money etc.

You could always get a lawyer, and subpeona his hosting company, ISP, or GoDaddy, but is a photoshopped picture and alleged libel/defamation worth the $1000's and $1000's it would cost?

It probably wouldn't take much to find out who he is. I would lay off of him, let it die, and then use the lure of money and pussy to find out who he is.

nudecanada · 11-16-2004, 02:09 PM

Domains by Proxy IS Godaddy.

All it is is a company that uses "their" whois info in place of "yours". It protects the identity of the domain registrant, although through legal channels you could find out who it is as GoDaddy has the real information.

There is nothing illegal or wrong with what he did with is domain registration. If he did what you said he did to you and your lady friend, now that's wrong.

DomBuyer · 11-16-2004, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nudecanada
Domains by Proxy IS Godaddy.

All it is is a company that uses "their" whois info in place of "yours". It protects the identity of the domain registrant, although through legal channels you could find out who it is as GoDaddy has the real information.

There is nothing illegal or wrong with what he did with is domain registration. If he did what you said he did to you and your lady friend, now that's wrong.

Yea, dbp is just a service, and a good one. Can't blame the service.

Paul Waters · 11-16-2004, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nudecanada
You're going to have to eek some information out of him then. Pretend you want to buy advertising, where to send the money etc.

You could always get a lawyer, and subpeona his hosting company, ISP, or GoDaddy, but is a photoshopped picture and alleged libel/defamation worth the $1000's and $1000's it would cost?

It probably wouldn't take much to find out who he is. I would lay off of him, let it die, and then use the lure of money and pussy to find out who he is.

I am pretty sure the guy who set this up *is* a lawyer. Who gets sexual favours from prostitutes in exchange for helping them *compete*.

He will do everything in his power to make this difficult.

This proxy registrant bullshit is a licence for minor libel and copyright violation.

NoHassleSteve · 11-16-2004, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul Waters
This is the result of a whois for gfe-finder.com:

Registrant:
Domains by Proxy, Inc.

15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160
PMB353
Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
United States
I want to know who owns the board.

Suggestions, please!

http://www.domainsbyproxy.com/LegalAgreement.aspx

If you send something official.. they ask him if he wants it forwarded. They then charge dearly $20 ?? for the service.

If what you send is legal in nature... DBP is supposedly inclined to cough up his information to you if he declines to have it forwarded.

DomBuyer · 11-16-2004, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul Waters
I am pretty sure the guy who set this up *is* a lawyer. Who gets sexual favours from prostitutes in exchange for helping them *compete*.

He will do everything in his power to make this difficult.

This proxy registrant bullshit is a licence for minor libel and copyright violation.

Not true. It's a valuable service in an age where privacy is being totally dismantled.

detoxed · 11-16-2004, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul Waters
I am pretty sure the guy who set this up *is* a lawyer. Who gets sexual favours from prostitutes in exchange for helping them *compete*.

He will do everything in his power to make this difficult.

This proxy registrant bullshit is a licence for minor libel and copyright violation.

Any court can find out his info in 2 seconds. Its not a license for anything except protection against BS. Anyone with enough willpower can have his address in no time.

SmokeyTheBear · 11-16-2004, 02:23 PM

dbp nor godaddy have anything to do with this..

contact his host if you feel you have a case, but i think you dont.

Paul Waters · 11-16-2004, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoHassleSteve
http://www.domainsbyproxy.com/LegalAgreement.aspx

If you send something official.. they ask him if he wants it forwarded. They then charge dearly $20 ?? for the service.

If what you send is legal in nature... DBP is supposedly inclined to cough up his information to you if he declines to have it forwarded.

Thanks for the link. That is valuable.

But if I am going after a *poster* on the bulletin board, and not the owner, there is nothing in the dbp agreement to help me.

The owner has not violated any law, but I need to serve this unknown party with court papers demanding the ip address and isp of the person I am going after.

I need their identity and address to do this.

Paul Waters · 11-16-2004, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by DomBuyer
Not true. It's a valuable service in an age where privacy is being totally dismantled.

I think that if you are operating a public bulletin board, where anyone can post anything and everything, there must be a quick route to accountability.

fris · 11-16-2004, 02:30 PM

it isnt www.terb.ca is it?

Paul Waters · 11-16-2004, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fris
it isnt www.terb.ca is it?

No.

I known the people who run terb.ca

I have issues with them, but I know their real names and addresses so they behave themselves.

