your meeting a girls at a night club then your invite her to take a drink at hom and this is your home doors, i just cant imagine the reaction of the girls and whats running in her minds when shes looking at you :glugglug

http://www.missilebases.com/visit_ti...ntenasilom.jpg

it's possible.

I want one of those too. I had dreams of underground secret hiding places like that as a kid lol

Ok, this is very weird. As off the wall as this sounds it is very close to stuff that I have uncovered. Now, you can take this for what its worth but I used to place people under hypnosis and take them into past lives. A few dozen times I experimented with taking them into future lives, and although I had a hard time comprehending the validity of it they would all say the same things on certain issues. Such as marijuana being legal, how long it would take to fly from NY to LA, virtual reality being common in household TV's, etc. Interesting stuff but I took a lot of it with a grain of salt. Although 15 years ago one of them mentioned the internet which is why I jumped into it back in 1995.

About 5 years ago (the last time I did this) I placed this girl under hypnosis and she believed she was in the year 2035. She started talking about how terrorist attacks from years ago completely changed this country. She talked about how Bush got killed in an attack (which he wasnt even Pres at the time) and she said something that really stuck out, she said 'but from what I understand nobody really liked him anyway'. She went on to say that millions of Americans were killed with attacks that were simultaneously done in major cities, and afterwards almost half of the people in the country moved to different countries. She said it happened in 2005. It really did freak me out for a while but I told myself it probably wasnt true. Then Bush got elected, 9/11 happened, and it seems more and more like a strong possibility. I know how crazy this all sounds but I thought it was worth sharing, especially after reading this thread.

Yes Biff but first finish washing the car k?

Amazing, I would be interested in hearing more. :)

Well, the good news is that weed will be legal. :1orglaugh

Dude I am trippin out so bad right now

same

:eek7

so she'll die before 2035

I did tape record most of it, I have it around here somewhere and maybe I'll transcript it. I don't think this chick was making this shit up, she was calling me crying for a week straight over it. She also said that during these attacks most the major casinos in Vegas were taken out, NY was hit, Atlanta, Denver, DC and LA. All in the same day. To this day I tell myself maybe its bullshit, and I figured if Kerry was elected then it would prove it wrong. Now I'm not so sure.

No he wouldn't, he conceded. Dick Cheney would become president.

That's crazy. Definetly would have freaked me out.... it kinda DOES freak me out actually. :helpme

What is that a picture of and what did you say? :eek7

Past life regression = bullshit
Future life visit = bigger bullshit
Hypnotism = parlor trick

That was another thing she was freaking out about. Afterwards she kept saying she wasnt going to live very much longer.
She believed she was a 19 year old male at the time. The funny thing is she didnt believe in past lives, we were laying in bed and I asked her if she wanted to try it. I know this shit sounds completely bizarre but I couldnt make this up nor would I want to.

That would be cool if you could transcript it.

I believe that the future contains an infinite set of possibilities, that nothing is set in stone/destiny fate and that we create our future by our actions and thoughts now.

Having said that, if a number of individuals are saying generally the same things, then that makes it one of the more likely possibilities. I have heard elements of yours and the original post from many different sources and some of it rings true.

I am certainly not a tin foil conspiracy type guy but being informed ahead of time about some likely outcomes is certainly wise and may even help avert or lessen some of the possible negative events. :upsidedow

In the event that this stuff happens, I plan to move to a South Pacific island where I will promptly take over the native population and rule them as their self-appointed fascist leader.

:glugglug

Post apocyliptic stories are popular with the masses. We have been predicting our own demise since the beginning of man. Happy stories about the future just wouldn't be popular at all. What if someone came back and said "the 2035 is SO much better then your time is!"? We'd all be bored in about a half second.

You're talking about stuff you know nothing about. Future life, very possible its bullshit. Past life, I've done it to hundreds of people and I personally have no doubt its valid. You can believe what you want, I really don't give a shit. And as far as you saying hypnosis is a 'parlor trick', well that truly shows your ignorance.

speaking of all this, i actually had a real weird dream last night that i couldnt find a job because of my age and not serving the military.. like instead of the draft.. you just couldnt get a job without enlisting to the army first.

was weird, that would definately suck tho

so she'll die in the nuclear war of 2015 that titor was talking about

starting to make sense!

if we meet in vegas you wanna hypnotise me and record me talking about my past life?

that would actually be really interesting

Yes "blissfull" ignorance indeed.

