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Old 11-07-2004, 01:25 AM   #1
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Former US Military: You CAN be called up!

Ever heard of the Ready Reserve? I didn't.

Turns out after you are discharged you are considered "inactive reserve" for four years (and subject to being recalled). For the next eight years you are in the "ready reserves' (and subject to recall).

I just did the math; I've been out for fifteen years.

From Yahoo News:

HONOLULU - A veteran of the first Persian Gulf War is suing the Army after it ordered him to report for duty 13 years after he was honorably discharged from active duty and eight years after he left the reserves.



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Old 11-07-2004, 01:27 AM   #2
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Doesn't it say anything in the papers you sign when you join the forces? Surely it must be mentioned.
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Blame Bush not ohio its not their fault its Bushes.
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Doesn't it say anything in the papers you sign when you join the forces? Surely it must be mentioned.
Yeah the clause must be there somewhere. In the fine print perhaps.
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When the military is spread this thin its a safe bet it will be used.
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Ever heard of the Ready Reserve? I didn't.

Turns out after you are discharged you are considered "inactive reserve" for four years (and subject to being recalled). For the next eight years you are in the "ready reserves' (and subject to recall).

I just did the math; I've been out for fifteen years.

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HONOLULU - A veteran of the first Persian Gulf War is suing the Army after it ordered him to report for duty 13 years after he was honorably discharged from active duty and eight years after he left the reserves.



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Unless there has been a change (I don't think there has been) when you enlist in the military...be it a two-three-four-or six year enlistement...you then have committed yourself to an eight year obligation. If for example you originally enlisted for two years and did not re-enlist you still would have a six year obligation in the Ready Reserve and could be called back to service anytime within that six year period. If you enlisted for six years (which is the max for a single enlistement or re-enlistment) and did not re-enlist...you then would have a two year obligation in the Ready Reserve...and could be called back to service within that two year period.

In this guys situation...it is just a SNAFU...I suspect.
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Old 11-07-2004, 01:56 AM   #14
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Doesn't it say anything in the papers you sign when you join the forces? Surely it must be mentioned.
It is mentioned.
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Ever heard of the Ready Reserve? I didn't.

Turns out after you are discharged you are considered "inactive reserve" for four years (and subject to being recalled). For the next eight years you are in the "ready reserves' (and subject to recall).

I just did the math; I've been out for fifteen years.

From Yahoo News:

HONOLULU - A veteran of the first Persian Gulf War is suing the Army after it ordered him to report for duty 13 years after he was honorably discharged from active duty and eight years after he left the reserves.



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He wont have a problem beating that since its only a 8 year contract to begin with.
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lol. I don't compare Bush to Hitler but I though this was funny.

Shitty the way they are doing things... but they have to do it this way to avoid a formal public draft.
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Old 11-07-2004, 02:18 AM   #17
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Look Iraq has turned into a shit sandwich which the US admin did not anticipate, so the extra troops are needed. Better it's US than British troops.

How much of the rebuilding work has been given to the UK and how much is the UK paying for Blairs mistake?
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Better it's US than British troops.
that was a fucking ignorant statement douschebag...

what have you done for your puny country lately?
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HONOLULU - A veteran of the first Persian Gulf War is suing the Army after it ordered him to report for duty 13 years after he was honorably discharged from active duty and eight years after he left the reserves.

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Anyone know the cheapest flight to Canada?
I don't think draft dodgers are safe in Canada anymore. I think they get extradited now.
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this how you know that a draft is close, when the military is strecth this thin...... oh well y'all was all gung ho for this 'war'
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this has been in the news quite a bit.. did you watch the debates? This is what Kerry was referring to when he said a back door draft..
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I got out of everything (including IRR) in November 2002...I'm not going anywhere.....The recruiters keep mailing me and I keep telling them to eat a dick but they hit me up every few months still trying to say that I am still under contract...I have my discharge papers in the desk and I'm not worried.

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that was a fucking ignorant statement douschebag...

what have you done for your puny country lately?
My cousin fought in this war, so I suppose that gives me the right to comment.

