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Old 11-04-2004, 08:53 AM   #1
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Water Fueled Cars Developed

New project is seeking funds to develop a water fueled car, like the Hydrogen based car that BMW produced:

http://www.earth2012.org/

Can you imagine if the USA government spent the $7.4 trillion on this kind of project they wouldnt have had to invade Iraq. Stupid fucks.

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Old 11-04-2004, 08:56 AM   #2
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Would this be efficient?

Many of the 'eco-friendly' models that do NOT use fossil fuels directly (ie., electric cars, etc) merely TRANSFER pollution from one source (car's engine) to electrical generation plant due to gross inefficiencies in how they generate power.

I hope this 'water' car doesn't use an electrical component for power generation or else it will suffer from the same issue outlined above.
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Old 11-04-2004, 09:28 AM   #3
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Hydrogen tranfer energy it is not an enery source.
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Old 11-04-2004, 09:35 AM   #4
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Would this be efficient?

Many of the 'eco-friendly' models that do NOT use fossil fuels directly (ie., electric cars, etc) merely TRANSFER pollution from one source (car's engine) to electrical generation plant due to gross inefficiencies in how they generate power.

I hope this 'water' car doesn't use an electrical component for power generation or else it will suffer from the same issue outlined above.
Electricity can be gotten from tons of different sources, including the wind, the sun, the tide, etc. That's a big difference with fossil fuels.
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Old 11-04-2004, 09:49 AM   #5
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Biodiesel rocks
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So the BIG trick here will be to find the "resonant frequency" of the water molecule so that the oxygen and hydrogen atoms can be split apart with minimal energy. Interesting...
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Biodiesel rocks
Yeah, biodiesel smells good too!
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Electricity can be gotten from tons of different sources, including the wind, the sun, the tide, etc. That's a big difference with fossil fuels.
Good point. Unfortunately, (exempting its recent price hike) fossil fuels are still the relatively cheapest sources of energy currently available. Since this is the case, electric-charged type vehicles still suffer from the pollution transfer argument I outlined above..

Maybe if oil stays over $50 a barrel, there would be enough investments in non-fossil based energy that would trigger lower production costs.
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Old 11-04-2004, 10:00 AM   #9
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Good point. Unfortunately, (exempting its recent price hike) fossil fuels are still the relatively cheapest sources of energy currently available.
Yeah but lets face it.... how likely is it that $7 trillion (TRILLION NOT BILLION) invested in the right projects would not find the solution?

I can almost GUARANTEE that this kind of money invested in the right scientific projects would turn up some kind of workable alternatives to oil as an energy source.
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Would this be efficient?

Many of the 'eco-friendly' models that do NOT use fossil fuels directly (ie., electric cars, etc) merely TRANSFER pollution from one source (car's engine) to electrical generation plant due to gross inefficiencies in how they generate power.
That's true, but it won't always be like that. Eventually, the hydrogen and electricity being used in these cars will be produced from renewable energy sources like wind power.

It's not really going on in any significance anywhere just yet, but these guys may as well work on the technology in the meantime.

That idea on that water powered car website about the new technique for breaking down water sure does seem interesting..
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Old 11-04-2004, 10:01 AM   #11
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LOL turning this into an iraq thread, you really ruined it from a lot of good responses.
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Biodiesel smell goods. I feel hungry by smelling it.
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So the BIG trick here will be to find the "resonant frequency" of the water molecule so that the oxygen and hydrogen atoms can be split apart with minimal energy. Interesting...
This would really be AWESOME if it can be done cheaply and efficiently. Food production and transport will definitely be revolutionized.
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Old 11-04-2004, 10:08 AM   #16
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People in the windy US should put up a windmill now for your house. Added perq: energy company is required to purchase any excess you produce (at least in NY state thats the case)

Flintstone had it right though.. a hot wife, hot neighbors wife to swap with, and kids that are parented by a pet. Foot power.
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We will never get this with Bush in the whitehouse I heard he loves Oil so much he uses it as lube when he's fucking laura...
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In the mean time, I think all new cars should be flex fuel plug in hybrid electric vehicles. That would make a big difference almost immediately.
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Good point. Unfortunately, (exempting its recent price hike) fossil fuels are still the relatively cheapest sources of energy currently available. Since this is the case, electric-charged type vehicles still suffer from the pollution transfer argument I outlined above..

Maybe if oil stays over $50 a barrel, there would be enough investments in non-fossil based energy that would trigger lower production costs.
Electricity-powered vehicles provide an infrastructure where it's relatively easy to switch to alternative energy sources gradually.
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THey will be squashed by oil companies and governments. Too much money and job will be lost.

People have invented water-powered vehicles before. You think the government would let something like that get released?
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at $156 a barrel, yeah it does
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THey will be squashed by oil companies and governments. Too much money and job will be lost.

People have invented water-powered vehicles before. You think the government would let something like that get released?
The government? There are lots of governments. Are you suggesting they are all involved in a conspiracy to keep the oil industry profitable? Do you have any evidence of this?
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