You are correct...no fucking clue. It has been reported that Iraqi's have pretended to be wounded/dead to draw our troops in and then have attacked them. It has been reported that Iraqi's have booby trapped their dead so that when moved they will blow up those attempting to move them. When ones life is on the line...one uses their descretion to protect their lives.

In this instance...the troop involved will be duly investigated...with the results being a Courts Martial...or not.

andykidd:

Agree! The basic question hits back to... what the fuck is the US doing there in the first instance?

We have dumped all rational reasons as having nada cred - like WMD and ties with terrorism etc.

Both sides need to fuck off home and leave the locals in peace to sort out their own affairs, - tho hard to do this now, - it's just a total fuckup once again.

theKing:

Can always rely on King to pull some excuses out of the air as justification for *whatever* in his own mind.

Ya wanna see some premeditated execution by US forces?? You soon will.

Quit whining about others as usual.. they have seen/experienced shit and many have loads of good reasons to kill US forces.

Easy answer and the answer will always remain the same...because the Administation...the Congress...and the American people deemed it to be in the perceived best interests of the US. When it is no longer perceived to be in the best interests of the US...there will be a withdrawal.

theKing:

I wondered why every country does not come out with such utter crap to try and justify their actions.

If I was to take that comment seriously.. first response would be - fuck the US Admin and any house of govt there. They are clearly utterly insane.

The truth is... that picture you painted is not accurate and is the product of your pet idiot in power there. What's new?

On a more serious note... I actually would say "fuck US interests" - they have nada cred on this planet and will obviously be returned with the fruit they have sown.

i guess thats one incident where playing possum doesnt work.

No. "Justice."

That is the main reason that the media has no business in there. If you leave that guy there to live and breath and fight another day, he may kill you. If you had a reason to shoot him in the first place. Finish the job with a second bullet.

?

did you read the story at the url given some posts before? reading your comment i think you did not.
read it

How about sawing the head off of a civilian prisoner? Then you're just defending your land against invaders, right?

Yeah, so US troops can get down to the serious business of committing atrocities and war crimes without that pesky media telling the world about it.

That'd be good, wouldn't it?

This is true...although sadly its too late to anything except continue to stay and deal with the mess that the USA caused over there.

Why the USA isn't doing this in the mountains of Afghanistan is beyond me...

so there is no difference between the us army and the rebels?

interesting

http://faculty.washington.edu/kendo/usm10015.jpg
MacArthur's not dead. He's just frozen. He had some good ideas for how to deal with the Chinese. :Graucho

pornguy:

There is a problem with a lack of accountability, - not just in a war zone.

The media at least provides some highly slanted grain of truth of what is happening in eg Iraq. You can't expect those in bed with forces to be "open" with truth, but it is at least, a level of accountability.

The same shit happened in Vietnam, tho it took long enough afterwards to make it palatable for the US people to see, tho the rest of the world were aware.

Forces of any country are expected to adhere to military code, - else what is the point of any code?? Is that yet just another bit of paper you sign and forget?

If so.. hell.. we might as well just nuke each other and fuck any standards of conduct.

Of course there is and I did not imply that they were the same in my post. However, I do find it funny for someone like Webby to speak to us on war crimes when his posts on here very nearly defend the actions of the militants in Iraq who are the ones committing true atrocities against civilians, no less.

Interesting...idiot.

The kid that shot him probably just watched his buddies face shot off and was looking for a little pay back on some sand nigga ass.. Happens all the time.

How dumb can you people be? 9/11 has been a terrorist act, committed by non-Americans on American soil. America has attacked Iraq, despite Iraq having nothing to do with 9/11 and not even having WMD's. So guess, who are the terrorists in Iraq?

fucking war....

i was just asking a question, calling me an idiot for this.. well, if it helps you in any way.. thank you.

You're very welcome. Glad I could educate and interest you. It's the key to our children's success in school: make learning fun.

Martin:

What part of your brain thought up that scenario??

There is no suggestion so far that this was even a possible scenario.

The story so far is that this imbecile arrived on the scene with others and had no clue as to who were "terrorists" or civilians and was made aware the victim was alive and decided to put a bullet in his head.

That honorable US soldier had no clue if that person was innocent or not. He just decided to murder him.

I know who needs their face blown off... tho not even that idiot deserves that.