In general, I am looking to be able to provide a service to my escort clients whenever they are defamed on any Toronto area bulletin board.

Without a lot of time and money.

http · 11-16-2004, 02:42 PM

And then you want to serve the ISP, to give yout the details of that IP. Forget about it. Not for something minor like your case.

Paul Waters · 11-16-2004, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by http
And then you want to serve the ISP, to give yout the details of that IP. Forget about it. Not for something minor like your case.

You are making my point.

This third party registration is a licence for minor libel and copyright violation.

I think that that is wrong.

detoxed · 11-16-2004, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul Waters
You are making my point.

This third party registration is a licence for minor libel and copyright violation.

I think that that is wrong.

Thats life.

Paul Waters · 11-16-2004, 05:06 PM

Bump.

For other people's thoughts.

11-16-2004, 01:17 PM	#1
Paul Waters Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 4,402	Domains By Proxy WTF????? This is the result of a whois for gfe-finder.com: Registrant: Domains by Proxy, Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160 PMB353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States Registered through: GoDaddy.com (http://www.godaddy.com) Domain Name: GFE-FINDER.COM Created on: 24-Oct-04 Expires on: 24-Oct-05 Last Updated on: 25-Oct-04 Administrative Contact: Private, Registration [email protected] Domains by Proxy, Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160 PMB353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Technical Contact: Private, Registration [email protected] Domains by Proxy, Inc. 15111 N Hayden Rd., Suite 160 PMB353 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Domain servers in listed order: NS64.WEBMASTERS.COM NS63.WEBMASTERS.COM Surely his violates ICAAN. The web site is Toronto content. I want to know who owns the board. Suggestions, please! __________________ Paul

11-16-2004, 01:58 PM	#6
Paul Waters Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 4,402	The site is a bulletin board dealing the escort business. One of my clients is being libelled, and one of my pics of her was PS'ed in an unflattering manner and posted on the site. I want to get the name of the poster, invoice them for the use of the image, and take them to small claims court when they don't pay. The owner of the site is not co-operating. __________________ Paul

11-16-2004, 02:00 PM	#8
Paul Waters Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 4,402	And, almost certainly, the owner is in Canada, and this domains by proxy is in the US. __________________ Paul

11-16-2004, 02:23 PM	#16
SmokeyTheBear ►SouthOfHeaven Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: PlanetEarth MyBoardRank: GerbilMaster My-Penis-Size: extralarge MyWeapon: Computer Posts: 28,609	dbp nor godaddy have anything to do with this.. contact his host if you feel you have a case, but i think you dont. __________________ hatisblack at yahoo.com

11-16-2004, 02:30 PM	#19
fris Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 55,372	it isnt www.terb.ca is it? __________________ Since 1999: 69 Adult Industry awards for Best Hosting Company and professional excellence. WP Stuff

11-16-2004, 01:48 PM	#2
nudecanada Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 793	It looks like he is hosted at www.webmasters.com Webmasters.com are hosted by Sago networks, www.sagonet.com The domain cloaking through GoDaddy is not against ICann regulations. A lot of people do that now. Other than that, good luck finding out who he is unless he is doing something you can subpeona Godaddy, Webmasters.com or Sago Networks for. You could always set him up to find out more about him. I don't think it would be that hard to do. Hell, just e-mail him for advertising rates, check his IP when he replies and go from there. What happened? Did he steal your content?

11-16-2004, 01:52 PM	#3
Project-Shadow Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 7,340	Actually e-mail that account, it should get redirected to hit e-mail box. I know it goes for protectfly.

11-16-2004, 01:53 PM	#4
detoxed vip member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 17,798	subpoena

11-16-2004, 01:55 PM	#5
mkx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,001	I saw that who-is info a few times well searching domains.

11-16-2004, 02:09 PM	#10
nudecanada Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 793	Domains by Proxy IS Godaddy. All it is is a company that uses "their" whois info in place of "yours". It protects the identity of the domain registrant, although through legal channels you could find out who it is as GoDaddy has the real information. There is nothing illegal or wrong with what he did with is domain registration. If he did what you said he did to you and your lady friend, now that's wrong.

11-16-2004, 02:42 PM	#21
http Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,811	And then you want to serve the ISP, to give yout the details of that IP. Forget about it. Not for something minor like your case.

11-16-2004, 05:06 PM	#24
Paul Waters Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 4,402	Bump. For other people's thoughts. __________________ Paul