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Old 11-05-2004, 03:00 PM   #51
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Old 11-05-2004, 03:02 PM   #52
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So tell me mr big shot, what sites do you actually own that you have so much time to come on this forum and cry like a fuckin baby?
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Mac and Bumble is a great website and owned by great people-

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google se spamming is a myth, the top secret google algorithm prevents it, simply a glitch
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Old 11-05-2004, 05:23 PM   #56
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I agree with the original poster. Spamming SE's is retarded.

If someone reports them, google will ban their whole site.
its interesting that owner (or his staff) of macandbumble site is using SE spammy techniques in hope to get a few bucks from SE. (eg, if he makes 20k a month from SE, its still really hazardous for him and it makes a big chance to have his domain banned and lost much more...)
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Old 11-05-2004, 05:39 PM   #57
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SE spamming thats so crazy it might just work!
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Old 11-05-2004, 05:45 PM   #58
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You mean you can make money from search engines?
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Old 11-05-2004, 05:52 PM   #59
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50k pages indexed isn't spam its just a large website.

Now 250K well, I like to call it a really large website!
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Old 11-06-2004, 06:53 AM   #64
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I'm still waiting for my first trial signup.



SE traffic clicked from their hosted galleries .
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wow, thats some really fucked stats...
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SE traffic clicked from their hosted galleries .
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yeah.
and the new tour doesnt look that good either. airbrushed women with busted up tits.

the old one looked much better.
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Send me your account number so I can see what's going on.

I seriously don't believe where you're claiming you're getting your traffic from.

If it's search engine traffic, why are you not sending it through the tour? Why are you sending it to hosted gallery pages where they can get free content? The new blue tour's conversion is much better than the old purple tour (I've had numerous affiliates email me with positive affirmation), but if you want, you can still send traffic through the old purple tour.

Here's another question: why wouldn't you email us with any questions or concerns? Those stats suck - but they're pretty typical of people sending hardcore TGP traffic through our hosted galleries.

HARDCORE TRAFFIC DOES NOT WORK WITH SOFTCORE SITES.

We're a different niche. You wouldn't expect 'hot blonde' traffic to convert at an ebony site would you?
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Old 11-06-2004, 07:59 AM   #69
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Send me your account number so I can see what's going on.

I seriously don't believe where you're claiming you're getting your traffic from.

If it's search engine traffic, why are you not sending it through the tour? Why are you sending it to hosted gallery pages where they can get free content? The new blue tour's conversion is much better than the old purple tour (I've had numerous affiliates email me with positive affirmation), but if you want, you can still send traffic through the old purple tour.

Here's another question: why wouldn't you email us with any questions or concerns? Those stats suck - but they're pretty typical of people sending hardcore TGP traffic through our hosted galleries.

HARDCORE TRAFFIC DOES NOT WORK WITH SOFTCORE SITES.

We're a different niche. You wouldn't expect 'hot blonde' traffic to convert at an ebony site would you?
my site is www.181st.net
it gets a lot of SE traffic.
i send from galleries because its a gallery-type site.
your hosted gallery is at the top of the babes/Pornstars category
my account id is 201668
some time ago i asked you on ICQ why i had shitty convertions - you said you hd no idea why.
your traffic arguement is not valid, because hits come from your hosted galleries, that means surfers are interested - otherwise they wouldn't be clicking anything

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I am not sure i see wht they are doing as spam. Why the concern?

Bumble cash does better for me then the above stats but try and find softcore lovers. Definately a small group of folks.
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Old 11-06-2004, 08:07 AM   #71
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SE traffic clicked from their hosted galleries .
Is that your popup/under traffic?I get a popunder in firefox to that site.
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Is that your popup/under traffic?I get a popunder in firefox to that site.
No, this is clicked gallery traffic.
I have no pop-unders (only java alert box for another paysite and exit popup for trades)
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Send me your account number so I can see what's going on.

I seriously don't believe where you're claiming you're getting your traffic from.

If it's search engine traffic, why are you not sending it through the tour? Why are you sending it to hosted gallery pages where they can get free content? The new blue tour's conversion is much better than the old purple tour (I've had numerous affiliates email me with positive affirmation), but if you want, you can still send traffic through the old purple tour.

Here's another question: why wouldn't you email us with any questions or concerns? Those stats suck - but they're pretty typical of people sending hardcore TGP traffic through our hosted galleries.

HARDCORE TRAFFIC DOES NOT WORK WITH SOFTCORE SITES.

We're a different niche. You wouldn't expect 'hot blonde' traffic to convert at an ebony site would you?
please give me some more promotion tips .
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I completely agree with RWF.

Such morons on this board.
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Ahhh.. I talking with you.

You know, your site is just hard to figure out. It seems like it should do well with our site because it's not too hardcore, but I will tell you this: we don't seem to do very well with celeb traffic. We've tried exiting some traffic to celeb sites with very poor results.

I'm at a loss for why your traffic doesn't convert with our hosted galleries, but you should obviously do what's best for you and maybe that means not using Mac and Bumble. After all, you've got to go with what works.

