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aeon 11-15-2004 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
So I assume you would have absolutely no problem with the summary executions of injured or captured US troops?

After all, the same rules apply to the enemy.

That would be fair and just, right?

Seems to be the way it is. Justified or not, I don't see any or haven't heard of any insurgent POW camps...have you?

theking 11-15-2004 08:27 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
You are tarded aren't you?
The LINKS have ALL READY been listed in this thread idiot child!
:1orglaugh Go back to your bottle & watch some more tv!

As I stated he had not been taken as a POW...other than some article calling them POW's...

"The pool report by NBC correspondent Kevin Sites said the mosque had been used by insurgents to attack U.S. forces, who stormed it and an adjacent building, killing 10 militants and wounding the five.


Sites said the wounded had been left in the mosque for others to pick up and move to the rear for treatment. No reason was given why that had not happened.


A second group of Marines entered the mosque on Saturday after reports it had been reoccupied. Footage from the embedded television crew showed the five still in the mosque, although several appeared to be already close to death, Sites said.


He said one Marine noticed one of the prisoners was still breathing.


A Marine can be heard saying on the pool footage provided to Reuters Television: "He's fucking faking he's dead. He faking he's fucking dead."


"The Marine then raises his rifle and fires into the man's head. The pictures are too graphic for us to broadcast," Sites said. No images of the shooting were shown in the footage provided to Reuters.


The report said the Marine, who had returned to duty after being shot in the face a day earlier, had been removed from the field and was being questioned by the U.S. military."

CET 11-15-2004 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by aeon
Seems to be the way it is. Justified or not, I don't see any or haven't heard of any insurgent POW camps...have you?
Because they don't take prisoners means we shouldn't? Fuck the Geneva conventions, we'll do what these uncivilized barbarians do and justify it by saying things like, "Well they're doing it!"

theking 11-15-2004 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by Sambo
R U for real??
Yes...I am for real...and in fact he and the others had not been taken as POW's.

aeon 11-15-2004 08:31 PM

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Originally posted by theking
As I stated he had not been taken as a POW...other than some article calling them POW's...

"The pool report by NBC correspondent Kevin Sites said the mosque had been used by insurgents to attack U.S. forces, who stormed it and an adjacent building, killing 10 militants and wounding the five.


Sites said the wounded had been left in the mosque for others to pick up and move to the rear for treatment. No reason was given why that had not happened.


A second group of Marines entered the mosque on Saturday after reports it had been reoccupied. Footage from the embedded television crew showed the five still in the mosque, although several appeared to be already close to death, Sites said.


He said one Marine noticed one of the prisoners was still breathing.


A Marine can be heard saying on the pool footage provided to Reuters Television: "He's fucking faking he's dead. He faking he's fucking dead."


"The Marine then raises his rifle and fires into the man's head. The pictures are too graphic for us to broadcast," Sites said. No images of the shooting were shown in the footage provided to Reuters.


The report said the Marine, who had returned to duty after being shot in the face a day earlier, had been removed from the field and was being questioned by the U.S. military."

You really should just shut up. There's a difference between delustional and stupid.

theking 11-15-2004 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by CET
Fuck the Geneva conventions and having any civility, we don't have time to deal with these people. Let's just execute them, even if they are unarmed and wounded. [/sarcasm]
MrPheer is correct...small units do not normally take prisoners unless ordered to do so. In addition in every war since the Geneva Convention all combatants have violated it...for the reasons I stated earlier.

aeon 11-15-2004 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by CET
Because they don't take prisoners means we shouldn't? Fuck the Geneva conventions, we'll do what these uncivilized barbarians do and justify it by saying things like, "Well they're doing it!"
I'm not there...I wasn't there - I have no ability to judge. Obviously you do. You should tell me...what this person should have done?

Centurion 11-15-2004 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by theking
As I stated he had not been taken as a POW...other than some article calling them POW's...


Go back and suck down another bottle of pills will ya already?
Yeah..how dare those REPORTERS WRITE in the article that they WERE PRISONERS! (Noticed you did NOT cut & paste that in did you now asswipe?)

You ALSO left out the LAST entry in that story:

Sites said the shot prisoner "did not appear to be armed or threatening in any way."

