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Odin88 · 11-15-2004, 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
I just finished reading that article ! and it is total BULLSHIT !!

Mohammed B was arrested minutes after the murder , this is just one of the made up stories in this article

anyone getting his info from there thinking this is the truth will vote for Bush

Many many people where arrested with regards to the Murder, and many more questioned - not one individual you idiot. The ring-leader believed responsible for inciting the murder has also disappeared.

LadyMischief · 11-15-2004, 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88
Yes, there are no Muslims in Europe, and their numbers are not growing. Thank God, we are all safe, no need to worry folks.

Good answer, not. There have ALWAYS been a large number of Muslims in Europe... It seems now though that because people have sensationalized and criminalized them in the media, NOW it's becoming an issue. Personally I think all this anti-Muslim crap is just that, crap.

Apparently Christians everywhere have forgotten that their beloved religion is not as squeaky clean as they like to pretend it is.

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
The article said SUSPECTS. I don't think people are anything more than suspects before they are convicted in a court (or maybe they are in your 1984 dystopia?), so therefore the police can go after multiple suspects at one time.

the article said mohammed B was arrested wednesday during the grenade incident wich is not true , he was arrested immediately after the murder

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 07:35 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88
Many many people where arrested with regards to the Murder, and many more questioned - not one individual you idiot. The ring-leader believed responsible for inciting the murder has also disappeared.

the article claims mohammed B was arrested after a nation wide manhunt that ended in an appartement siege ,

this is not true mohammed B was arrested immidiately after the murder

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 07:37 AM

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There are 1 million Muslims (6 percent of the population) now living in Europe's most crowded small country. Some 30,000 new Muslims arrive every year.

not true , there are 900 000 muslims

you can say that is not a huge difference, but it is, it is 10% more

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 07:38 AM

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They tend to live among themselves, with their own schools, mosques and restaurants. Most are horrified by what they view as sacrilegious in their own religion. Their imams speak no Dutch and know nothing of the Netherlands' history and culture.

not true most muslims are very wel integrated in society here

Odin88 · 11-15-2004, 07:38 AM

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au = australian ? ?

what are you then ? you are an immigrant

I am more than happy for the Aboriginal's here to have total sovreignty and dignity. The current idiots simply try to assimilate them into our society, which has resulted in some many issues and troubles it is not funny. I don't support the previous or current policies with regards to Aboriginals for a the exact same reasons I oppose what is happening in Europe.

groark · 11-15-2004, 07:39 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
Good answer, not. There have ALWAYS been a large number of Muslims in Europe... It seems now though that because people have sensationalized and criminalized them in the media, NOW it's becoming an issue. Personally I think all this anti-Muslim crap is just that, crap.

Apparently Christians everywhere have forgotten that their beloved religion is not as squeaky clean as they like to pretend it is.

Good post

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 07:39 AM

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Two years ago, Pim Fortuyn, a populist politician who called for a halt to immigration, by simply saying the Netherlands was "full," was similarly gunned down.

putting the pim fortuyn murder in that article like that ,would make you think he was killed by a muslim , with they obviously want you to believe

once again , NOT TRUE

he was killed by Volkert van der G. a dutch left wing tree huggin loony !

Repetitive Monkey · 11-15-2004, 07:40 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
the article said mohammed B was arrested wednesday during the grenade incident wich is not true , he was arrested immediately after the murder

In your quote, it said only that he also had been among the arrested that day. It didn't say when or where he and his 9 fellow suspects were arrested.

Ten others were arrested, including the prime suspect, a Muhammad Bouyeri, a 26-year-old Dutch Moroccan, who was charged with murder and suspected links to an al Qaeda group.

Odin88 · 11-15-2004, 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief
Good answer, not. There have ALWAYS been a large number of Muslims in Europe... It seems now though that because people have sensationalized and criminalized them in the media, NOW it's becoming an issue. Personally I think all this anti-Muslim crap is just that, crap.

Apparently Christians everywhere have forgotten that their beloved religion is not as squeaky clean as they like to pretend it is.

This isn't even about Christianity, it is a clash between native, traditional culture and peoples, and alien culture, peoples. There is no reason that the native Dutch should be displaced by these peoples, and at current rates that is exactly what is happening.

