ICANN "5-day email reply" troll - GoFuckYourself.com

OWNED · 11-10-2004, 08:24 AM

link to the original press release ?

OWNED · 11-10-2004, 08:35 AM

didn't think so.

GotGauge · 11-10-2004, 08:37 AM

http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/default.asp
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OWNED · 11-10-2004, 08:41 AM

how the fuck is it possible ?

do you understand what kind of shit is going down if this is tre ?

Veterans Day · 11-10-2004, 08:44 AM

I know I got a list of 500 domains I am requesting transfer from, lets see who doesnt reply

OWNED · 11-10-2004, 08:45 AM

do you think TheHun locked his shit down by now ?

anyway, when is it going to start ?

Doctor Dre · 11-10-2004, 08:46 AM

Lock your domains

OWNED · 11-10-2004, 08:54 AM

I call troll.

There's nothing on www.ICANN.org
And Godaddy has always been full of shit.

Veterans Day · 11-10-2004, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OWNED
I call troll.

There's nothing on www.ICANN.org
And Godaddy has always been full of shit.

From November 8-10, we are sending an email to all domain customers informing you of a new domain transfer policy, enforced by ICANN (The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers). This policy dictates that we must honor any transfer requests, even if you do not personally confirm them. To prevent unauthorized transfers, lock your domains. This service is free and takes only a minute.

OWNED · 11-10-2004, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Veterans Day
From November 8-10, we are sending an email to all domain customers informing you of a new domain transfer policy, enforced by ICANN (The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers). This policy dictates that we must honor any transfer requests, even if you do not personally confirm them. To prevent unauthorized transfers, lock your domains. This service is free and takes only a minute.

LINK ???

Nathan · 11-10-2004, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OWNED
I call troll.

There's nothing on www.ICANN.org
And Godaddy has always been full of shit.

Uhm, there is nothing on ICANN? Look again.

http://www.icann.org/transfers/policy-12jul04.htm

Also, this is not half as bad as it sounds when godaddy explains it.

The verification of domain ownership simply changed from CONTROLLING to RECEIVING registrar.

Before if you moved away from godaddy you had to ok the move at godaddy, now if you move to xyz you have to confirm it at xyz.

Evil1 · 11-10-2004, 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by OWNED
I call troll.

There's nothing on www.ICANN.org
And Godaddy has always been full of shit.

http://news.netcraft.com/

Real Money · 11-10-2004, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nathan
The verification of domain ownership simply changed from CONTROLLING to RECEIVING registrar.

Before if you moved away from godaddy you had to ok the move at godaddy, now if you move to xyz you have to confirm it at xyz.

I'm fucking lost.

UniqueMovies · 11-10-2004, 09:08 AM

So when does this all take effect?

I wanna test it out. lol

Nathan · 11-10-2004, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Real Money
I'm fucking lost.

You never transfered a domain before huh?

Most of the time it works like this right now:

You go to the new registrar and say "I want to transfer domain xyz.com to you" they say ok, and initiate it.

A short time later you get a mail from the current registrar saying someone initiated a transfer, to ok it go to URL XYZ and enter ABC to confirm the transfer.

When you do that, the domain is basically transfered.

It changes from registrar to registrar how they exactly do it, but thats the general idea.

The change going into place now is that the NEW registrar has to verify who you are and not the old one. The reason they changed this most likely is that there are a bunch of registrars out there that try to make it difficult to move away from them so you have to pay another year.

Evil1 · 11-10-2004, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by UniqueMovies
So when does this all take effect?

I wanna test it out. lol

friday

svenski · 11-10-2004, 09:39 AM

As I said before, *BIG* difference this time is there are 2 ways for the transfer to go through:

One: You receive the transfer request email and you decline or approve.

Two: You don't receive or don't respond to the transfer request. The transfer still goes through after five days.

It ain't rocket science to see how to abuse it. Sure there are dispute resolution procedures etc but ICANNs standard response is "talk to your registrar".

Registrars MUST fulfill transfer requests in five days. With hundreds of thousands of domains flying about they ain't going to be going though each request manually.

AbeFroman · 11-10-2004, 09:42 AM

Quote:

[i]The reason they changed this most likely is that there are a bunch of registrars out there that try to make it difficult to move away from them so you have to pay another year. [/B]

Do you think there are more unscrupulous registrars or webmasters? I can see 5000 russian webmasters scanning the whois database for "active" domains right now. "Active" means not locked for those who dont know.

UniqueMovies · 11-10-2004, 09:49 AM

How can you tell if a domain is locked or not?

Nathan · 11-10-2004, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AbeFroman
Do you think there are more unscrupulous registrars or webmasters? I can see 5000 russian webmasters scanning the whois database for "active" domains right now. "Active" means not locked for those who dont know.

You people do not friggin get it.

You need to VERIFY WHO YOU ARE to transfer a domain! Now and AFTER the change also!!!!

What makes it friggin more secure now than after the change?!

AbeFroman · 11-10-2004, 09:50 AM

Status: Locked

or

Status: Active

UniqueMovies · 11-10-2004, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AbeFroman
Status: Locked

or

Status: Active

Duh!

I mean how can you know if a domain that you do NOT own is locked or not? There is no info in the whois about the status.

Hentaikid · 11-11-2004, 05:52 AM

Yes there is http://whois.sc/thehun.com

See at the bottom, status: registrar lock

mkx · 11-11-2004, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Veterans Day
I know I got a list of 500 domains I am requesting transfer from, lets see who doesnt reply

Don't you have to prepay for each domain transfer and you lose your money if it is declined? If not, what registrar are you using?

Oh and the below statement alone prooves that this is not a troll.

"Failure by the Registrar of Record to respond within five (5) calendar days to a notification from the Registry regarding a transfer request will result in a default "approval" of the transfer." http://www.icann.org/transfers/policy-12jul04.htm

11-10-2004, 08:24 AM	#1
OWNED So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 852	ICANN "5-day email reply" troll link to the original press release ?

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11-10-2004, 08:35 AM	#2
OWNED So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 852	didn't think so.

11-10-2004, 08:41 AM	#4
OWNED So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 852	how the fuck is it possible ? do you understand what kind of shit is going down if this is tre ?

11-10-2004, 08:45 AM	#6
OWNED So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 852	do you think TheHun locked his shit down by now ? anyway, when is it going to start ?

11-10-2004, 08:54 AM	#8
OWNED So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 852	I call troll. There's nothing on www.ICANN.org And Godaddy has always been full of shit.

11-10-2004, 09:08 AM	#14
UniqueMovies Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,691	So when does this all take effect? I wanna test it out. lol

11-10-2004, 09:39 AM	#17
svenski Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Behind you Posts: 227	As I said before, BIG difference this time is there are 2 ways for the transfer to go through: One: You receive the transfer request email and you decline or approve. Two: You don't receive or don't respond to the transfer request. The transfer still goes through after five days. It ain't rocket science to see how to abuse it. Sure there are dispute resolution procedures etc but ICANNs standard response is "talk to your registrar". Registrars MUST fulfill transfer requests in five days. With hundreds of thousands of domains flying about they ain't going to be going though each request manually.

11-10-2004, 09:49 AM	#19
UniqueMovies Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,691	How can you tell if a domain is locked or not?

11-10-2004, 09:50 AM	#21
AbeFroman Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 220	Status: Locked or Status: Active

11-11-2004, 05:52 AM	#23
Hentaikid Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,249	Yes there is http://whois.sc/thehun.com See at the bottom, status: registrar lock