Police use Stun Gun on 6 year old boy - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

Rich · 11-12-2004, 02:13 PM

Edit, 50 parents who would dope up their kid and thank the cops for electrocuting him.

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Originally posted by Pete
Pretty fucked up kid.

Pretty fucked up society.

Hard to blame a 6 year old for the way he acts when he has mind altering drugs pushed down his throat. You think it's a coincidence that every school shooter has been on an anti-depressant? Everyone's just lucky this poor kid didn't open his throat and kill himself, like thousands of others do every year because of this shit.

Hopefully they'll up his dosage.

kane · 11-12-2004, 02:13 PM

first off I love how all the GFY doctors already have the kid as a psycho who's hopped up on some kind of ritalin or something.

second. this is a very short article, none of us were there so it's hard to say what the situation was. But here is a telling quote from the article

" When two Miami-Dade County police officers and a school officer arrived, the boy had already cut himself under his eye and on his hand.

The officers talked to the boy without success. When the boy cut his own leg, one officer shocked him with a Taser and another grabbed him to prevent him from falling, police said."

so the kid had a shard of glass and had already cut himself twice, once under the eye. Then when they talk to him he cuts his own leg. so what do you suggest? Charge the kid to subdue him and let him jam the glass in his eye, or slice his wrist or neck or something? Clearly the kid was willing to hurt himself so if it's me I have no reason to belive he will not do it again.

Yes the tazer does kill people. But that is very rare. I would say shocking the kid with a tazer was less dangerous to the kid than trying to wrestle away a sharp piece of glass from him while he proceeds to cut himself and maybe you up.

It's a tough call, but the cops made the right call.

Rich · 11-12-2004, 02:15 PM

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Originally posted by kane
first off I love how all the GFY doctors already have the kid as a psycho who's hopped up on some kind of ritalin or something.

lol

Who's taking bets?

volante · 11-12-2004, 02:19 PM

"We're police officers! We're not trained to handle this kind of violence!"

Michaelious · 11-12-2004, 02:22 PM

That is one fucked up news story...

kane · 11-12-2004, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
You're right that is the parent's fault, and the doctors/nurses that hand out untested drugs to 3 million American kids every day.

Send your 6 year old with a piece of glass after me wearing gloves, and I'll get it away from him without a weapon. Any cop should be able to do the same thing. Unless he has a loaded handgun pointed at the cops, there's absolutely no reason to use a taser on a 6 year old. Cops take down drug addicts with knives, they should be able to handle a kid. Tasers kill adults, and they're not tested on kids. Those cops should be fired today.

Seriously, if you think this is normal policing, stop watching TV for 6 months. You'll see things differently.

some of my best friends are cops and you are right, they do take out drug addicts with knives. Do you know how? With an asp metal baton and pepper spray. I know this is how it works because I am often the bad guy in thier training. Most often, if you have a knife, you are coming at a cop and you will not stop he will stop with bullets to your chest. the people I work with are trained that it is department policiy if someone comes at you with a knife, you shoot him. If there are several of you around and you have the option, then maybe you break out the pepper spray and asp and take the guy alive.

stocktrader23 · 11-12-2004, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by kane
some of my best friends are cops and you are right, they do take out drug addicts with knives. Do you know how? With an asp metal baton and pepper spray. I know this is how it works because I am often the bad guy in thier training. Most often, if you have a knife, you are coming at a cop and you will not stop he will stop with bullets to your chest. the people I work with are trained that it is department policiy if someone comes at you with a knife, you shoot him. If there are several of you around and you have the option, then maybe you break out the pepper spray and asp and take the guy alive.

The cops I know say they would rather someone have a gun than a knife.

Rich · 11-12-2004, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by kane
some of my best friends are cops and you are right, they do take out drug addicts with knives. Do you know how? With an asp metal baton and pepper spray. I know this is how it works because I am often the bad guy in thier training. Most often, if you have a knife, you are coming at a cop and you will not stop he will stop with bullets to your chest. the people I work with are trained that it is department policiy if someone comes at you with a knife, you shoot him. If there are several of you around and you have the option, then maybe you break out the pepper spray and asp and take the guy alive.