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 07:42 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88
I am more than happy for the Aboriginal's here to have total sovreignty and dignity. The current idiots simply try to assimilate them into our society, which has resulted in some many issues and troubles it is not funny. I don't support the previous or current policies with regards to Aboriginals for a the exact same reasons I oppose what is happening in Europe.

words my friend, words

why dont you move the fuck out of the land you stole then ? or at least make an effort to give it back to them ? you wont because you dont care about the aboringinals and your views can only be applied there where you like it ,

that is why your views is bullshit

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 07:43 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
In your quote, it said only that he also had been among the arrested that day. It didn't say when or where he and his 9 fellow suspects were arrested.

Ten others were arrested, including the prime suspect, a Muhammad Bouyeri, a 26-year-old Dutch Moroccan, who was charged with murder and suspected links to an al Qaeda group.

well it was not the same day :l) you clearly are talking out of your ass

mohammed B was arrested 11/2 the election day the standoff with the grenade was 11/10

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Goatse · 11-15-2004, 07:45 AM

White separation is the only answer if we want to preserve European civilization. If we lie down and let the outsider take over the nations built by our ancestors, East Asians will eventually rule supreme on this planet for the next several millenia, as they are the only other enlightened race. Then again, some people would actually view this as a good thing.

Repetitive Monkey · 11-15-2004, 07:46 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
well it was not the same day :l) you clearly are talking out of your ass

mohammed B was arrested 11/2 the election day the standoff with the grenade was 11/10

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I didn't mean day, sorry. I meant, "in connection with the criminal act".

I am not talking out of my ass any more than you, certainly. You accused the article of lying about when Mohammed was caught, when in fact it said nothing about it.

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by Goatse
White separation is the only answer if we want to preserve European civilization. If we lie down and let the outsider take over the nations built by our ancestors, East Asians will eventually rule supreme on this planet for the next several millenia, as they are the only other enlightened race. Then again, some people would actually view this as a good thing.

STFU !

Odin88 · 11-15-2004, 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
words my friend, words

why dont you move the fuck out of the land you stole then ? or at least make an effort to give it back to them ? you wont because you dont care about the aboringinals and your views can only be applied there where you like it ,

that is why your views is bullshit

Land is being given back to Aboriginal's quite often you should know though - something I support. It is obvious though that society has gone so far, that only so much can happen from this point to actually give them any hope. T

he point of this whole discussion however is about learning from our mistakes, (which colonial powers have some time ago), and making sure they do not happen again. This also applies to the numerical takeover of Europe however.

Just as I would expect Aboriginals and the world to fight a colonial invasion today (arguably as they did with Iraq - although that is more of an imperialist invasion rather than a colonial takeover), I would expect them to also oppose such displacement of native populations as is the case in Europe today.

Repetitive Monkey · 11-15-2004, 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by Goatse
White separation is the only answer if we want to preserve European civilization. If we lie down and let the outsider take over the nations built by our ancestors, East Asians will eventually rule supreme on this planet for the next several millenia, as they are the only other enlightened race. Then again, some people would actually view this as a good thing.

Goatse, can you contact me on ICQ or through e-mail? My ICQ number is in my profile, and my e-mail address is acyon(A.-T)acyon(D0T)com

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
I didn't mean day, sorry. I meant, "in connection with the criminal act".

I am not talking out of my ass any more than you, certainly. You accused the article of lying about when Mohammed was caught, when in fact it said nothing about it.

I live in holland you dont

yeah you fucked up , NOT you are wrong the article is wrong yet you defend it

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Dutch security authorities launched a nationwide manhunt for the murderer of the popular Van Gogh. A hand grenade injured four policemen as they went after two suspects in a working-class district of The Hague. Air space over the capital was closed for a day as Dutch Special Forces lay siege to a building and the two surrendered after a 14-hour standoff.
Ten others were arrested, including the prime suspect, a Muhammad Bouyeri, a 26-year-old Dutch Moroccan, who was charged with murder and suspected links to an al Qaeda group. A two-time visitor to Saudi Arabia, he had doffed Western clothes in favor of Arab dress.