Nothing personal CET but you could probably read 100 books on it and talk to 1000 ppl and still think its crap. As I said to another hardline skeptic Battuss a while ago, if you are not open to at least consider new possibilities nothing will change for you.


Anyhow SuckOnThis grab some coffee and get working on those transcripts. I expect them done by the morning. :winkwink:

I couldnt agree with you more. I don't think the future is set in stone simply due to the fact that man has free will. But I do believe there are more probable futures based on factors in play at that time. Then there's some that prescribe to the theory that the past, present and future are happening all at once, which I have a hard time grasping.

if you don't believe in hypnosis, go to www.hypnotrick.com


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Yes I changed my views a year ago or so from believing in past/future lives to believing in multiple simultaneous incarnations independent of time and space. Definitely harder to grasp but makes a lot more sense to me. :glugglug

Hypnotism is a parlor trick, nothing else.

http://www.randi.org/jr/020604monk.html#5

http://www.randi.org/jr/06-01-01.html

"In any case, hypnosis is merely an agreement between the subject and the operator that they will fantasize together, nothing more. It may well have some limited value as a psychiatric tool, but it's not a "power," it's not a "force," it's a role-playing game, and only highly emotional persons will react as Ms. Howarth did."

http://www.sho.com/site/ptbs/topics.do


If you can do past life regression and you have no doubt that they are valid, then that means reincarnation is a fact. If it's a fact, then we ought to be able to find SOME evidence for it outside of using hypnotism.

If hypnotism is more then a parlor trick and past life regression is real, why are you getting pissed off at me? My not believing in something isn't going to make it untrue. I think you already doubt its validity and are simply lashing out.

It does make sense to the degree that time only exists in this dimension, and I'm sure its entirely possible. But its one of those things that the brain has a hard time comprehending, kind of the same thing as where did God come from or where does the universe end. I'll make a point of transcripting it by tomorrow afternoon and post it in this thread.

I have no dogma, so I don't give a shit what's real and what's not, I just want to know what is real. Hypnotism is real, but it's only a parlor trick, nothing more, nothing less. Ever since movies like The Manchurian Candidate, people have given hypnotism WAY too much credit. It's an agreement between two people to fantasize together and roleplay.

:thumbsup

On a side note, I find it intersting that because someone doesn't agree with you, that means they don't know what they're talking about. All I had given you to this point was 3 simple equations that gave no idication of education or experience. Yet you assumed that I had none. Your argument looks kind of like this:

Disagreement = ignorance

For all you know, I may be a psychtherapist who has done extensive studies on hypnosis. You don't know shit about me, but you're going to make baseless assumptions. You have shown how weak your position is and you know it.

I am only lashing out at you because right away you say its bullshit, which I understand most people don't believe it to begin with. I don't try to push reincarnation onto anyone, but as far as hypnosis goes it is widely accepted in even mainstream psychology, which is how I got started in it as a psych major in college. If you understood how the conscious and subconscious mind worked you would realize that it makes complete sense. There are many myths about hypnosis which maybe has caused you to doubt is validity, such as a person under hypnosis can be made to do things they normally wouldnt do, or that they are completely unaware of whats going on, none of thats true. All hypnosis does is bypass the conscious mind to get to the subconscious.

He KNOWS hypnosis to be valid based on his experience.

You BELIEVE hypnosis to be invalid based on what you think after having read about it. I am sure if your scepticism was based on your years as a psychotherapist you would have mentioned it before now.

It is natural to be pissed at someone who doubts what you know to be true. We are not talking about is there a God or something that can't be proven, we are talking about hypnosis which is something that is used successfully every day by trained practitioners worldwide.

2/3 of us are dead in 2012. who cares?

I'd like to be in the one third left :winkwink:

Well you have two choices if you think your number will be up tomorrow or in 2012, both of which can happen.

1) Party till then as "fuck it what's the point"

or 2) Make use of every day

So who's the undercover FBI agent :(

i'm pretty sure i will be in the 1/3 if i can enlighten myself by then.

by the way it's not set in stone. if humanity can turn itself around we have a chance.

BINGO