He is scum.

you do not need to educate me, dont worry.

ich kann zumindest etwas was du niemals koennen wirst ;)

Ahh...but Saddam was a sworn enemy of Americans and of Americas's ally...his military forces fired almost daily upon American and British forces...he openly supported several terrorist orgs allied against America's ally...he openly called for the killing of Americans where ever they were to be found...thus the Administration...with the support of Congress and the American people decided to take him and his Baathist Party down.

And what would that be? Try to mind America's business?

*lol* you are too funny.. good day :)

His assumption is not anymore of a leap than your assumptions. It is you that does not have a clue. You are a sworn enemy of my country...and I would happily turn your face into a oozing mass of goo...scum.

Take it easy there Webber. I'm on your side. I don't like the war one bit.. I just feel like throwing gas on the fire tonight.

just be patient.
after bush gets his new cabinet in place they will start up the draft and you all can go over there and make things right.
you will love it.

Thank you. Now hurry, you might be able to catch Old Europe's fall into complete obsolescence. It's not far off.

maxxxxx:

Yea maxxxxx... you hit that nail on the head with the question..

"How dumb can you people be?"

The answer is EXTREMELY DUMB.



PS.. I wonder who did all the "swearing" to be some enemy? Was that some US idiot you are referring to King or am I to imagine Saddam did some "oaths" and "swearing" to be an enemy of the US.

Hell.. ya got enemies crawling up the walls and under your bed there...

Must be a leftover of communism or something, sure is a disease.

Sorry, I don't get it. Are you just ironic here or do you believe what you say? Where do you get your info from? Foxnews? :1orglaugh

College Park, MD: Even after the final report of Charles Duelfer to Congress saying that Iraq did not have a significant WMD program, 72% of Bush supporters continue to believe that Iraq had actual WMD (47%) or a major program for developing them (25%). Fifty-six percent assume that most experts believe Iraq had actual WMD and 57% also assume, incorrectly, that Duelfer concluded Iraq had at least a major WMD program

:Graucho

Stating fact kid.

Martin:

:thumbsup

At least it might actually make some folks think.

They often have a hard time doing that and knowing there is more to this world that just them :glugglug

Peacemaker:

Frightening thought.... and sad.

I suspect people believe what they want to believe and that this is often "fogged up" in the US by some party political crap and whether you support some party or not.

Looks like there is nada balance on any reality and a great ease with the use of labels for almost any subject, conservative, insurgent, coalition, liberal, terrorist blah. Shit for simple minds and makes it easy to create an "us" and "them" :-)

Hence.. loads of "sworn enemies" :-)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by theking
His assumption is not anymore of a leap than your assumptions. It is you that does not have a clue. You are a sworn enemy of my country...and I would happily turn your face into a oozing mass of goo...scum. [/QUOTE

Its not an assumption...... I just watched the video

Its what happened

The guy laughed when he had done it...... and cracked a joke

Sickening

no comment. the report says it all :)

http://www.yubanet.com/artman/publis...le_14657.shtml

if you want to read more about it

Peacemaker:

Sheesh...

Even if you allow a 20% margin of error, - it's damning! :-)

Hell.. with that level of non-awareness, why bother even chatting with em??

They are past any sane level of reasonable judgement until proven otherwise :winkwink:

I can see why God needs to bless the US a little more than others...

This is perferctly justified.

If he wanted to live, he should have stood aside with his hands up until he was captured.

He could have been holding a gun under there, or worse (but in actuality, none) a bomb with a trigger in his hand.

The soldiers action was correct given the situation.

summary:
http://pvpowa.com/ha.jpg

:flagface :1orglaugh

or maybe a little nuke in his pocket.. who knows ;)

For anyone looking for the video it is on CBSnews.com in the video section under the title "Mosque Tragedy", although they censor the actually shooting.

i agree with you :) but .. you can try.. maybe there is hope :)

But it's perfectly acceptable for them to kidnap someone who's not even in the military and chop off their head?

While I agree that this is wrong, I can only have so much pitty on these guys.

what pisses me off about this whole situation is, this is war. thats why they call it war. I kill you before you kill me. what did people think we were firing out of those guns? candy?

People on CNN talking about it as scandalous and outrageous. Fucking morons. It's war, shit happens, so a camera happened to be there, now the jesus freaks are all up in arms because the moron they voted for would allow soldiers to, oh, god forbid..KILL PEOPLE!


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100 wounded militants...

The operative word here is "prisoner"!
You do NOT execute prisoners.
It IS that simple.