You're dismissed Pig Shit!

theking 11-15-2004 08:34 PM

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Originally posted by aeon
You really should just shut up. There's a difference between delustional and stupid.
He and the others had in fact not been taken as POW's...according to the news reports.

Centurion 11-15-2004 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by aeon
You really should just shut up. There's a difference between delustional and stupid.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Centurion 11-15-2004 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by theking
MrPheer is correct...small units do not normally take prisoners unless ordered to do so. In addition in every war since the Geneva Convention all combatants have violated it...for the reasons I stated earlier.
How the fuck would you know?
All you did in the Gulf War was cook potatos back at the barracks!
Friggin loser!

Webby 11-15-2004 08:37 PM

MrPheer:

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You ask all this bullshit, yet you make your judgements from a few seconds of video. I'm willing to make a large wager that the only combat you've ever seen in your life has just been on video.

I get my 'weird ideas' from my own experiences in combat.

Small units, or squad sized groups of soldiers just dont take prisoners. Prisoners have to be properly processed and guarded. These guys clearly do not have time for that. War is not about convenience. And regardless if Iraq didnt declare war, war is what it going on. Did you miss the reports of all the dead soldiers being flown home over the past year?
I am not making any judgements - I was actually granted the sense of sight and use it, - with some balance and rationality of the background in which this took place.

Basically we have a young asshole who has a gun and thinks he can "do anything". Just listen hard to the "verbal" of any group of soliders and you will hear exactly how they will behave under stress.

Since you claim to have been in the military, you should know very well what the general standard of these soldiers is. They are often, as has been said earlier, "kids". They have no clue about fuck all - why should they? On occasion they are often very stupid kids with nada judgement - these are the people the US Admin sends to fight their wars based on lies.

They should not even be near Iraq - but doing something useful with their lives.

The fact that you have served in this military says much and explains your attitude.

Your apparently disregard for prisoners is much as expected and matches the relatively low average quality of US military personnel. Basically solider - keep the fuck outta places you are unable to control and backup with proper safeguards.

One would think that there would be a vague hope ya could, at least, get that bit right - but looks not to be the case.

Did I miss the reports of "all the dead soliders"? No, I am aware, tho never saw much of them being treated too well - but plenty "non photographs" to dull down the US population.

It is a pity ya can't acknowledge reality and have to hide the dead who were the consquence of this mythical war the US Admin decided to embark on.

I'd also mention the many thousands more who died, - you're only concern seems to be with relatively few US soldiers.

Why is the only concern about US soldiers when the US has been the main instigator of "wars" lately where *many* more innocent people have been killed or maimed? Are people in the US that selfish and brainwashed?

Your earlier statement made plenty assumptions about "the way it is", tho not based on any story published so far or anything captured on video. I stand with the reply I gave, - your post was just utter crap and assumption.

A man who shoots a wounded person in the head is a criminal whether he is in some army or a civilian.

Get a fucking balance in your life and quit talking shit.

xenophobic 11-15-2004 08:38 PM

Actually in a longer version of the incident shown on CNN tonight I noticed that when entering the area the Marines asked two questions:

(1) Had the people inside had been shot?
answered: Yes.

(2) Had they been unarmed?
unanswered. (or at least inaudible)

This could be an example of "the fog of war" spoken about, it would seem that the Marine may have believed the prisoners were freshly captured having been shot, and had not been frisked for arms.

No excuses, however I have never seen War, nor my friends killed, or felt the confusion War zones cause, I find it hard to believe a soldier, American or otherwise would execute a person on film unless they felt it was justifiable force.

theking 11-15-2004 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
Go back and suck down another bottle of pills will ya already?
Yeah..how dare those REPORTERS WRITE in the article that they WERE PRISONERS! (Noticed you did NOT cut & paste that in did you now asswipe?)

You ALSO left out the LAST entry in that story:

Sites said the shot prisoner "did not appear to be armed or threatening in any way."

You're dismissed Pig Shit!

I clearly stated that they had not been taken POW's even though a news article called them POW's...and they in fact had not been taken POW's. In addition it was not "Sites" call.

Centurion 11-15-2004 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by theking
He and the others had in fact not been taken as POW's...according to the news reports.
Not to mention that BOTH CBS news & NBC nightly news reported that they WERE prisoners awaiting medical evacuation. But then, they're just NEWS organizations, where you're a guy living in a trailer in the back woods of Oregon who watches a lot of tv.

