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Tev 11-07-2004 11:10 AM

Ok, I gotta go back a lotta years to remember this, I got out of the army in '85 did my reserves, and finished the IRR about 8 mos before the first gulf war, I extended while in the active reserves and the only reason I could think why I would have done that was sheer stupidity, but if memory serves I remember something saying that if it was needed the army could call you back for life if there was need.

EviLSuperstaR 11-07-2004 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by 69pornlinks
hush didn't you know that they're trying to free the people of iraq but those ungrateful heathens are not going along with the plan......:winkwink:

What plan?? This is the Bush Administration we are talking about!

Four more years!!!! Muaahahahahahahahahaha!

jollyperv 11-07-2004 11:32 AM

Thank god for flat feet.

ronbotx 11-07-2004 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by EviLSuperstaR
What plan?? This is the Bush Administration we are talking about!

Four more years!!!! Muaahahahahahahahahaha!

I hear that Usama is near your location. Activate the Spanish Terror Alert System!!!!!

1) Run-- Green
2) Hide -- Blue
3) Surrender -- Yellow
4) Collaborate -- ***** RED ****

Torn Rose 11-07-2004 11:40 AM

Nothing like saying ?Thank You? to your vets.

If this happens to anyone here I suggest going to the recruiter?s office wearing spandex and high heels with a joint hanging from your mouth....

EviLSuperstaR 11-07-2004 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by ronbotx
I hear that Usama is near your location. Activate the Spanish Terror Alert System!!!!!

1) Run-- Green
2) Hide -- Blue
3) Surrender -- Yellow
4) Collaborate -- ***** RED ****

You must have missed the news during the past weeks? At least spain is cleaning up the al-qaeda cells. But, yes, I forgot you watch Faux news!

Seems like Bush and Osama collaberate so well that the monkey in the white house owes his election win to the video letter of his dear Saudi friend :)

cosis 11-07-2004 11:54 AM

fuck blaming ohio, how many other stats voted bush? ohio just happened to be the last battleground state to get the votes counted

ronbotx 11-07-2004 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by EviLSuperstaR
You must have missed the news during the past weeks? At least spain is cleaning up the al-qaeda cells. But, yes, I forgot you watch Faux news!

Seems like Bush and Osama collaberate so well that the monkey in the white house owes his election win to the video letter of his dear Saudi friend :)

Wrong again shithead. This guy has USAMA to thank, with the help of weak and cowardly Spanish voters like yourself.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/...zapatero,0.jpg

GatorB 11-07-2004 12:21 PM

But Bush isn't going to call for a draft? Noticed how he did this AFTER the election. Wouldn't be surprised if he didn't try to call up my grandfather who served in WWII and has been dead for 10 years.

Peaches 11-07-2004 12:29 PM

IRR has been around for decades and has been used more in the past than it is now.

Not to mention it's all in the contract you signed. My son actually read his contract and asked his recruiter about this :thumbsup

GatorB 11-07-2004 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches
IRR has been around for decades and has been used more in the past than it is now.

Not to mention it's all in the contract you signed. My son actually read his contract and asked his recruiter about this :thumbsup

Funny no one has ever heard of it being used before. PROVE that it has. point is if Buhs had done this BEFORE the elction whether he had the right to or nt, he WOULDN'T not have won. And that's pussy. PERIOD. Just proves Bush has ZERO balls.

theking 11-07-2004 12:32 PM

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Originally posted by GatorB
But Bush isn't going to call for a draft? Noticed how he did this AFTER the election. Wouldn't be surprised if he didn't try to call up my grandfather who served in WWII and has been dead for 10 years.
There is not any need at all for a draft at this point in time. Congress controls the force end level for the military. They can raise the force end level at any point they choose to. By raising the force end levels the size of the miltary will significantly increase via the all volunteer program. In other words...at this point in time potential enlistees are being turned away and/or being put on the Delayed Entry Program. Congress will refrain from raising the force end levels for as long as possible because of the additional budgetary expense. The only way a draft would ever be reinstituted is if there is a major conflict...and at this point that does not appear to be on the horizon.

All current military personell are aware that they have an eight year obligation. They also know that their enlistments can be extended, and their retirements delayed at the descretion of the military. This is SOP and has been at least since the end of the 2nd World War.

pornguy 11-07-2004 12:35 PM

That really sucks. My Brother has been out for 14 years, and is in no shape to go back. On top of that his wife is 3 months pregnant.


Shit. He will be pissed.