Read this,... think ...., what does this article want you to believe/ what is anyone readint this going to think ? ?

Repetitive Monkey · 11-15-2004, 07:53 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
I live in holland you dont

yeah you fucked up , NOT you are wrong the article is wrong yet you defend it

Read this,... think ...., what does this article want you to believe/ what is anyone readint this going to think ? ?

Are you a schizo? Because the article clearly says that "other suspects" also were apprehended. It doesn't say anything about when these "other" suspects were taken in.

Odin88 · 11-15-2004, 07:56 AM

You are an idiot. You claim this passage:

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Dutch security authorities launched a nationwide manhunt for the murderer of the popular Van Gogh. A hand grenade injured four policemen as they went after two suspects in a working-class district of The Hague. Air space over the capital was closed for a day as Dutch Special Forces lay siege to a building and the two surrendered after a 14-hour standoff.

Ten others were arrested, including the prime suspect, a Muhammad Bouyeri, a 26-year-old Dutch Moroccan, who was charged with murder and suspected links to an al Qaeda group. A two-time visitor to Saudi Arabia, he had doffed Western clothes in favor of Arab dress.

"claims mohammed B was arrested after a nation wide manhunt that ended in an appartement siege" (your words).

The passage does nothing of the sort, and unless your English is clearly imparied you would realise this. The chronology of the article may not be perfect, but it certainly certainly does not suggest what you claim it does. Only an idiot would think that those two passages (i.e. the one re: the two suspects and the grenade, and the one regarding Muhammad Bouyeri) where talking about the same instance.

It clearly says, AFTER talking about those 2 suspects that "Ten others were arrested, including the prime suspect, a Muhammad Bouyeri". It doesn't even suggest that it was in the same instance, nor would any reasonable person assume it to be the case. It simply claims that a total of X amount of people have been arrested in connection to the crime - that is it.

JamesK2 · 11-15-2004, 07:58 AM

muslims are fucked

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 07:59 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88
You are an idiot. You claim this passage:

"claims mohammed B was arrested after a nation wide manhunt that ended in an appartement siege" (your words).

The passage does nothing of the sort, and unless your English is clearly imparied you would realise this. The chronology of the article may not be perfect, but it certainly certainly does not suggest what you claim it does. Only an idiot would think that those two passages (i.e. the one re: the two suspects and the grenade, and the one regarding Muhammad Bouyeri) where talking about the same instance.

It clearly says, AFTER talking about those 2 suspects that "Ten others were arrested, including the prime suspect, a Muhammad Bouyeri". It doesn't even suggest that it was in the same instance, nor would any reasonable person assume it to be the case. It simply claims that a total of X amount of people have been arrested in connection to the crime - that is it.

I copy en pasted it to two other dutch webmasters, the both said the same ,

the article wants you to believe that Mohammed B was arrested during the standoff with the grenade, wich is just not true

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 08:01 AM

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Two years ago, Pim Fortuyn, a populist politician who called for a halt to immigration, by simply saying the Netherlands was "full," was similarly gunned down.

and what about this passage then Odin ?

the entire article is about muslims , and in the middle of it you find that ,

hmm, does the article want you to believe he was killed by muslims ? ?

NO WAY !

Odin88 · 11-15-2004, 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
I copy en pasted it to two other dutch webmasters, the both said the same ,

the article wants you to believe that Mohammed B was arrested during the standoff with the grenade, wich is just not true

Copy it to an English speaking webmaster. Believe whatever you will about the article, but it certainly does not suggest that. That is a clear misinterpretation on your part.

Odin88 · 11-15-2004, 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
and what about this passage then Odin ?

the entire article is about muslims , and in the middle of it you find that ,

hmm, does the article want you to believe he was killed by muslims ? ?

NO WAY !

Wow, bias in journalism? Never. I mean, the BBC is totally fair right? So is Fox News? Get a grip. It may suggest something, but to lie is a totally different thing. The facts and figures stated in this article are correctr, and they are the topic of discussion, because they are the true indicator (and not simply a murder) or the true future of Holland.

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 08:06 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88
Wow, bias in journalism? Never. I mean, the BBC is totally fair right? So is Fox News? Get a grip. It may suggest something, but to lie is a totally different thing. The facts and figures stated in this article are correctr, and they are the topic of discussion, because they are the true indicator (and not simply a murder) or the true future of Holland.

no they are not , their facts claim there are 1 000 000 muslims living here

all offical stats say that it is 900 000

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 08:07 AM

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Originally posted by Odin88
Copy it to an English speaking webmaster. Believe whatever you will about the article, but it certainly does not suggest that. That is a clear misinterpretation on your part.

lol, you are full of crap

Mr Dickovitch · 11-15-2004, 08:13 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
You just said that stopping or reversing immigration will raise terrorism. That's the most stupid thing I have heard this week. We wouldn't have terrorism if multicult morons like you did not step over other peoples' boundaries under the guise of some completely and utterly meaningless brainwash ideology that really is just one big contradiction.

If we all mix, we will end up as one people and one race in the end. That is not diversity.

If we respected eachothers rights to exist and prosper in peace, we would have true diversity, and what do you know, terrorism would be an alien concept.

But you failed to answer my question. Why is racial chaos only enforced on white countries?

It is because of that bastard Hitler. He ruined it for everyone.

Odin88 · 11-15-2004, 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
lol, you are full of crap

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=paragraph

Repetitive Monkey · 11-15-2004, 08:14 AM

At this point Fake Nick is using unjustified claims and even misconceptions and lies to demonstrate that therefore muslims have some kind of claim to Europe, so I don't think you should take notice of him any more, Odin. He's an obvious troll with nothing to say.

fr33s3x · 11-15-2004, 08:16 AM

so what ?

Repetitive Monkey · 11-15-2004, 08:17 AM

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Originally posted by Mr Dickovitch
It is because of that bastard Hitler. He ruined it for everyone.

By marginalizing, invading, outbreeding, and even oppressing whites as per the current trends, Hitler-like leaders will soon be needed again in order for our survival to be ensured. What do you think about that?

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 08:20 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
At this point Fake Nick is using unjustified claims and even misconceptions and lies to demonstrate that therefore muslims have some kind of claim to Europe, so I don't think you should take notice of him any more, Odin. He's an obvious troll with nothing to say.

what claims I made are false then ?

none are , the article on the other hand filled with it

And where did I sugges muslims should be ruling Europe ? ? I only am saying that article is bullshit , total fuckin bullshit !

Repetitive Monkey · 11-15-2004, 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
lol ! what claims I made are false then ?

none are , the article on the other hand filled with it

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 08:24 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey

yeah I am trolling here, NOT

that article is bullshit , nothing in there are facts but all utter lies

JamesK2 · 11-15-2004, 08:31 AM

but not all

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 08:31 AM

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Islamist extremists even penetrated the Dutch intelligence service with a double agent. One officer was arrested last September. The government hastily drafted a Patriot Act-like law which enables it to strip citizens of their citizenship and deport them if they engage in extremist acts.

how about this then odin and repetetive monkey

there was in fact someone arrested at the AIVD but there was NO NEW LAW after this incident , again LIES

this in your believe is a fact, can you provide some evidence for this ? ? this never happened yet if I am to believe you this is a fact

JamesK2 · 11-15-2004, 08:32 AM

you guys

Repetitive Monkey · 11-15-2004, 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
how about this then odin and repetetive monkey

there was in fact someone arrested at the AIVD but there was NO NEW LAW after this incident , again LIES

this in your believe is a fact, can you provide some evidence for this ? ? this never happened yet if I am to believe you this is a fact

What the fuck are you talking about, shitbrain? Go back to the hospital and stop it with the unfounded accusations already. It is libel.

davidd · 11-15-2004, 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by Lev
The whole Europe is infected

It is their own fault.

They are so concerned with keeping the cradle to grave benefits in place, so they they dillute their societies with anyone that will come. All to support the Ponzi scheme, known as socialism. The Netherlands and France being the worst offenders.

Before the Europeans start arguing with me, I spend A LOT of my time in Europe. I know the deal, my friends.

-dd

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 08:37 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
What the fuck are you talking about, shitbrain? Go back to the hospital and stop it with the unfounded accusations already. It is libel.

hmm, no real anwser ,

I am talking about how they claim in that article that a new patriot act like law was created after the incident with the AIVD ( AIVD =mthe Dutch intelligence service, in case you didnt know)

this never happened no new law was created, yet this article in your believe filled with facts presents this as a fact

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Islamist extremists even penetrated the Dutch intelligence service with a double agent. One officer was arrested last September. The government hastily drafted a Patriot Act-like law which enables it to strip citizens of their citizenship and deport them if they engage in extremist acts.

davidd · 11-15-2004, 08:40 AM

An addendum to my last post...

This is why New Europe with throttle past 'Old Europe', with a couple exceptions.

Visit Austria (Old Europe Exception), Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Hungary in particular. Look around, you will see that shit is still the way it should be.

-dd

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 08:42 AM

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Originally posted by davidd
An addendum to my last post...

This is why New Europe with throttle past 'Old Europe', with a couple exceptions.

Visit Austria (Old Europe Exception), Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Hungary in particular. Look around, you will see that shit is still the way it should be.

-dd

lol

, hi tourist

you once visited europe with your backpack , this does not give you a good view on the current situation here

there are much more muslims in the USA than in Europe

jigg · 11-15-2004, 08:45 AM

when muslims start to feel empowered by their numbers you'll see what's going to start happening.

they'll be demanding anything and everything they don't like and don't agree with and see as sinful

they don't want to assimilate the culture of the Netherlands but will demand to have their culture assimilated BY the Netherlands

At one point in Bulgaria, Turkey and other muslims wanted to make teaching the Quran in schools mandatory class and over there if you dont pass a class with a least a D you don't pass the grade.

Not to mention all the inequality between men and women

Anyone who strays away from the Quran and muslim teachings is immediately labeled a traitor, and it's not uncommon for calls he or she be killed for shaming the religion. It happens even today, a lot.

Dalai lama · 11-15-2004, 08:48 AM

I love holland

Repetitive Monkey · 11-15-2004, 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
hmm, no real anwser ,

I am talking about how they claim in that article that a new patriot act like law was created after the incident with the AIVD ( AIVD =mthe Dutch intelligence service, in case you didnt know)

this never happened no new law was created, yet this article in your believe filled with facts presents this as a fact

I did answer, you numbnut. My answer was that you made a ridiculous and false accusation. I therefore do not answer to the accusation. I do not believe that all of what the article says is fact, nor do I believe that it is all lies. I don't know everything, and I don't care. All I believe in is that Europe is going to be buttfucked unless we fight it.

Now stop the libel, and use your normal nick, you pussy.

Dalai lama · 11-15-2004, 08:55 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
I did answer, you numbnut. My answer was that you made a ridiculous and false accusation. I therefore do not answer to the accusation. I do not believe that all of what the article says is fact, nor do I believe that it is all lies. I don't know everything, and I don't care. All I believe in is that Europe is going to be buttfucked unless we fight it.

Now stop the libel, and use your normal nick, you pussy.

You dont know anything about the situation here.

Fake Nick · 11-15-2004, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by Repetitive Monkey
I did answer, you numbnut. My answer was that you made a ridiculous and false accusation. I therefore do not answer to the accusation. I do not believe that all of what the article says is fact, nor do I believe that it is all lies. I don't know everything, and I don't care. All I believe in is that Europe is going to be buttfucked unless we fight it.

Now stop the libel, and use your normal nick, you pussy.

STFU bich if I were to use my "real nick" you would be scared shitless right now

the situation in Europ is ten times better than the situation in the USA , start with your own backyard first , then if you have time left ( wich I doubt) you then can friendly suggest you feel like cutting our grass

davidd · 11-15-2004, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
lol

, hi tourist

you once visited europe with your backpack , this does not give you a good view on the current situation here

there are much more muslims in the USA than in Europe

Backpack?

My friend anytime you want to compare passports let me know. I am in Europe for 10 days of each month.

The muslims in the USA are centralized and they have no power here. We also allow our citizens the right to own guns, so if they get out hand we know what to do.

We have proven over and over again, we know how to kill and kill well.

-dd

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