Plus as I pay US taxes I have a right to comment as much as I like.

Seems like there will be a need for more troops soon.
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They give me a chopper a hummer a good looking WAC driver..and the rank of at least full bird..i'll go back and play soldier for a year or two
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Ever heard of the Ready Reserve? I didn't.

Turns out after you are discharged you are considered "inactive reserve" for four years (and subject to being recalled). For the next eight years you are in the "ready reserves' (and subject to recall).

I just did the math; I've been out for fifteen years.

From Yahoo News:

HONOLULU - A veteran of the first Persian Gulf War is suing the Army after it ordered him to report for duty 13 years after he was honorably discharged from active duty and eight years after he left the reserves.



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Didn't know that.

Thanks. Passing it along.

Sometimes, it's good to be old.
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I got out of everything (including IRR) in November 2002...I'm not going anywhere.....The recruiters keep mailing me and I keep telling them to eat a dick but they hit me up every few months still trying to say that I am still under contract...I have my discharge papers in the desk and I'm not worried.

Plus I was in the Navy so I wouldn't have died anyway.

they actually try to tell you you are still under contract?
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this has been in the news quite a bit.. did you watch the debates? This is what Kerry was referring to when he said a back door draft..

That isn't even close to a backdoor draft. To many people don't listen or read their contracts when VOLUNTEERING for the military.

"All Soldiers have a statutory eight-year military service obligation (MSO), which is established at the time of entry into military service (Active or Reserve). Traditional enlistment terms are three, four, five and six years. Terms of service for active duty are from 2-6 years."

It has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats.
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I know a few SEALs who had to pack up and leave after being out of the teams for nearly a dozen years.

One guy in Force Recon had to go over and he'd been out for 10 years.
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Official spokesman Thaer Naqib said the emergency would cover the whole of Iraq except Kurdish-run areas in the north.

He said the move came in response to mass killings and destruction of the country's infrastructure carried out by "criminals and terrorists".
I think this is a little much when you look at the facts.

1. The invasion was on false grounds.
2. The Invaders have killed far more innocent people and destroyed more infrastructure than the Resistance.
3. When it was discovered the reasons for the invasion was based on false and circumstantial evidence the reason was changed.
4. There will never be free democratic elections in Iraq while the US can stop them. The majority of the people would vote for a Muslim fundamentalist government that would kick them out immediately.
5. The guy giving statements out will be a US citizen within the next ten years, getting out with the rest of the COLLABORATORS to stop them from being killed.

Funny how you can invade a country and call yourselves liberators. Much like Hitler and his invasion of Czechoslovakia in 38.
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I think this is a little much when you look at the facts.

1. The invasion was on false grounds.
2. The Invaders have killed far more innocent people and destroyed more infrastructure than the Resistance.
3. When it was discovered the reasons for the invasion was based on false and circumstantial evidence the reason was changed.
4. There will never be free democratic elections in Iraq while the US can stop them. The majority of the people would vote for a Muslim fundamentalist government that would kick them out immediately.
5. The guy giving statements out will be a US citizen within the next ten years, getting out with the rest of the COLLABORATORS to stop them from being killed.

Funny how you can invade a country and call yourselves liberators. Much like Hitler and his invasion of Czechoslovakia in 38.
hush didn't you know that they're trying to free the people of iraq but those ungrateful heathens are not going along with the plan......
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thats the problem with joining the army or even the reserves. better cash than mcdonalds while in school for example, but at least mcdonalds can't require you to come flip burgers when shit hits the fan.
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That isn't even close to a backdoor draft. To many people don't listen or read their contracts when VOLUNTEERING for the military.

"All Soldiers have a statutory eight-year military service obligation (MSO), which is established at the time of entry into military service (Active or Reserve). Traditional enlistment terms are three, four, five and six years. Terms of service for active duty are from 2-6 years."

It has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats.
So how does 8 years under contract turn to 12 or 13?
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When I waS injured in SF they asked me to forfeit my medboard and that by doing so I would get teh proper care I needed.... meaning I could leave sooner and go see a private surgeon.