Peaches 11-07-2004 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by GatorB
Funny no one has ever heard of it being used before. PROVE that it has. point is if Buhs had done this BEFORE the elction whether he had the right to or nt, he WOULDN'T not have won. And that's pussy. PERIOD. Just proves Bush has ZERO balls.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...y/usar-irr.htm

"This is not the first time the Army has used the IRR to fill its manpower needs. During the Gulf War, more than 20,000 IRR Soldiers were mobilized and deployed. Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the Army has called up more than 2,500 IRR Soldiers -- the majority through IRR volunteers, though some have been involuntary call-ups."

So, 10 times as many were called up during the Gulf war.

theking 11-07-2004 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornguy
That really sucks. My Brother has been out for 14 years, and is in no shape to go back. On top of that his wife is 3 months pregnant.


Shit. He will be pissed.

He cannot be called up.

baddog 11-07-2004 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by kmanrox


what have you done for your puny country lately?

He moved. Doesn't get much better than that.

theking 11-07-2004 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...y/usar-irr.htm

"This is not the first time the Army has used the IRR to fill its manpower needs. During the Gulf War, more than 20,000 IRR Soldiers were mobilized and deployed. Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the Army has called up more than 2,500 IRR Soldiers -- the majority through IRR volunteers, though some have been involuntary call-ups."

So, 10 times as many were called up during the Gulf war.

It always amazes me the lack of knowledge Americans have about their own military...but I guess it shouldn't since less than 1% ever serve.

Peaches 11-07-2004 12:41 PM

And GatorB, if you had actually READ the article, you would have seen the guy in question was told of his being called up back in September. Yes, it was before the election :thumbsup

Quote:

point is if Buhs had done this BEFORE the elction whether he had the right to or nt, he WOULDN'T not have won. And that's pussy. PERIOD. Just proves Bush has ZERO balls.

baddog 11-07-2004 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by charly

It's the politicians I have a beef with, how many of their sons are over there doing their dirty work?

I would guess it depends on how many of them enlisted in the military.

No one has been drafted to go there . . . at least not from the USA

theking 11-07-2004 12:46 PM

Unless the policy has been changed commissioned Officers (not Non Commissioned Officers) can be called back to active duty until age 62.

GatorB 11-07-2004 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches
And GatorB, if you had actually READ the article, you would have seen the guy in question was told of his being called up back in September. Yes, it was before the election :thumbsup
Just wait I'll be proven right. I'm not taking about ONE guy MORON. Look at the BIG picture.

theking 11-07-2004 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by GatorB
Just wait I'll be proven right. I'm not taking about ONE guy MORON. Look at the BIG picture.
The guy in question cannot be called back (unless he was an Officer and it does not sound like he was)...it is a clerical SNAFU.

baddog 11-07-2004 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by Peaches
And GatorB, if you had actually READ the article, you would have seen the guy in question was told of his being called up back in September. Yes, it was before the election :thumbsup
details, details

Sergio1234 11-07-2004 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BVF
I got out of everything (including IRR) in November 2002...I'm not going anywhere.....The recruiters keep mailing me and I keep telling them to eat a dick but they hit me up every few months still trying to say that I am still under contract...I have my discharge papers in the desk and I'm not worried.

Plus I was in the Navy so I wouldn't have died anyway.

:glugglug


I served from 1990 to 1998, yes I did my max 8 yr contract. One year later I get a call from a army recruiter asking if i like to reenlist? Told him, already did my 8 yrs, plus I can't rejoin the same branch (Army) once discharged. He informs me...Oh we call you up to 3 years from the date of discharge to reelist with the same branch of service.:mad: Don't get me wrong I was proud to serve my country, however I won't while Bushwack in office.:321GFY

Nanda 11-07-2004 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by theking
Unless there has been a change (I don't think there has been) when you enlist in the military...be it a two-three-four-or six year enlistement...you then have committed yourself to an eight year obligation. If for example you originally enlisted for two years and did not re-enlist you still would have a six year obligation in the Ready Reserve and could be called back to service anytime within that six year period. If you enlisted for six years (which is the max for a single enlistement or re-enlistment) and did not re-enlist...you then would have a two year obligation in the Ready Reserve...and could be called back to service within that two year period.

In this guys situation...it is just a SNAFU...I suspect.

Exactly!:thumbsup


Quote:

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
That isn't even close to a backdoor draft. To many people don't listen or read their contracts when VOLUNTEERING for the military.

"All Soldiers have a statutory eight-year military service obligation (MSO), which is established at the time of entry into military service (Active or Reserve). Traditional enlistment terms are three, four, five and six years. Terms of service for active duty are from 2-6 years."

It has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats.

Again, right!:thumbsup

EviLSuperstaR 11-07-2004 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by ronbotx
Wrong again shithead. This guy has USAMA to thank, with the help of weak and cowardly Spanish voters like yourself.