Natch you would have a lot more credibility! :1orglaugh

xenophobic 11-15-2004 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
How the fuck would you know?
All you did in the Gulf War was cook potatos back at the barracks!
Friggin loser!

What did you do during the Gulf War? The point is he served his country, does not matter the capacity -- can you say the same?

Centurion 11-15-2004 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
What did you do during the Gulf War? The point is he served his country, does not matter the capacity -- can you say the same?
Can you dufus?

theking 11-15-2004 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
How the fuck would you know?
All you did in the Gulf War was cook potatos back at the barracks!
Friggin loser!

I was an E-7 Airborne Infantry PLT SGT. I spent my entire 12 years in the Infantry. Now go get ass fucked by your lover...faggot...because your uncomprehending ass is dismissed by me.

CET 11-15-2004 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by aeon
I'm not there...I wasn't there - I have no ability to judge. Obviously you do. You should tell me...what this person should have done?
He should have taken the guy prisoner along with the rest of the wounded prisoners waiting for a medical evacuation.

Centurion 11-15-2004 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by theking
I was an E-7 Airborne Infantry PLT SGT. I spent my entire 12 years in the Infantry. Now go get ass fucked by your lover...faggot...because your uncomprehending ass is dismissed by me.

Uh..you WISH you had such a background.
Another "fog induced" memory from your booze & pills.

xenophobic 11-15-2004 08:44 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
Can you dufus?
I'm not the one running down someone's service to their country, now am I? faggot.

Webby 11-15-2004 08:45 PM

theKing:

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He and the others had in fact not been taken as POW's...according to the news reports.
STUPID MAN! :1orglaugh

Ya have a good number of people lying all over the place, either dead or wounded, some fighters, some not.

We have a predominence of troops in the area and you expect the injured to crawl up and plead to "be taken as POW's"???

Of course they are prisoners, you silly man!!

If the news you watch says that - they need to slit their throats now cos that ain't no "news report".

You are just a VERY stupid specimen - well below anything that is reasonably expected of military personnel.

theking 11-15-2004 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
Not to mention that BOTH CBS news & NBC nightly news reported that they WERE prisoners awaiting medical evacuation. But then, they're just NEWS organizations, where you're a guy living in a trailer in the back woods of Oregon who watches a lot of tv.

Natch you would have a lot more credibility! :1orglaugh

Their own articles make it abundantly clear that they had not been taken as POW's. They are civilians and apparently do not understand what constitutes taking someone as a POW...and in addition it makes there story more "explotive" when they make the claim that a POW was shot. This is what the media always does. Dismissed again...faggot.

Centurion 11-15-2004 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
I'm not the one running down someone's service to their country, now am I? faggot.
You have to be IN the military before you can run down their service! Support your buddy thekind aka Pathfinder all you want redneck..because his credibility is only better SLIGHTLY than the late Sexpeducation.

And you need to take that dildo out of your ass now clown. 12 hours is long enough.

CET 11-15-2004 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by theking
I was an E-7 Airborne Infantry PLT SGT. I spent my entire 12 years in the Infantry. Now go get ass fucked by your lover...faggot...because your uncomprehending ass is dismissed by me.
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Originally posted by Centurion
Uh..you WISH you had such a background.
Another "fog induced" memory from your booze & pills.

You'd think an E-7 would know SOMETHING about the Geneva conventions and how to uphold them in combat ops.

Centurion 11-15-2004 08:48 PM

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Originally posted by theking
Their own articles make it abundantly clear that they had not been taken as POW's. They are civilians and apparently do not understand what constitutes taking someone as a POW...and in addition it makes there story more "explotive" when they make the claim that a POW was shot. This is what the media always does. Dismissed again...faggot.
Only in your stupor of a mind do they come clear THAT way.
To those with the ability to READ & COMPREHEND they are quite the other way girly boy (faggot? You're the one that says he won't date WOMEN!! God you must be waiting for some bull moose to come up to your trailer to ass fuck you big time tonight eh?:1orglaugh :1orglaugh )

Webby 11-15-2004 08:49 PM

Centurion:

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Originally posted by theking
I was an E-7 Airborne Infantry PLT SGT. I spent my entire 12 years in the Infantry.
That is the evidence King is really dumb.

