New Outrage In Florida

[BigDaddy]

Florida Company Bans American Flag
http://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost...usiness_3.html
"On a day of national mourning and prayer, a Boca Raton company had its managers confiscate American flags from employees' cubicles, saying other workers might find them offensive.
NCCI Holdings Inc., a company that compiles workers compensation insurance data, told its 850 Boca Raton employees that displays of nationalism had no place in the office.
"Divisive statements or actions, political or religious discussions and anything else that could be divisive or mean different things to different people are not appropriate in our work environment," Chief Executive Officer Bill Schrempf said Friday in a memo to employees."

Bill's email is [email protected]
His web page is http://www.ncci.com
Their admin email is [email protected]

Every time I think a new low can't be reached I'm proven wrong again.




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[LisaMarie]

no shit?!

if the company is in Florida, it's in the UNITED STATES and SHOULD have a US flag!

the different nationalities and religions working there are still in the UNITED STATES and most likely LIVE there as well



talk about pond scum!

[eRock]

They should be shot!

[Hot Tropical Babes]

I know of a high school girl (son's friend) who was sent home this past week for wearing a t-shirt with the american flag on it. No words or phrases, just the flag. Here in Florida USA

Makes me sick.

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by Hot Tropical Babes:
I know of a high school girl (son's friend) who was sent home this past week for wearing a t-shirt with the american flag on it. No words or phrases, just the flag. Here in Florida USA

Makes me sick.

So they can say the Pledge of Allegiance, but not wear a shirt with the flag... fuckin' hypocritical assholes. That's the type of shit that really pisses me off.

[stangster]

What's up with florida?

Isn't GW's brother the governer there or something?

Are you the kid couldn't wear the flag because it was the flag or was it cause there was a uniform dress code or something.
You know..white top, black bottom.

Sucks anyway..

[Amputate Your Head]

He's been emailed:

"I'm going to keep this short and sweet.

I think you are one seriously low, heartless, piece of shit for banning the American Flag. You don't deserve the freedom that I fought for. Word of your decision is spreading across the Internet like wildfire. I will make damn certain that I never do business with your company, and everyone I can get word of your actions to doesn't either.

Have a nice AMERICAN day."

[tenletters]

What a fucking shame as the company seems like a very nice one to work for... going by some other things in the article.

This, and that school, need to be reported to CNN, or FOX NEWS. Anyone got connections?

[Red7]

Well i would start my on 4th of july at that company and school.

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[TheFLY]

I'm from Boca Raton... It has a very high Indian population... mostly because of FAU.

I think you should all stop bitching -- the American flag is a symbol of freedom and independence! I'm free to wave an American flag AND to NOT wave an American flag... That is a luxury that I am thankful for as an American.

In my opinion, death, misery, and hate is nothing to cheer about. Sorrow and revenge is nothing to be proud of. I'd say it would be fine to fly an American flag if this war was about liberation -- but nobody will be liberated by this war. Whoever said that business owner should be shot -- you sound like a fascist -- not an American. Go Fuck Yourself!

[Amputate Your Head]

Originally posted by TheFLY:
I'm free to wave an American flag AND to NOT wave an American flag...

Too bad that fuck took away his employees right to wave theirs.

He shouldn't be shot... he should be imprisoned. Then he may begin to understand something about freedom.

[BigDaddy]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head:
He's been emailed:

you're doing the Lord's work

Originally posted by tenletters:
This, and that school, need to be reported to CNN, or FOX NEWS. Anyone got connections?

they've got mail -

to: [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ;
[email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ;
[email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ; [email protected] ;
[email protected]

I read with disgust the news of NCCI Inc. punishing employees who display the American flag in this time of our nation's mourning. http://www.gopbi.com/partners/pbpost...usiness_3.html
The woman who accepted being suspended rather than take our flag down should be identified and interviewed. Whoever she is, she is the Rosa Parks of good citizenship. Her willingness to accept financial loss rather than surrender the ideals that led her to support the thousands of American victims, most of whom remained buried in the burning ruins of ground zero even as she was being shown the door, is an example of nobility and simple decency.