In looking at the stats, those clicks in the 'VIP' category are how many people viewed the galleries. The clicks in 'VIDEO' and 'DEFAULT' are how many clicked through to the tours, which is a lackluster ratio.

Also, we are also popping a 5-minute free trial console (email verified, which you get credit for) and you don't have very many surfers taking advantage of that which is surprising.

Another suggestion would be to take our pictures and make your own galleries (following the rules at http://www.bumblecash.com/rules.html).

I still don't know definitively where you get your traffic from. Mac and Bumble does very well with SE traffic (witness this thread and other threads) so I'm skeptical, but I always feel bad when we (as a sponsor) don't work out for someone. We do all we can to convert someone's traffic but if it's just not the right traffic, it's not going to work.

Bottom line is, I would say your traffic isn't working with Mac and Bumble and you should send it to another sponsor. I would recommend Twistys - Shap seems like a pretty good guy and I hear his stuff converts well.
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I might as well use this time to let everyone know that we're currently working on a new version of BumbleCash that will have wires/Epassporte, better/more detailed stats, more marketing angles and features, etc plus... I'm pretty sure we'll be raising payouts here soon which is what everyone will most be concerned with. =)
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I'm surprised at the amount of people who have been in this busniess for a long time that bash this guy for reporting what is OBVIOUS SPAM. MacAndBumble are spamming, end of story. And google might just ban their ass and their domain completely for doing it. Maybe they're not concerned as affiliates are the bulk of their sales, who knows.

What if they were targeting large TGPs like SleazyDream by making doorway pages geared like this:
See Radka Docekalova at Sleazy Dream only Sleazy_Dream has Radka_Docekalova.

That is spamming and you guys would ALL be behind Sleazy when he complained.
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I think those hits include hits to their hosted galleries. Not sure why they do that but I'm sure they do. And they have popups on their hosted galleries too FYI.
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I'm surprised at the amount of people who have been in this busniess for a long time that bash this guy for reporting what is OBVIOUS SPAM. MacAndBumble are spamming, end of story. And google might just ban their ass and their domain completely for doing it. Maybe they're not concerned as affiliates are the bulk of their sales, who knows.

What if they were targeting large TGPs like SleazyDream by making doorway pages geared like this:
See Radka Docekalova at Sleazy Dream only Sleazy_Dream has Radka_Docekalova.

That is spamming and you guys would ALL be behind Sleazy when he complained.
I refer to my thread from yesterday. This board is full of illiterate morons, asskissers and so on. It's deprivating.
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He's the best and they convert excellent...

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hahahah good for mac and bumble

wish my search engine tricks would work more often
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man.. I won't call you a idiot because I don't think you are and I think you have some what of a legitimate complaint, but the site is on topic. They are cloaking a page with heavy text and showing a page with pictures on which is on topic.

Face it the surfers are looking for pictures and not text.. They simply cloaked a SE friendly page so the picture page can look clean. I don't really see anything wrong with that. If it was off topic that would be one thing but they are on target so I don't even think google would have a issue with it.
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Crockett: you're absolutely wrong. We are NOT cloaking ANY pages whatsoever. In our tour, you can cycle through each one of the models on our site - what you see is what you get (check the Google cache).

For God's sake people, I don't see what the big deal is. When you search on any one of our models, you'll see TONS of references to Mac and Bumble in the other pages. Give it a rest - we're a popular site for glamour models.
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Crockett: you're absolutely wrong. We are NOT cloaking ANY pages whatsoever. In our tour, you can cycle through each one of the models on our site - what you see is what you get (check the Google cache).

For God's sake people, I don't see what the big deal is. When you search on any one of our models, you'll see TONS of references to Mac and Bumble in the other pages. Give it a rest - we're a popular site for glamour models.
exactly


dont worry about some stupid 18yo fuck who wants to cry because he cant get one page listed in google LOL can you believe this bitch, does a bitch act to google then comes here and posts to let us all know he is a bitch


RWF - fuck off already, youve had a big day there mate - go update your 20 paysites ROFL



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Crockett: you're absolutely wrong. We are NOT cloaking ANY pages whatsoever. In our tour, you can cycle through each one of the models on our site - what you see is what you get (check the Google cache).

For God's sake people, I don't see what the big deal is. When you search on any one of our models, you'll see TONS of references to Mac and Bumble in the other pages. Give it a rest - we're a popular site for glamour models.
first off I don't have a issue with cloaking.. up until now I've done all my stuff legit and I have a few nice SE positions that bring in a few k hits a day. However I am looking into cloaking and I intend on giving it a try.

But I did check the cached links before I posted and this is what I see..

http://www.macandbumble.com/models/R...ocekalova.html

and this is the cached page

http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache...l=en&start =9

Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I don't know much about how cloaking works, but isn't that what the second link is above? When I look at my pages in cache they look exactlly like the non cached, if it's not cloaking what is it if you don't mind me asking?
(I'm not being sarcastic at all just showing what I see, if I'm wrong I'm wrong)
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