Perhaps some reading and investigation of events would make you look less ignorant and stupid...but I doubt it :)

BradM 11-07-2004 01:52 PM

This clearly proves how stupid some people on this board are. Clear ignorance.

trouserrat 11-07-2004 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
There is not any need at all for a draft at this point in time. Congress controls the force end level for the military. They can raise the force end level at any point they choose to. By raising the force end levels the size of the miltary will significantly increase via the all volunteer program. In other words...at this point in time potential enlistees are being turned away and/or being put on the Delayed Entry Program. Congress will refrain from raising the force end levels for as long as possible because of the additional budgetary expense. The only way a draft would ever be reinstituted is if there is a major conflict...and at this point that does not appear to be on the horizon.

All current military personell are aware that they have an eight year obligation. They also know that their enlistments can be extended, and their retirements delayed at the descretion of the military. This is SOP and has been at least since the end of the 2nd World War.

King, why are you confusing them with facts and logic? Bush is to blame for everything since the Earth cooled, didn't you know? :helpme

Quote:

Originally posted by GatorB
Funny no one has ever heard of it being used before. PROVE that it has. point is if Buhs had done this BEFORE the elction whether he had the right to or nt, he WOULDN'T not have won. And that's pussy. PERIOD. Just proves Bush has ZERO balls.
One minute he's a war mongering cowboy, the next he has zero balls. Gotta love the hypocrisy. And why do you think because YOU have never heard of this sort of thing, no one else has? Oh yea, because you know eveyrthing.:1orglaugh

ronbotx 11-07-2004 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by theking
The guy in question cannot be called back (unless he was an Officer and it does not sound like he was)...it is a clerical SNAFU.
King:

Well it has been a while, but as I recall, in order to get your honorable discharge in the USAR, you have to resign your commission as part of the separation process. I made it to O-3.

If your resignation does not get processed and accepted, they could get you. After you have your honorable discharge however, I have NEVER heard of anyone recalled, Officers included.

Why does it seem that all the GFY experts :disgust on this topic have never spent a day in the US military????

Alex From San Diego 11-07-2004 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GatorB
Funny no one has ever heard of it being used before. PROVE that it has. point is if Buhs had done this BEFORE the elction whether he had the right to or nt, he WOULDN'T not have won. And that's pussy. PERIOD. Just proves Bush has ZERO balls.
Why are you talking out your ass again.....lol

IRR has nothing to do with the draft.

theking 11-07-2004 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ronbotx
King:

Well it has been a while, but as I recall, in order to get your honorable discharge in the USAR, you have to resign your commission as part of the separation process. I made it to O-3.

If your resignation does not get processed and accepted, they could get you. After you have your honorable discharge however, I have NEVER heard of anyone recalled, Officers included.

Why does it seem that all the GFY experts :disgust on this topic have never spent a day in the US military????

I spent 12 years in the military (my career was ended in the 1st Gulf War) and was an E-7 Non Commissioned Officer not a Commissioned Officer...thus your knowledge about the recalling of Officers should be more extensive than mine. It has been my understanding that Officers who do not resign their Commission (it has been my understanding that it is optional after fulling ones military obligation to retain or resign their Commissions) are subject to recall until age 62. I knew a Major in the 1st Gulf War that was recalled after retirement (though I do not think that it was a forced recall but instead he was requested to return to active duty). I also knew retired E-Ratings that were recalled after retirement during the 1st Gulf War...but once again it was not a forced recall.

As far as E-Ratings being recalled after receiving an Honorable Discharge...there have been recalls (from time to time) of those that have not fulfilled their eight year obligation. An E-Rating receives an Honorable Discharge upon separation from active duty...and upon each re-enlistment. I have several Honorable Discharges. Another example...my brother served three years active duty with the Army and was given an Honorable Discharge then enlisted in the Marines and received an Honorable Discharge from the Corp when he re-enlisted in the Marines...and ultimately recieved a General Discharge under honorable conditions for a medical problem...when he could not fulfill his second enlistment in the Corp.

Drake 11-07-2004 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alex From San Diego
That isn't even close to a backdoor draft. To many people don't listen or read their contracts when VOLUNTEERING for the military.

"All Soldiers have a statutory eight-year military service obligation (MSO), which is established at the time of entry into military service (Active or Reserve). Traditional enlistment terms are three, four, five and six years. Terms of service for active duty are from 2-6 years."

It has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats.

This is 100% correct

Big Fish 47 11-07-2004 11:06 PM

My four years of inactive reserve are already up! :thumbsup


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