I also hope the media will ask Gov. Jeb if Florida will do business with NCCI or with companies that do business with NCCI, until NCCI reconsiders its policy of applying a boot to the face of grieving, patriotic, Americans. <A href="[email protected]">Bill Schrempf's</A> outrageous memo claiming the presence of our flag is divisive and controversial would make sense only from the perspective of the Taliban government or Bin Laden himself. Until <A href="[email protected]">Mr. Schrempf</A> chooses to unsecede from the United States, he should be treated like the cowardly parasite he is, feeding off a nation he hasn't the inclination to support, protect or defend.






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[TheFLY]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head:
Too bad that fuck took away his employees right to wave theirs.

He didn't take away anyone's rights. Those employees can quit and wave their fucking flags all day long. As an employee you don't have a right to display anything in your workplace. The business owner owns the office and everything in it -- if you don't like it then you can get the hell out. Since when is a job something that you have the right to? This is not fucking communism!

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head:

He shouldn't be shot... he should be imprisoned. Then he may begin to understand something about freedom.

I hope you are kidding.

[TheFLY]

[eRock]

I'm pretty sure MOST schools will not even let say "The Pledge Of Allegiance" now days. How pathetic is that!?

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head:

So they can say the Pledge of Allegiance, but not wear a shirt with the flag... fuckin' hypocritical assholes. That's the type of shit that really pisses me off.

[eRock]

I hope he's not!!!

Originally posted by TheFLY:
I hope you are kidding.

[Amputate Your Head]

"On a day of national mourning and prayer, a Boca Raton company had its managers confiscate American flags from employees' cubicles...

Not only on a day of NATIONAL MOURNING, but that asshole had the employees PERSONAL PROPERTY confiscated. Had he tried to confiscate something that belonged to me, and especially on that day, he likely would have ended up with a broken neck.

And no Fly.... I am not fucking kidding.

[BigDaddy]

Originally posted by BigDaddy:

Bill's email is [email protected]
His web page is [URL=http://www.ncci.com]

HOLD ON THERE IS MORE THE NEWSPAPER MISSED!!!!!!!

Bill's web page is also http://ncci.com.sa/

That's ".sa" as in SAUDI ARABIA!

The index page is complete with TOWL HEADS.

That mutherfucker Bill sent home an American employee for having a US flag claiming it "wasn't political" while not mentioning his money comes from the fucking sheiks.

Now it's a new low.

[Amputate Your Head]

He's probably fucking funding Bin Laden's assholes.

[pet]

Originally posted by BigDaddy:
HOLD ON THERE IS MORE THE NEWSPAPER MISSED!!!!!!!

Bill's web page is also http://ncci.com.sa/

That's ".sa" as in SAUDI ARABIA!

The index page is complete with TOWL HEADS.

That mutherfucker Bill sent home an American employee for having a US flag claiming it "wasn't political" while not mentioning his money comes from the fucking sheiks.

Now it's a new low.

Um, BD? Two different companies.
ncci.com = National Council on Compensation Insurance,Inc.
ncci.com.sa = National Company for Cooperative Insurance

I am NOT condoning what the Boca Raton company did, in ANY way. I think it's disgusting. But this is the kind of knee-jerk reaction that starts riots. Do some research before making statements like that.

[pet]

Originally posted by eRock:
I'm pretty sure MOST schools will not even let say "The Pledge Of Allegiance" now days. How pathetic is that!?

eRock, I don't know about where you are, but my children here in So. Calif. say the Pledge of Allegiance every school day, in front of the flag. While I don't know about how mandatory it is, I've never heard if it being banned in any way.

As for the T-shirt thing, there may be other reasons the shirt wasn't allowed. Unless someone was involved personally, I'd suggest not making things worse than they are by speculating wildly.

[-=HUNGRYMAN=-]

HOLD ON EVERYBODY !!!

Upon VERY CLOSE examination of both the NCCI.COM (National Counsel on Compensation Insurance, a PUBLICLY OWNED American company based in Boca Raton, Florida), as well as NCCI.COM.SA (National Company for Cooperative Insurance, a Saudi company based in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia), I have determined that the two companies ARE NOT one in the same !!!

I did extensive WHOIS reports on both domains, as well as Boolean searches on both corporations.

They are two separate companies, (although both in the insurance field), who happen to share the same abbreviation for their company names.

I do not support Mr Schrempf's actions to ban patriotism in the office, but I also do not think that it is fair that his company be misrepresented as the same corporation as the Saudi based one in this thread ...

