Samantha

Let me set the record straight once and for all since it does not get any higher at CCbill than me.

This is Completely FALSE. CCbill has not received any letters from it banking acquirer's or Card Associations about any terminations. I can assure you that our US banking Acquirers would not have just signed a multi year long term contract with us this year if they were planning on exiting the space.

I can also state that I have not heard of any other IPSP receiving any notice from either the Card Associations or their Acquirers about this fact. I am pretty sure that considering CCbill's position in this industry I would be one of the first to hear this, and it would not be from some anonymous guy on GFY

This being said I would have no problem recommending Paycom to any of our customers as a secondary processor. They are a leader in this industry and in my opinion second only to CCbill (I am a little biased here)

I also personally do not believe that this is a statement that was made by IBill or Penthouse management. It personally sounds like a ex employee or a soon to be ex employee that is just trying to use scare tactics to sell.

Well I am off to see a bunch of Webmasters tonight, I sure Punker Barbie is already drunk since she has been at the bar for the last 2 hrs with friends, so I will not be able to respond tonight.

Rest assured that CCbill and the Adult industry are here to stay. I am quite sure of that!!!!.

Steve and everyone else in this thread THANK YOU for your support we will not let you down

P.S. Joe (Lensman) I recommend that we Ban LAWYERSUCK for yelling fire in the theater 1 to many times. Anybody else agree?


Ron Cadwell
CEO
________________

CCbill.com
Cavecreek.com
DRMnetworks.com
New Company Comming Soon

I support this motion.

I wasted too much time reading through this thread which had little value but it was not something I could ignore because of the nature of the subject line and the current processor environment.

-Dino

five sweet words

Well, I think everyone has learned two important things from this thread:

1) Pretending to be me doesn't help you get laid at a convention.
2) Elton John is gay.

:1orglaugh


Steve Lightspeed


ps, and THANK YOU RON CADWELL

Maybe non-competition agreement with Merricks other IPSP's and also the added risk and integration Merrick would have to undergo taking on a new IPSP. It's not like IPSP's are opening every day like 4 years ago and their is a reason for that. Not saying this is the case, just providing alternate possible reasons.

Ron - Thank you very much for posting! That's a relief. :thumbsup

Mike - Could very well be.

Also I wonder... Has anybody actually confirmed that Ibill Direct uses Merrick? Or is this also just a rumor?

THANK GOD!

Ron Ccbill is my primary and has been for a long while now, I love you guys! Paycom is my new secondary (As soon as the links become active. If it was said as a scare tactic by them (Ibill) it worked, I about crapped myself cause if something like this was true we would go under. I'm glad that this has come out in the open here and trashed, I HATE rumors and did NOT post what I was told to fuel a rumor but to let people know what was being told to people like me. Like I said before, when they specifically named you guys I wanted to call and give you the heads up as to what they where telling webmasters. I wish I rememberd the 2 people we spoke with over at ccbill First was a female second was a male and they had the record set strait before I hung up. When this thead started just 30 minutes after I hung up with ccbill I thought it was important enought to warn people that yes, IBILL is claiming stuff like this to webmasters directly. I could kick myself for not saving the ICQ log with the Ibill Account Executive I was speaking with. She's my new account rep since my old one is no longer with the company.


Thanks to both Corvette and Ron for coming over here to ease our minds! Top Notch!

STEVE


Are you coming tonight? Call Cell, we can swing by with Limo.
I still want that link to those pics:)

Hope to cya out

Ron C

In a world where content and software is sold on an exclusive basis EVERY day, what makes you think that banking agreements can't be sold the same way?

I'll stand by for your answer.

I doubt it that Corvett would post. :)

The rumor is scary though, and I hope that it is just a rumor. My bank (bussiness account) was gobble up by Bank of Americia within few months recently. While depositing checks, I asked one of tellers if I should be worry. She said no but they were very strict.

I called Card Service and the rep had no clue what I was talking about...once again I hope it is just a rumor.

Lightspeed:

Add to that, - the fact that any idiot with a rumor can crawl into GFY and get 1200 views based on nada fact!

Unbelievable! :glugglug

Let him answer this and if it is unsubstantiated or if no names are mentioned then start the hangings.

There's already another thread about this as well and it needs to be dealt with.

I have no idea, that's why I was asking, to see if anybody knew what the reason was, or could be. That's why my name has "newbie" in it. Even after nearly 8 years of doing this, I still feel like I don't know anything. :1orglaugh

I'm just glad this whole thing was nothing but a rumor. If something happened to CCBill on top of this Ibill stuff, I think I'd just keel over on the spot.

Well - I've only done it twice - and it didn't work either time :(

I'll have to pretend to be AaronM next time - that way...I know without a doubt I'll get the booty :Graucho

Name the processor and your sources or STFU!

Thanks - I can't even imagine trying to deal with news like that on a day like today with Bush and all....I hope whoever it is doesnt hurt people like ibill has.

dude, the CEO of the company just came in here and said that it's bullshit. Why do you need some nobody to answer this shit to make you believe it?

I've been in it nearly as long and you know what? If I can't learn something from everyone I deal with then I need to give it up.

I know you've been around forever, but I learned from your post that it doesn't guarantee what areas of the business someone excels in. Yours isn't processing, and I'd never have realized it, since most people who go way back have had to fight to get it and fight harder to keep it.

Learning experience, thanks :)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by RonC
[B]Samantha

Let me set the record straight once and for all since it does not get any higher at CCbill than me.

This is Completely FALSE. CCbill has not received any letters from it banking acquirer's or Card Associations about any terminations. I can assure you that our US banking Acquirers would not have just signed a multi year long term contract with us this year if they were planning on exiting the space.