There is nothing more to say.


PS.. Tho you obviously rate him higher if you allowed him to peel potatoes. I could not trust him to get that right, without some opinion of the potato peelings being in "the best interests of the US".

robfantasy 11-15-2004 08:49 PM

i fucking hate this war..

violence is the result of miscommunication.

Centurion 11-15-2004 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by CET
quote:


You'd think an E-7 would know SOMETHING about the Geneva conventions and how to uphold them in combat ops.

This is at LEAST his second re-incarnation on GFY..he never was in the military..just loves to pretend he was in all his messages.

Webby 11-15-2004 08:50 PM

robfantasy:

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i fucking hate this war..

violence is the result of miscommunication.
Little words but plenty meaning! :thumbsup

You are damned right!

xenophobic 11-15-2004 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
You have to be IN the military before you can run down their service! Support your buddy thekind aka Pathfinder all you want redneck..because his credibility is only better SLIGHTLY than the late Sexpeducation.
And you need to take that dildo out of your ass now clown. 12 hours is long enough.

Who are you to know if he was in the Military or not, You say however he spent his service cooking for the Troops, so did he serve or not? make up your mind.

I am not "supporting" my "buddy", what I am saying however is he is a veteran, and did his time, troops have to eat, who are you to run down his service? and what acts of bravado have you done in war?, other than sitting behind your keyboard running down someone who was there?

Centurion 11-15-2004 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Centurion:



That is the evidence King is really dumb.

There is nothing more to say.


PS.. Tho you obviously rate him higher if you allowed him to peel potatoes. I could not trust him to get that right, without some opinion of the potato peelings being in "the best interests of the US".

He would claim the "eyes" in the potoatos were spying on him. :thumbsup

theking 11-15-2004 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by CET
quote:
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Originally posted by theking
I was an E-7 Airborne Infantry PLT SGT. I spent my entire 12 years in the Infantry. Now go get ass fucked by your lover...faggot...because your uncomprehending ass is dismissed by me.
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You'd think an E-7 would know SOMETHING about the Geneva conventions and how to uphold them in combat ops.

I do. I have not at any point in time indicated that I approve of what the shooter did...but I am satisfied that I know why he did it...and I know that it is not uncommon...and is ordinarily overlooked. I also know that small units do not ordinarily take prisoners at all unless ordered to do so.

Centurion 11-15-2004 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
Who are you to know if he was in the Military or not, You say however he spent his service cooking for the Troops, so did he serve or not? make up your mind.

I am not "supporting" my "buddy", what I am saying however is he is a veteran, and did his time, troops have to eat, who are you to run down his service? and what acts of bravado have you done in war?, other than sitting behind your keyboard running down someone who was there?

Listen to the pot calling the kettle "black" here.
How do you know he WAS in the military? DOH!
You obviously know nothing about this dude's history on here.

Joe Citizen 11-15-2004 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by theking
I also know that small units do not ordinarily take prisoners at all unless ordered to do so.
So small units are expected to conduct summary executions of wounded and surrendering enemy soldiers?

theking 11-15-2004 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
Centurion:



That is the evidence King is really dumb.

There is nothing more to say.


PS.. Tho you obviously rate him higher if you allowed him to peel potatoes. I could not trust him to get that right, without some opinion of the potato peelings being in "the best interests of the US".

FYI...I chose the Infantry...and chose to remain in the Infantry...and loved it.

Webby 11-15-2004 08:55 PM

Centurion:

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He would claim the "eyes" in the potoatos were spying on him. :thumbsup
I was watching these eyes.... yeah, they definately have an evil look ...

Better declare them an ememy of the state :1orglaugh

Wot ya think King?? :winkwink:

theking 11-15-2004 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
This is at LEAST his second re-incarnation on GFY..he never was in the military..just loves to pretend he was in all his messages.
Pig shit...faggot.

xenophobic 11-15-2004 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
Listen to the pot calling the kettle "black" here.
How do you know he WAS in the military? DOH!
You obviously know nothing about this dude's history on here.