I didn't say it's policy to take down adults with knives without a weapon, I said they can do it. They're trained how to do it in case they have to. It should be policy to disarm a 6 year old with a piece of glass without a stun gun.

Kimmykim · 11-12-2004, 02:32 PM

What a crock of shit. The public school system in the States is totally fucked up, and this kind of thing just makes it worse.

The kid was 6 for Chrissakes. I could take down a half dozen of them myself, if they all had knives.

It's not rocket science.

kane · 11-12-2004, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
I didn't say it's policy to take down adults with knives without a weapon, I said they can do it. They're trained how to do it in case they have to. It should be policy to disarm a 6 year old with a piece of glass without a stun gun.

I would agree ( and I think many cops would agree ) that if at all possible you take down the kid without the stun gun, but earlier you were saying they should be fried for not doing this. all I'm saying is that in the moment, and none of us were there, they did what they thought was best. I have a 7 year old niece and some of my friends have kids in that age group and I wrestle with them all the time and if one of them is holding something that they don't want me to have, it's going to be a real pain in my ass to get it away from them. I just think the chances are that the kid would have done more harm to himself if they would have tried to wrestle it away from him.

Rich · 11-12-2004, 02:37 PM

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Originally posted by kane
I would agree ( and I think many cops would agree ) that if at all possible you take down the kid without the stun gun, but earlier you were saying they should be fried for not doing this. all I'm saying is that in the moment, and none of us were there, they did what they thought was best. I have a 7 year old niece and some of my friends have kids in that age group and I wrestle with them all the time and if one of them is holding something that they don't want me to have, it's going to be a real pain in my ass to get it away from them. I just think the chances are that the kid would have done more harm to himself if they would have tried to wrestle it away from him.

You can't grab a 6 year old's wrist so he can't do anything with what's in his hand?

scoreman · 11-12-2004, 02:44 PM

kane · 11-12-2004, 02:49 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
You can't grab a 6 year old's wrist so he can't do anything with what's in his hand?

the only thing I can say, again, is that none of us were there. What if the kid was 6-8 feet away, you're going to have to take 1-2 steps to grab his hand. What if his hand, with the glass is pointed at his neck? Even if he's not pointing it at his nec and he's holding the glass, you take a step or two to grab his hand he turns away from you and grabs the glass with both hands. Now the wrestling match is on.

It's easy to judge someone or something when you aren't there, didn't see it, and don't know all the facts.

I'm not saying that they couldn't have goen about it another way. I also know that some cops are assholes and lazy and might do something like this just because it was the easy way out. I'm just saying, it's a little reactionary to call for them to be fired or fried or beaten when you aren't there to see it for yourself. Nowhere in that article does is say anything about the people at the school saying it was excessive. maybe more facts of the case will come out in the future.

Fred Quimby · 11-12-2004, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by FilthyRob
Some people are born crazy. Chemical imbalances and things of that nature.

this board is living proof

Rich · 11-12-2004, 02:52 PM

If I said fried I meant fired, it was a typo.

kane · 11-12-2004, 03:03 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
If I said fried I meant fired, it was a typo.

cool, I do the same often myself

Phoenix · 11-12-2004, 03:11 PM

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Originally posted by kane
the only thing I can say, again, is that none of us were there. What if the kid was 6-8 feet away, you're going to have to take 1-2 steps to grab his hand. What if his hand, with the glass is pointed at his neck? Even if he's not pointing it at his nec and he's holding the glass, you take a step or two to grab his hand he turns away from you and grabs the glass with both hands. Now the wrestling match is on.

It's easy to judge someone or something when you aren't there, didn't see it, and don't know all the facts.