SO I signed away at the forms saying I didn't want a medboard (takes 18 months sometimes I could give a fuck about the 22k a year I'd have received)

now I got a call from my old recruiter checking up on me and he said that since I didn't take the medBoard I'm eligible to go first in any draft... LOL i"m totally staying in Canada...
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When I waS injured in SF they asked me to forfeit my medboard and that by doing so I would get teh proper care I needed.... meaning I could leave sooner and go see a private surgeon.

SO I signed away at the forms saying I didn't want a medboard (takes 18 months sometimes I could give a fuck about the 22k a year I'd have received)

now I got a call from my old recruiter checking up on me and he said that since I didn't take the medBoard I'm eligible to go first in any draft... LOL i"m totally staying in Canada...
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this has been in the news quite a bit.. did you watch the debates? This is what Kerry was referring to when he said a back door draft..
Bingo. Such an important issue was blocked out by so many people.
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Unless there has been a change (I don't think there has been) when you enlist in the military...be it a two-three-four-or six year enlistement...you then have committed yourself to an eight year obligation. If for example you originally enlisted for two years and did not re-enlist you still would have a six year obligation in the Ready Reserve and could be called back to service anytime within that six year period. If you enlisted for six years (which is the max for a single enlistement or re-enlistment) and did not re-enlist...you then would have a two year obligation in the Ready Reserve...and could be called back to service within that two year period.

In this guys situation...it is just a SNAFU...I suspect.
I believe the King is correct on this.

When I signed my contract as part of the ARMY ROTC program, I agreed to an eight year commitment. That typically meant a combination of Active Duty, Active Reserve, and IRR(In-active Reserve). For the last couple of years during that period I got called up for two weeks during the summer for training and that was it. The military can however, pull you into Active duty ANY time during that eight year period. The contract period varies a bit from service to service. People need to realize that when they sign up for the Reserves, especially these days.

So the IRR is nothing new. Something sounds really odd here.

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Old 11-07-2004, 10:40 AM   #44
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When I waS injured in SF they asked me to forfeit my medboard and that by doing so I would get teh proper care I needed.... meaning I could leave sooner and go see a private surgeon.

SO I signed away at the forms saying I didn't want a medboard (takes 18 months sometimes I could give a fuck about the 22k a year I'd have received)

now I got a call from my old recruiter checking up on me and he said that since I didn't take the medBoard I'm eligible to go first in any draft... LOL i"m totally staying in Canada...
which group were you with and what years?
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Old 11-07-2004, 10:42 AM   #45
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My cousin fought in this war, so I suppose that gives me the right to comment.

Plus as I pay US taxes I have a right to comment as much as I like.

Seems like there will be a need for more troops soon.
Translation: You haven't done shit for your country so STFU
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Old 11-07-2004, 10:57 AM   #46
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It's going to get really ugly pissing off a lot of ex-military...
Let's get this straight, I have the utmost respect for most soldiers thjere, they are doing a shit job and doing it as well as can be expected.

It's the politicians I have a beef with, how many of their sons are over there doing their dirty work?
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Old 11-07-2004, 11:00 AM   #47
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I did my 8 years on Active duty, they don't own my ass anymore, that plus I've been out for 14 years..
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Old 11-07-2004, 11:02 AM   #48
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Ever heard of the Ready Reserve? I didn't.

Turns out after you are discharged you are considered "inactive reserve" for four years (and subject to being recalled). For the next eight years you are in the "ready reserves' (and subject to recall).

I just did the math; I've been out for fifteen years.

From Yahoo News:

HONOLULU - A veteran of the first Persian Gulf War is suing the Army after it ordered him to report for duty 13 years after he was honorably discharged from active duty and eight years after he left the reserves.



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"Oh, I didn't know that..." Hahaha! You Americanos are sooooo funny!!

4 More Years!!! Muahahahahaha!!!
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Old 11-07-2004, 11:03 AM   #49
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Translation: You haven't done shit for your country so STFU
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man I am glad I am old blind and have a small penis...

I wont be going to iraq ever in my life for any reason period
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