Talking of fucking 'duh' I replied to something you had said, in which you claimed all he did in the Military was cook for the troops in the Barracks, NOW you're saying he wasn't even in the Military. I guess in your future threads I'll just assume you're full of bullshit and ignore you.

Centurion 11-15-2004 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
Talking of fucking 'duh' I replied to something you had said, in which you claimed all he did in the Military was cook for the troops in the Barracks, NOW you're saying he wasn't even in the Military. I guess in your future threads I'll just assume you're full of bullshit and ignore you.
The reason I brought up his "cooking" is that I like to play along with his delusions from time to time.

Webby 11-15-2004 08:58 PM

theKing:

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FYI...I chose the Infantry...and chose to remain in the Infantry...and loved it.
Well... there ya go!

That is really interesting King.

It's nice to see people have a meaningful and fulfulling life.

























:uhoh

theking 11-15-2004 08:59 PM

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Originally posted by Joe Citizen
So small units are expected to conduct summary executions of wounded and surrendering enemy soldiers?
In a word...yes...unless ordered to do otherwise. Small units do not have the manpower to take prisoners...and mission is usually more important than lives.

xenophobic 11-15-2004 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
The reason I brought up his "cooking" is that I like to play along with his delusions from time to time.
So, are you saying if you knew for a fact that he was a veteran of the Gulf War, You would not be making fun of his service?

Centurion 11-15-2004 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by xenophobic
So, are you saying if you knew for a fact that he was a veteran of the Gulf War, You would not be making fun of his service?
You are the one that is hung up on his "service". (having initiated his defense as being in the military)
On gfy..people are really only "hung up" on what people posts for the most part..and in this case..that is really the case.

Webby 11-15-2004 09:06 PM

xenophobic:

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Talking of fucking 'duh' I replied to something you had said, in which you claimed all he did in the Military was cook for the troops in the Barracks, NOW you're saying he wasn't even in the Military.
It does not matter one toss what King claims to have been or not.

The simple fact is he is ... I dunno, not qualified to say, - but he is definately a man with some kinda mental disorder.

What sane person always tries to jump to the defense of something that is, in all reasonable human terms, at least questionable or outright insane??

An indicator is the sig - King would bow to the devil if he ran the Whitehouse and defend him to the end.

There is a clear fetish that, in all things, the US is always right. I can't think of one country on this planet that can justify that idealistic claim - but King obviously can.

Is that the action of a sane human being?

xenophobic 11-15-2004 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by Centurion
You are the one that is hung up on his "service". (having initiated his defense as being in the military)
On gfy..people are really only "hung up" on what people posts for the most part..and in this case..that is really the case.

I have z e r o clue what you just said, however I'll just nod and move along.

Joe Citizen 11-15-2004 09:10 PM

The only good thing about war is that the military get killed. This is something worth celebrating.

I cannot conceive of a more vile, detestable worthless example of human life than that of a professional soldier. Someone whose purpose in life is to be a tool of repression and brutality for greedy regimes across the world.

The sooner we remove this scum from the planet the better off the human race will be.

Rawz 11-15-2004 09:11 PM

Only a matter of time before the camera caught something like this . This is not uncommon nor is the most extreme of what goes on over there .

theking 11-15-2004 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by Webby
xenophobic:



It does not matter one toss what King claims to have been or not.

The simple fact is he is ... I dunno, not qualified to say, - but he is definately a man with some kinda mental disorder.

What sane person always tries to jump to the defense of something that is, in all reasonable human terms, at least questionable or outright insane??

An indicator is the sig - King would bow to the devil if he ran the Whitehouse and defend him to the end.

There is a clear fetish that, in all things, the US is always right. I can't think of one country on this planet that can justify that idealistic claim - but King obviously can.

Is that the action of a sane human being?

I defend against the lies and mis-information that is spewed by you and those like you...that for whatever reasons hate America...and that is the sum total of my countries defense.

Webby 11-15-2004 09:11 PM

xenophobic:

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You are the one that is hung up on his "service". (having initiated his defense as being in the military)
On gfy..people are really only "hung up" on what people posts for the most part..and in this case..that is really the case.
This post seems to be in English language.

Is there something that induces an inability to read?

Or is it the logic? In which case, we need to go into the corner and I can translate the logic and help ya :-)


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