I'm not saying that they couldn't have goen about it another way. I also know that some cops are assholes and lazy and might do something like this just because it was the easy way out. I'm just saying, it's a little reactionary to call for them to be fired or fried or beaten when you aren't there to see it for yourself. Nowhere in that article does is say anything about the people at the school saying it was excessive. maybe more facts of the case will come out in the future.

i can see your point...too bad others with your views cant get their points out the same way

Jakke PNG · 11-12-2004, 03:27 PM

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Originally posted by Phoenix
okay im an idiot..but you condone stunning 6 yr olds.

any cop who cant control a 6 yr old has no business being a cop...im going to type slower from now on as you are all fuckin morons

The cops aren't child psychologists, they're tought to fight and subdue suspects with force.
Say the cop(s) didn't have children, or have never handled kids. How should he know how fast they can move, what they think, how hard you can grab their hand before a bone breaks etc. I for one couldn't talk to a kid into surrendering. I'd just yell at the little bastard (then stun him and call it a day).

As far as I can tell the cops used the stunner to save the kid from himself, not because the cop didn't want to get cut.

tony286 · 11-12-2004, 03:29 PM

They cant control a little boy thats pretty sad.

Rich · 11-12-2004, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by kane
cool, I do the same often myself

Looking back, I said fired.

Kimmykim · 11-12-2004, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by scoreman

Hahaha, send him over, I've got 13 years of dealing with the devil ;)

abadfish · 11-12-2004, 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
He's obviously on Ritalin or some other drug. Kids don't do shit like that unless they're brain is fucked up on drugs. It's not coincidence that every school shooter has been on some form of mind altering drug.

Maybe they are on a "mind altering drug" for the same reason they have an idea to kill people? Why blame the drug when they obviously have mental problems in the first place.

Marcus Aurelius · 11-12-2004, 05:06 PM

good for them. I would say they did the right thing. but it would have been cooler if they could have used one of those rubber pellet grenades they use in prisons.

EZRhino · 11-12-2004, 05:16 PM

Wow that situation could gone a whole different way if it wasnt for that Taser gun

EZRhino · 11-12-2004, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by Phoenix
because theyd rather shoot him..then risk getting a small cut on themselves..lol

that police officer should be fired.

anyone that needs a weapon to subdue a 6yr old child..should not be on the police force

You are fucking out of your mind.

EZRhino · 11-12-2004, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by kane
some of my best friends are cops and you are right, they do take out drug addicts with knives. Do you know how? With an asp metal baton and pepper spray. I know this is how it works because I am often the bad guy in thier training. Most often, if you have a knife, you are coming at a cop and you will not stop he will stop with bullets to your chest. the people I work with are trained that it is department policiy if someone comes at you with a knife, you shoot him. If there are several of you around and you have the option, then maybe you break out the pepper spray and asp and take the guy alive.

I've been in those same police training cycles. I agree 100%
The glass would have remove the kids fingers before the cops could have wrestled it out of his hands.

Rich · 11-12-2004, 06:21 PM

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Originally posted by abadfish
Maybe they are on a "mind altering drug" for the same reason they have an idea to kill people? Why blame the drug when they obviously have mental problems in the first place.

The kids are prescribed the drug because they don't pay attention in class. The drug is what makes them kill themselves, and sometimes others. Look in to the numbers, little kids don't just start killing other kids unless they're drugged up.

girl_next_door · 11-12-2004, 07:39 PM

I guess the had no choice. When that incident happen, it probably is the most humane solution they could think of. Other than, physically hitting the kid that could actually cause a much major problem

media · 11-12-2004, 07:44 PM

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The officers talked to the boy without success. When the boy cut his own leg, one officer shocked him with a Taser and another grabbed him to prevent him from falling, police said.

In my opinion I think it was a little excessive but very merited, the child was endangering himself and possibly others.

He had already cut himself 3 times, if an officer jumps at the child then there is a risk he could cut himself in a fatal area and that would be far more tragic than giving the little bugger a shock, you can turn down the taser and only give him a little juice..

I think they did the right thing.. Instead of the kid being dead, he's now in spychiatric care getting the help he needs..

