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Fletch XXX 11-08-2004 01:46 PM

good quote

George W. Bush on Drugs : Jun 1, 2003

Turned from alcoholism by power of prayer

In September 2002, Bush invited five religious leaders-three Christian, one Jewish, one Muslim-to meet with him in the Oval Office. "You know," he said, "I had a drinking problem. Right now I should be in a bar in Texas, not the Oval Office. There is only one reason that I am in the Oval Office and not in a bar. I found faith. I found God. I am here because of the power of prayer."

http://www.issues2000.org/News_School_Prayer.htm

Fletch XXX 11-08-2004 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
please show us the laws proposed or passed by the president in his 4 long years that make you think this.
he did sing the little anti-abortion thing

http://washington.news.designerz.com...ith-women.html

Fletch XXX 11-08-2004 01:47 PM

california voted yes for stem cell, the pres is against it, why again?

survey says,... religion.

Fletch XXX 11-08-2004 01:49 PM

his "faith-based initiatives" are religious in nature no?

http://pewforum.org/faith-based-initiatives/

Fletch XXX 11-08-2004 01:50 PM

http://talkleft.com/new_archives/002983.html

Bush Tries to Exempt Religious Groups From Discrimination Laws
Remember Bush's State of the Union speech in which he promised huge dollars for drug treatment -- provided by religious groups? Or his "faith-based" initiative in 2000 that mercifully died? Well, he's not giving up. But he's delusional if he thinks his new plan will get through Congress.

Bush is trying to get Congress to exempt religious groups from adhering to anti-discrimination laws on hiring policies. In other words, he is seeking to allow religious groups to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation and religion when hiring.

Fletch XXX 11-08-2004 01:50 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/02/18/bush.faith/

"I welcome faith to help solve the nation's deepest problems," President Bush told a convention of religious broadcasters last week.


i am glad we will all be safe now.

codymc12 11-08-2004 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
please show us the laws proposed or passed by the president in his 4 long years that make you think this.
Proposing a constitutional ban on gay marriage would certainly fit the bill, IMO.

Let me amend that a little. IF, let's say... HIV had been found to be 'Gay Only' and was an airborne disease, and was infecting non Gay individuals, and the Pres wanted to pass a law banning Gay Marriage as a health risk to the Nation - I might or might not be for it or against it. That would, at least, be approaching the purview of the government.

He, however, wants this done to preserve the 'sanctity of marriage' - by definition tied to religion, and simply not his job.

Fletch XXX 11-08-2004 01:52 PM

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/hamilton/20030522.html

There is no question that President Bush has placed religion front and center in his Administration. Recent press coverage would seem to indicate that this is a new approach - one that is specific to this Republican Administration, and that is part of a conspiracy of fundamentalists to gain political power. In fact, nothing could be further from the truth.

Virtually all of President Bush's initiatives, when it comes to religion, were presaged by Clinton Administration policies and attitudes. Indeed, a strong case can be made that Clinton set the stage, and Bush is doing no more than following in his footsteps.

That shouldn't surprise anyone. It's very likely that Bush's successor will do the same. There is little in the culture to change this course - except the Constitution and its separation of church and state. But sadly, the Constitution alone is rarely enough to stop any politician from enacting his chosen agenda, religious or not.

not biased

;)

SmokeyTheBear 11-08-2004 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
yes and no.
its exactly as I predicted. its easy to get college kids to register to vote and make big talk about voting, quite another to get them to the polls.
same with the underclass making up the other large percentage of the liberal electorate. Its easy to go to their house and register them, quite another to get them off the couch.

Very true and i can see your theory to a point, but look at those numbers , its like each and every one was the exact opposite, its almost as if the machines got the numbers backwards :)

codymc12 11-08-2004 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
yep, thats pretty much the vibe you get listening to liberals talk.
As rousing as this has been (and it has been) I have to leave.

But in the spirit of keepings things light, I wanted to respond to the above.

:321GFY you vote stealing, gay hating fascist. :winkwink:

For the literal minded, yes, I am joking...

Later, all.

12clicks 11-08-2004 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
he did sing the little anti-abortion thing

http://washington.news.designerz.com...ith-women.html

again we have the misguided extreme left grasping at straws.

you're talking about banning partial birth abortions. this is not a religious issue.
its whether you believe that you can pull a baby out of a woman feet first and kill it.

Fletch XXX 11-08-2004 02:02 PM

blah blah blah, label me this label me that,.

You ignore all the links and proof and grasp at straws yourself.

out of all the relighious based things he has done you choose that one?

anyway, i bet you voted Barry GOldwater in 1964, your party hasnt changed much.

you people were against civil rights in 64 and you are against gays having rights today.