I can also state that I have not heard of any other IPSP receiving any notice from either the Card Associations or their Acquirers about this fact. I am pretty sure that considering CCbill's position in this industry I would be one of the first to hear this, and it would not be from some anonymous guy on GFY

This being said I would have no problem recommending Paycom to any of our customers as a secondary processor. They are a leader in this industry and in my opinion second only to CCbill (I am a little biased here)

I also personally do not believe that this is a statement that was made by IBill or Penthouse management. It personally sounds like a ex employee or a soon to be ex employee that is just trying to use scare tactics to sell.

Well I am off to see a bunch of Webmasters tonight, I sure Punker Barbie is already drunk since she has been at the bar for the last 2 hrs with friends, so I will not be able to respond tonight.

Rest assured that CCbill and the Adult industry are here to stay. I am quite sure of that!!!!.

Steve and everyone else in this thread THANK YOU for your support we will not let you down

P.S. Joe (Lensman) I recommend that we Ban LAWYERSUCK for yelling fire in the theater 1 to many times. Anybody else agree?


Ron Cadwell
CEO
________________


RonC...Lets get a few things straight:

1) I never said which company received the notice. Maybe it is or maybe it is not your company.

2) My suggestion to you to assure your customers is post the new agreement you mentioned in your thread.

3) Now since you claim that you would have been one of the first to hear about it (assuming it is not your company) I guess you weren't.

4) You are very perceptive in that this did not come from IBILL or Penthouse Management. I have already written that I have never worked for IBILL or Penthouse and I have never received a dime from either company.

5) Now put your money where your mouth is. If I am correct I will pay every one of your customers fees for 6 months. If I am correct you give them free service for 6 months. If you would rather make a personal bet name your price.

You writing that I should be banned is calling me a liar and I have already proven on this board that when I write something it is true.

Have a nice evening.

Right on. :)

I have to try this sometime too. When I was 14 got a girlfriend out of a girl calling a wrong number. Pretended to be the dude, they figured it out soon I wasn't, yet I eventually got her and her friend over to the house, THAT NIGHT!

:Oh crap

Now that made me laugh Aaron!!! :1orglaugh

:thumbsup

Uhhh if President of the USA can deny the thruth, I don't see why an adult processor can not.

In fact, any business with a brain would deny. It's a fucking business afterall.

For those who did not already hear the rumors (and I repeat RUMORS), they are that:
a) CCBill is going to soon offer a billing solution similar to iBill direct where every site owner comes with their own merchant account. Not quite a gateway solution but more of a hybrid. The rumor is that this will be an additional offering to what is already being offered and is not a changeout of the current IPSP arrangement.
b) That Paycom has been given notice by Payment Tech that they are exiting the adult market. There is even a specific date being floated around, January 31st, 2005.

I have heard many many rumors that were complete bullshit fabrication and I am in no way saying that these are true. This is just what is being floated around.

Ron and Rand have both plainly stated their positions and for the record SCORE sends transactions to both these companies right now.

Hint:


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=382999&s=


WTF!


$am

c) My last name really IS "Lightspeed".
d) Elton John was gay all along.



Steve Lightspeed

Thanks for giving us the rumors.

Sorry I've been off GFY all day and actually getting some work done.

As far as knowing who it is, doesn't really matter other than curiosity.

And with helping out, our bank is always looking to place high risk accounts. We are offshore. Anyone who is serious and wants details can contact me through ICQ.

I haven't had a chance to read through the entire thread yet so I'm probably just talking to myself.

Without even reading all the replies I quickly went through and looked for the key players in here, namely KimmyKim, Rand, RonC, Corvett and Chris Mallick. Seeing their replies, I'm not going to bother reading the rest of this thread. Glad to see the big boys (and gals) are on stable ground. Congrats, not that there was any doubt.

WG

iBill doesn't have a IPSP relation with Merrick. iBill is setting up companies with their own merchant account with Merrick and then you use iBill Direct for the gateway and other features. It's kind of confusing to some people, cause iBill has been making it confusing on purpose it seems like to keep as many clients as possiable.

I believe you end up with blue balls after this happens.

Nice to be included in that group, but the real responses come from the processors themselves, and I'm glad to see them responding.

Frankly, I'm waiting for someone from IBill to post, since at this point in this thread, I think its the only thing we should wait for.

Because it will be fun. If he has sources he should name them.

Hey Ron, speaking of pics. Was it Dave that ended-up getting the pics from the shark feeding in Curacao? Allie and I would like to get a copy of those if you know how we could track them down.

Ok so I heard about this rumor and thought I was going to vomit....so I had to come and check it out. I read it post by post...feeling sick...and then Paycom and CCBill reps replied and reassured us things were fine. Whew! I hope this is true and I'm counting on it. Every industry I get into goes to hell...hopefully this one lasts for many years to come.

As for you Steve Lightspeed...you are nasty! How can you even spread a rumor about Elton John being gay. That is so sily...I could never believe that to be true. :Graucho

Wow there's really no doubt who Lawyersuck is.

Elton John is not gay

Webstream, who we were with, have given their merchants 90 days to find other processors. They have to pull out of processing for Adult sites.

We have found alternatives.

Seems if a small processor can treat their clients properly one of the big ones is doing something wrong. With 90 days notice it would have been easy to move your billing and not lose too much money with billing and rebilling.

3 months is a long time in terms of memberships, seems Ibill had a reason to now warn their merchants. If they had a 90 notification clause in the contract with their bank, if they did not that is even scarier.