Drake · 11-12-2004, 07:46 PM

Kid has issues

69pornlinks · 11-12-2004, 08:51 PM

thank god he was black.....don't how this wouldv'e turned out if he was white, shit they wouldv'e shot the poor 1st grader

Rich · 11-12-2004, 09:59 PM

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Originally posted by 69pornlinks
thank god he was black.....

Oh he was black? I change my mind then, zap away. I was wondering why everyone was on the cop's side.

69pornlinks · 11-12-2004, 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
Oh he was black? I change my mind then, zap away. I was wondering why everyone was on the cop's side.

actually i'm not sure but it's a sure bet the kid was of brown orgin...how else can you explain i pig stun gunning a fucking kid.....

Paul Markham · 11-12-2004, 11:39 PM

None of us were there and therefore none of us know what happened.

Was the kid on drugs? A lot of the drugs they give kids calm them down. Maybe he had lived 6 years on processed food, this can screw up kids.

Was the child trying to hurt people around him or himself? I read it as he was trying to hurt himself. Maybe the police took the action to stop him from hurting himself further.

Using a stun gun on anyone is extreme, on a 6 year old very extreme. Did the situation call for extreme measures?

BruceM · 11-13-2004, 03:17 AM

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Originally posted by The Creator
The cops didn't do the right thing.

He had a weapon.

Why no bloody headshot for fuck's sake?

CraveContent · 11-13-2004, 03:37 AM

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Originally posted by VeriSexy
Must have been a very large 6 year old

Ive seen some damn big six year olds.

CraveContent · 11-13-2004, 03:38 AM

I want to see the video!

webmaster x · 11-14-2004, 09:31 AM

the kid was crazy but the police man was a bit harsh using that.

Rich · 11-15-2004, 04:06 PM

Oh great, looks like it's becoming policy to use stun guns on kids down in Florida. A 12 year old girl now, one of you jackasses explain to me how this cop is a hero. Start shooting every kid that runs around cars.

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MIAMI - Police have acknowledged using a stun gun to immobilize a 12-year-old girl just weeks after an officer jolted a first-grader with 50,000 volts.

olice Director Bobby Parker defended the decision to use a Taser on the 6-year-old boy last month because he was threatening to injure himself with a shard of glass. But Parker said Friday that he could not defend the decision to shock the fleeing girl, who was skipping school and apparently drunk.

According to the incident report, officer William Nelson responded to a complaint that children were swimming in a pool, drinking alcohol and smoking cigars on the morning of Nov. 5.

Nelson said he noticed the girl was intoxicated and was walking her to his car to take her back to school when she ran away through a parking lot.

Nelson, 38, said he chased her and yelled several times for her to stop before firing the Taser when she began to run into traffic. The electric probes hit the girl in the neck and lower back, immobilizing her.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6468373/?GT1=5809

webmaster x · 11-15-2004, 04:16 PM

I've read this one already, the kid was crazy.

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kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	first off I love how all the GFY doctors already have the kid as a psycho who's hopped up on some kind of ritalin or something. second. this is a very short article, none of us were there so it's hard to say what the situation was. But here is a telling quote from the article " When two Miami-Dade County police officers and a school officer arrived, the boy had already cut himself under his eye and on his hand. The officers talked to the boy without success. When the boy cut his own leg, one officer shocked him with a Taser and another grabbed him to prevent him from falling, police said." so the kid had a shard of glass and had already cut himself twice, once under the eye. Then when they talk to him he cuts his own leg. so what do you suggest? Charge the kid to subdue him and let him jam the glass in his eye, or slice his wrist or neck or something? Clearly the kid was willing to hurt himself so if it's me I have no reason to belive he will not do it again. Yes the tazer does kill people. But that is very rare. I would say shocking the kid with a tazer was less dangerous to the kid than trying to wrestle away a sharp piece of glass from him while he proceeds to cut himself and maybe you up. It's a tough call, but the cops made the right call.

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Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	What a crock of shit. The public school system in the States is totally fucked up, and this kind of thing just makes it worse. The kid was 6 for Chrissakes. I could take down a half dozen of them myself, if they all had knives. It's not rocket science.

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