12clicks 11-08-2004 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Very true and i can see your theory to a point, but look at those numbers , its like each and every one was the exact opposite, its almost as if the machines got the numbers backwards :)
I know, its shoking but remember.
the people who went out to poor areas and signed up democratic type voters were motivated to register everyone they could. those registered had no motivation to go to the polls and vote.

sacX 11-08-2004 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Very true and i can see your theory to a point, but look at those numbers , its like each and every one was the exact opposite, its almost as if the machines got the numbers backwards :)
it does look bad, but if you look at how those counties voted in 2000 it was the same direction Bush over Gore.. So it seems in this example it actually is democrats voting for Bush (unless that computer fucked it up in 2000 also)..

Fletch XXX 11-08-2004 02:05 PM

Ashcroft spends 8k on cloth to cover statue

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...oft-breast.htm

surely this is not religious in any way

hahaha

Fletch XXX 11-08-2004 02:07 PM

http://christiansagainstbush.bravehost.com/

Christians Against Bush!

haha

kenny 11-08-2004 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Ashcroft spends 8k on cloth to cover statue

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors...oft-breast.htm

surely this is not religious in any way

hahaha

I am glad that they aren't letting him back

12clicks 11-08-2004 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
blah blah blah, label me this label me that,.

You ignore all the links and proof and grasp at straws yourself.

out of all the relighious based things he has done you choose that one?

anyway, i bet you voted Barry GOldwater in 1964, your party hasnt changed much.

you people were against civil rights in 64 and you are against gays having rights today.

banning partial birth abortion and faith based initiatives?
this is all you have?

this is exactly what I'm talking about. once you get past the liberal screaming and bore down to the facts, you don't have a case.
Thats why more people voted for Bush this election than for anyone else, ever.

oh, and you should check your civil rights facts before you embarrass yourself.

Fletch XXX 11-08-2004 02:09 PM

Bush is never wrong.

he claimed we were not going to have any casualties in Iraq

NEW YORK (CNN) -- The founder of the U.S. Christian Coalition said Tuesday he told President George W. Bush before the invasion of Iraq that he should prepare Americans for the likelihood of casualties, but the president told him, "We're not going to have any casualties."

Pat Robertson, an ardent Bush supporter, said he had that conversation with the president in Nashville, Tennessee, before the March 2003 invasion U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. He described Bush in the meeting as "the most self-assured man I've ever met in my life."



:1orglaugh

stocktrader23 11-08-2004 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
banning partial birth abortion and faith based initiatives?
this is all you have?

this is exactly what I'm talking about. once you get past the liberal screaming and bore down to the facts, you don't have a case.
Thats why more people voted for Bush this election than for anyone else, ever.

oh, and you should check your civil rights facts before you embarrass yourself.

It's also why more people voted against Bush than anyone esle, ever etc. blah, whatever.

Probono 11-08-2004 02:11 PM

My Russian friend said that he and other Russian programmers thank Diebold for providing the opportunity for some many Russians to vote for Bush in this election.

stocktrader23 11-08-2004 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
Bush is never wrong.

he claimed we were not going to have any casualties in Iraq

NEW YORK (CNN) -- The founder of the U.S. Christian Coalition said Tuesday he told President George W. Bush before the invasion of Iraq that he should prepare Americans for the likelihood of casualties, but the president told him, "We're not going to have any casualties."

Pat Robertson, an ardent Bush supporter, said he had that conversation with the president in Nashville, Tennessee, before the March 2003 invasion U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. He described Bush in the meeting as "the most self-assured man I've ever met in my life."



:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Fletch XXX 11-08-2004 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
forgot the link

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1020-05.htm

:glugglug

SmokeyTheBear 11-08-2004 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacX
it does look bad, but if you look at how those counties voted in 2000 it was the same direction Bush over Gore.. So it seems in this example it actually is democrats voting for Bush (unless that computer fucked it up in 2000 also)..
:) well it does seem awfully freaky coincidence that every registered democrat appeared to vote for a republican and every republican voted for a democrat :)

stocktrader23 11-08-2004 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
:) well it does seem awfully freaky coincidence that every registered democrat appeared to vote for a republican and every republican voted for a democrat :)
Nahhhhh nothing fishy about that. Especially since it's only one type of vote scanning system it happened on.

Wheeeeeeeee

mardigras 11-08-2004 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 12clicks
typical liberal.
when the truth shuts you down just yell "look over there":1orglaugh

Some would say Karl Rove & company perfected "look over there!" this year.:glugglug

stocktrader23 11-08-2004 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mardigras
Some would say Karl Rove & company perfected "look over there!" this year.:glugglug
hehe

mardigras 11-08-2004 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
Nahhhhh nothing fishy about that. Especially since it's only one type of vote scanning system it happened on.

Wheeeeeeeee

No, those machines were the only ones that got it right, the rest are wrong.:winkwink:

ronbotx 11-08-2004 06:05 PM

http://www.shop4photos.net/graphics/183/18359.jpg
YOU BUSH BASHING GFY MORONS CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH


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