So you expect us to believe that someone from a nearly defunct company (don't get me wrong, there are people left at Ibill that I like and I have no ill wishes towards any processor) was notified that a competitor was sent a letter from their bank -- which was obviously not IBill's bank, I should mention telling them they had 90 days to find a new bank?

Can you please get with your friend at IBill and ask them what Santa Claus is bringing me or if he still needs me to send my list up to the North Pole like the rest of the kiddies?

Don't hold back, KK... tell us how you really feel... :)

She's probably talking about me. People often confuse Steve and I because we look so similar to each other after many...MANY drinks.

Cheers. :glugglug

Guess this as good a time as any to tell you. Whenever you don't show up at an event, we draw straws to see who gets to spend the weekend as you.

Is great for picking up on chickies

I know this is NOT a funny thread !! but this fuckin is !!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

LOL really? Then someone came up to me and Introduced themselves as you! Oh well, glad I didn't shoot with them on the spot! :1orglaugh

Well, if your going to pretend to be someone might as well be the best. :)

LOL...Kimmykim still believes in Santa Claus. :1orglaugh

You would have done a Lightspeed style photo shoot at a GFY party? :eek7

:)

LOL! Somebody goes around at these parties PRETENDING to be YOU to get chicks naked, LOL!:1orglaugh

What a scumbag!:1orglaugh

50 worried webmasters

People starting rumors about processors, any processors is like throwing gasoline on a brush fire around here. When anonymous people like Fast Eddie start rumors and other people substantiate them, especially site owners who are not processors, it only makes it worse.

Don't you just love rumors. Such a waste of time.

Yup I was thinking the exact same thing. I have no friends over at Ibill, just someone they passed on to me after getting rid of my rep. You can bet I about burned off my finger dialing Ccbill over it. Course they told that to me after I told them I was just thinking of pulling all the Ibill members from my site, and just having them resign up with Ccbill after they found they could not access the site anymore. (I would just end all rebillings on Ibill as the first of the month and credit back anyone already rebilled for this month) I would lose a few people, but sure most would come back. I guess I'm going to just try the GKArd thing for now and wait and see like everyone else.

Oh, definately. I was one of those in danger of bursting into flame - why I kept bumping the thread. Thankfully, CCbill posted directly - no surprise there, based on the years of good service we've experienced with them.

shame on you people, don't you know we're not allowed to say anything about ccbill on here

If the same bank ibill is now with ,the one that wants everyone on ibilldirect is the same bank as another processor .Why is that so impossible to believe?
Even the best processor in the whole probably wouldnt tell the minute they got the letter because they would lose a large chunk of their client base and there is a chance they pull thru.
Now I also wouldnt be so quick to blame iBill for the rumor. We are hearing everything second hand.

We have talked about for the longest time the third party processor model is not going to be forever. So why is it put in the same league as Santa Claus lol.

P.S. KimmyKIm you can sit on this jolly fat guys lap any time you want :)

I agree, we all have enough crap to deal with, I only wanted to point out that Ibill was actually saying stuff like this to site owners ( Like me) and if they said it to me, I'm sure they have said it to others. it may or may not be true but, to specifically name Ccbill was a shock to me and I wanted to find out for myself So I called Ccbill and gave them a heads up to it. then 30 minutes later I see this post here... Someone may have been giving a 90 day leter but I feel confident it was NOT Ccbill. Sorry if it came across like I was trying to substanciate the original post in any way, I just wanted to share that I too had been told this by Ibill.

Didn't I hear you say you'd lost a bunch of weight? ;)

The idea that Merrick, or any other bank for that matter, would tell one client something in regards to another clients banking and finance business is simply ludicrous, and that's even before we start talking about all the confidentiality and non-disclosure agreements that are standard in such financial relationships.

IF, and its a big IF, IBill were in possession of the knowledge that Merrick was going to stop processing for adult, wouldn't that mean that all the IBill Direct clients were about to be homeless yet again? Since there's no way that Merrick would dump CCBill with their history and volume, and keep a bunch of small-time pornographers on the books...

That just wouldn't make sense, would it ;)

I'd be curious to know what IBill employee told you that, since I've never known them to make those kinds of claims about their competition, even when they've been in tight spots. If I were management over there, I'd want to know which one of my overzealous remaining employees was making most likely false statements against a competitor that's never done it to me.

Ibill is now using the same bank that ccbill does. Why would Merrick dumpt ccbill and keep a new unproven model from ibill.

In the scenario you pose, Merrick might just want out of the IPSP model. They might be fine processing for adult, just not adult through an IPSP. The fact that iBill's deal with Merrick is not as an IPSP might lend some credance to this interpretation.

Interestingly a week or two back I heard rumor from someone at iBill that Epoch's ability to processing was on shakey ground. The details of the rumor aren't important and I wouldn't have mentioned it except in light of Samantha's revelation.

Someone on this board who understands this business.

I don't think I sould post her personal contact info here, but hit me on ICQ 4009474 and I let you know.

Thank you someone understands me . Kimmy Im almost at 50 lbs but have another 175lbs to go. So I will still be a jolly fat guy for awhile. :)

Ibill doesn't use Merrick.

They do for iBill Direct.

Well, if someone is using my name to help themselves get laid, good luck to them! Cuz I KNOW that shit doesn't work first hand! I couldn't get laid at a convention even if I was an EGG. lol

Steve Lightspeed

Look we just suffered a terrible blow as adult webmasters with the fucking election; the last thing we need is rumor mongering that another processor is going to bite it.

Put up or shut up. Provide proof or fuck off.

it's ccbill

You know, that never occurred to me. If Merrick is who Ibill is using for Ibill Direct, why can't they just use Merrick with the normal IPSP setup like CCBill is doing? Why did they have to go with the GKard for that?

so you're trying to tell me ccbill got this 90 day notice?

If it WAS Ccbill, do you really think their spokesperson Corvett would post here denying it?

Damn, this is irresponsible of you guys to start saying ANYTHING when you don't have any facts, other than a 3rd-hand rumor from a flunkie at IBILL

Steve Lightspeed

Who do they use then? I thought that's what all this was about. They lost processing with First Data, and had to find a merchant account. They made some deal with Merrick. Am I mistaken?

The GKard isn't with Merrick. Gkard is with a different bank.

iBill Direct and GKard are two completely different products.

Just since Epoch's name was mentioned here I'll chime in and tell you that Epoch has received no notice, and will not be receiving any notice.

Our banking is rock solid and will remain that way.

Now, get back to business.

Thanks:thumbsup

Yes, I know. That's what I'm saying. WHY did they have to go to a different bank for an IPSP-like solution/alternative to Ibill Direct.

IF Ibill is using Merrick for Ibill Direct, you would think that they would be able to use Merrick for an IPSP setup too. CCBill does. So unless there is some specific reason that Merrick would do the IPSP setup for CCBill and not Ibill, then it does make a person wonder about this rumor.

What a daft thread :2 cents: