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AmateurFlix · 11-14-2004, 10:21 AM

No I'm not boycotting ccbill but I need to diversify a bit after last week's mess; 800k pageviews in 4 days with 4 sales... fuck that.

I'm looking for teen and single girl sites that could be promoted effectively with softcore content. No ccbill payment processing, at least not as the primary.

Leave your ref code & I'll sign up with it if I like the sites.

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andrej_NDC · 11-14-2004, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by AmateurFlix
800k pageviews in 4 days with 4 sales... fuck that.

dont tell me, thats ccbill fault, please...eihter you are promoting bad sites or have bad marketing. Paycom isnt much better with scrubbing and if you touch other processors, your diversify can end very sad...

AmateurFlix · 11-14-2004, 12:14 PM

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Originally posted by andrej_NDC
dont tell me, thats ccbill fault, please...eihter you are promoting bad sites or have bad marketing.

Yeah as you say it must be bad sites I've always done well with before such as Mashaworld, GroupSexVirgins, IFuckThem, Teenflood, TeenKarma, with galleries like these:

http://www.sexvideocontent.com/tgp/t...rteenphoto.htm
http://www.amateur-teen-sex-page.com...cs12/karma.htm
http://www.teen-porn-movie.com/tgp/s...0/strap-on.htm
http://www.sexvideocontent.com/tgp/m...ensexphoto.htm

I suppose you also think it just so happened that my clickthrough's dropped to about 25% of normal during this time period and my ratio of pageviews to sales also dropped to about 25% of normal. That was just a coincidence and had nothing to do with ccbill's tracking abilities.

And CCBill admittedly lost track of inserting affiliate codes in their join pages during this time but somehow that's my poor marketing.

These sites are great. The payment processor fucked up and lost the ability to track sales. In the meatime other programs I promoted with cascading processors were approximately normal or better.

But according to you the sites are bad or the marketing is bad. Get a clue dude.

Everyone else, thanks for the referrals some of these sites look like they might work well.

andrej_NDC · 11-14-2004, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by AmateurFlix
Yeah as you say it must be bad sites I've always done well with before such as Mashaworld, GroupSexVirgins, IFuckThem, Teenflood, TeenKarma, with galleries like these:

http://www.sexvideocontent.com/tgp/t...rteenphoto.htm
http://www.amateur-teen-sex-page.com...cs12/karma.htm
http://www.teen-porn-movie.com/tgp/s...0/strap-on.htm
http://www.sexvideocontent.com/tgp/m...ensexphoto.htm

I suppose you also think it just so happened that my clickthrough's dropped to about 25% of normal during this time period and my ratio of pageviews to sales also dropped to about 25% of normal. That was just a coincidence and had nothing to do with ccbill's tracking abilities.

And CCBill admittedly lost track of inserting affiliate codes in their join pages during this time but somehow that's my poor marketing.

These sites are great. The payment processor fucked up and lost the ability to track sales. In the meatime other programs I promoted with cascading processors were approximately normal or better.

But according to you the sites are bad or the marketing is bad. Get a clue dude.

Everyone else, thanks for the referrals some of these sites look like they might work well.

those 800k page views are raw gallery views? If yes, how many uniques did you send to the paysites?

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AmateurFlix · 11-14-2004, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by andrej_NDC
those 800k page views are raw gallery views? If yes, how many uniques did you send to the paysites?

Yes, those were raw gallery views from teen and general tgp traffic. Not a bunch of foreign traffic either, mostly from big name tgp's.

The vast majority of that traffic was for teenflood and teenkarma sites. If ccbill is to be believed, I only sent 10,267 hits to paysites from that traffic. Normally I get a better CTR than that though.

Even going by that number from ccbill, that means I'm only converting at about 1:2500 for these programs. Typically I get about 1:1000 for dieselaction, not the best but it's steady, and more like 1:650 from teenflood

I'm not the best in marketing but I don't think there's much wrong with those pages I linked above, and this is WAY out of whack with what I normally get from these programs.

andrej_NDC · 11-14-2004, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by AmateurFlix
Yes, those were raw gallery views from teen and general tgp traffic. Not a bunch of foreign traffic either, mostly from big name tgp's.

The vast majority of that traffic was for teenflood and teenkarma sites. If ccbill is to be believed, I only sent 10,267 hits to paysites from that traffic. Normally I get a better CTR than that though.

Even going by that number from ccbill, that means I'm only converting at about 1:2500 for these programs. Typically I get about 1:1000 for dieselaction, not the best but it's steady, and more like 1:650 from teenflood

I'm not the best in marketing but I don't think there's much wrong with those pages I linked above, and this is WAY out of whack with what I normally get from these programs.

Lets say 800k raw is 600k uniques, so with a good marketing you should get 60k paysite visitors of it. Up to 90k. Even with 1:2500, that would mean 24-36 sales. Your CTR on those galleries is too low, 1.5%, even for a free listing its too low. It should be at least 3-5%, on paid spots 10-15%. Check your galleries again, when I did, I didnt see them as a paysite promo, more like a bunch of free pics. The surfer has to know within few seconds what do you promote. What type of site...and you have to make him horny....

AmateurFlix · 11-14-2004, 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by andrej_NDC
Lets say 800k raw is 600k uniques, so with a good marketing you should get 60k paysite visitors of it. Up to 90k. Even with 1:2500, that would mean 24-36 sales. Your CTR on those galleries is too low, 1.5%, even for a free listing its too low. It should be at least 3-5%, on paid spots 10-15%. Check your galleries again, when I did, I didnt see them as a paysite promo, more like a bunch of free pics. The surfer has to know within few seconds what do you promote. What type of site...and you have to make him horny....

Like I'm saying though, the CTR is usually much better than that for galleries with this same layout. So comparing the results from that 4 day period to previous, this is just not in line with what I'd been getting before. And that still doesn't explain the drop in 1st page hits to sales ratio. Today it seems back to normal, with the same galleries that I used as examples here.

I am curious what more you think could be done to help with CTR though specifically, maybe I'm missing something but the only thing that would stand more to me would be a lot more text or putting a banner above the first row of thumbs.

andrej_NDC · 11-14-2004, 01:39 PM

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Originally posted by AmateurFlix
Like I'm saying though, the CTR is usually much better than that for galleries with this same layout. So comparing the results from that 4 day period to previous, this is just not in line with what I'd been getting before. And that still doesn't explain the drop in 1st page hits to sales ratio. Today it seems back to normal, with the same galleries that I used as examples here.

I am curious what more you think could be done to help with CTR though specifically, maybe I'm missing something but the only thing that would stand more to me would be a lot more text or putting a banner above the first row of thumbs.

I will show you some galls with 10%+ CTR, hit me up 146145222

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