During this time of grief and anger, is is very easy to jump to conclusions, and to wrongly crucify somebody, as a result of inaccurate information .... This is not right.

Sure ... maybe to some of you, believing that Mr. Schrempf is affiliated with that "towel-head" company would give you the satisfaction of venting some of your bottled up hatred, ... but what if YOU were the one who's company was being confused as been Arab ?!?

Not a very pleasant predicament to be in, is it ???


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[Phil21]

Actually Pete... There is a very big point you missed. Sure it's the companies "right" to tell workers they can't have american flags around, or can't wear pants, whatever. But, is it right? I mean comon.

This is a US company, on US soil, serving (assumedly) US customers. If the company isn't proud to be, (or at least tolerant) part of the US they have no business being here.

Only reason this got press was because of the attacks, but if they banned them any other time I'd be just as pissed. I mean what the fuck, it's an american *FLAG*. It's not a fucking symbol of racism or any other such thing.

It's not a question of whether it's legal or not, it's a question of whether it's RIGHT or not. And it certainly is NOT right.

This same company probably has an american flag flying high in front of it's corporate campus. Blah.

I'm just sick of the political correctedness of this fucking society, and you of all people should be too. I don't get why the hell you're defending this companies actions.

Of course, the replies stating to shoot the CEO are just as lame.

-Phil

[CDSmith]

Originally posted by Phil21:
Of course, the replies stating to shoot the CEO are just as lame.
-Phil

That's right. I think a good old fashioned lynching would be nice for a change

[richard]

The business owner owns the office and everything in it -- if you don't like it then you can get the hell out

here here.

Same with the school uniform.

[DarkJedi]

Originaly posted by The Fly:

...wave their fucking flags...

Proud to be American, aren't ya ?


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[Amputate Your Head]

I'm forwarding some of the emails that have already been written to that fuck, to every single address I've got on my hard drive and suggesting to them they do the same. Congressman, Senators, family, friends, and business contacts. As well and publishing it on a few of my newsie type sites. The CEO of that company is a piece of human shit, no less, and the world should know it.

I'm doing this because this is MY business. I own all the equipment here, the chairs, the desk, the lights, the coffee machine, all the pens and "Post It" pads, as well as the Net connection...

and I'm waving MY FUCKING FLAG.

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[Rivux]

Amp - you never cease to amaze me

[BigDaddy]

Originally posted by pet:
[B] Um, BD? Two different companies.
ncci.com = National Council on Compensation Insurance,Inc.
ncci.com.sa = National Company for Cooperative Insurance
B]

Tracking the relationship of parent companies and publically traded holding companies is a full time job so I'm not sure. But you'll note http://www.ncci.com.sa/ has put up what Nixon used to call a "non-denial denial" where they ask you to go to http://www.ncci.com to complain but don't say they're not associated.

However - the important development is that
---- WE KICKED THEIR BUTTS ------
http://www.gopbi.com/news/special/lo...rror_flag.html

-THE EVIL BASTARDS REVERSED THEIR POLICY -
And put a big 'ole flag on http://www.ncci.com

God I love the Internet.

[Amputate Your Head]

This board doesn't have a smiley big enough to demonstrate the shit-eating grin I've got right now. To everyone that helped email that fucker.... thank you.

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[Amputate Your Head]

"The Post received more than 700 e-mails about the story, and NCCI was forced to shut down its Web site over the weekend because of the onslaught of e-mail.

Earlier today, about five protesters stood outside the company's headquarters on Congress Avenue, handing out small American flags to workers as they came in. "This policy is outrageous," said Mark Hemeon, a picketer from Boca Raton.

By 10 a.m., NCCI officials were handing out flags and red, white and blue ribbons to employees as they reported for work."

[stangster]

That's fucking awesome!

The CITIZENS have spoken! http://www.ncci.com/nccisearch/news/pressrel/flag.htm

wtg amp!

[Jamie]

Damn right!,
If you don't support America, get your ass out of America

[BigDaddy]

Originally posted by Amputate Your Head:
"By 10 a.m., NCCI officials were handing out flags and red, white and blue ribbons to employees as they reported for work."

ROTFL

The last time in history there was a surrender that unconditional it was the Foreign Minister of Japan standing on the deck of the Missouri handing the deed to the Empire to Doug MacArthur.

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[This message has been edited by BigDaddy (edited 09-17-2001).]