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Old 11-03-2004, 08:17 AM   #1
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Not loyal to the US? And you call yourself an American?

What's up with you guys acting like it's the end of the world if Bush is re-elected. And why are you talking about moving to some other country?

I'm proud to be an American and living in the US. Even if Bush is re-elected and I voted for Kerry, there are still democrats in the senate and 4 years from now there'll be another election.
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:19 AM   #2
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What's up with you guys acting like it's the end of the world if Bush is re-elected. And why are you talking about moving to some other country?

I'm proud to be an American and living in the US. Even if Bush is re-elected and I voted for Kerry, there are still democrats in the senate and 4 years from now there'll be another election.
Hello. We now have a Republican ultra right wing president, and a fully Republican controlled Senate and Congress.

Break out your bibles, cause that's what the next 4 years are going to be all about.
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:46 AM   #3
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What's up with you guys acting like it's the end of the world if Bush is re-elected. And why are you talking about moving to some other country?

I'm proud to be an American and living in the US. Even if Bush is re-elected and I voted for Kerry, there are still democrats in the senate and 4 years from now there'll be another election.
Well said.

Wonder if you will feel the same in two years time.
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:53 AM   #4
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loyalty is at an all time low, along with the US dollar
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:58 AM   #5
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Germans that left Germany in the 1930's were not disloyal to Germany they didn't want to live under Hitler.
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Old 11-03-2004, 08:59 AM   #6
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No matter how much you used to love someone... if they change... if they start to go crazy... if they are screwing around on you... or getting violent... then it might be time to get a divorce. Especially if you've already exhausted all opportunities to help them. Especially if there is a more attractive partner you could be happier with.
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:04 AM   #7
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running away isn't a solution if you wanted changes in your country, rich people in my country do the same thing, when they didnt like the administration they immigrated right away in other country, and when their "dogs" won again on the election they go back here once again, look what money can do. Its just the same rite? run and run...
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:16 AM   #8
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No matter how much you used to love someone... if they change... if they start to go crazy... if they are screwing around on you... or getting violent... then it might be time to get a divorce. Especially if you've already exhausted all opportunities to help them. Especially if there is a more attractive partner you could be happier with.
Yes leave him, you and me will be much happier together.

Oh this was an election analogy..... oops... looking for the embarrassed smiley
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:28 AM   #9
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Hello. We now have a Republican ultra right wing president,
I love people who lie to make their case.
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:44 AM   #10
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What's up with you guys acting like it's the end of the world if Bush is re-elected. And why are you talking about moving to some other country?

I'm proud to be an American and living in the US. Even if Bush is re-elected and I voted for Kerry, there are still democrats in the senate and 4 years from now there'll be another election.
they want to move because the government wants to put them out of business. its not about loyalty its about survival
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Old 11-03-2004, 09:58 AM   #11
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I love people who lie to make their case.
That would explain why you voted Bush...
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Old 11-03-2004, 10:11 AM   #13
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What's up with you guys acting like it's the end of the world if Bush is re-elected. And why are you talking about moving to some other country?

I'm proud to be an American and living in the US. Even if Bush is re-elected and I voted for Kerry, there are still democrats in the senate and 4 years from now there'll be another election.

What exactly is it that you are proud of?

Are you proud that 4 years ago our system allowed a man to become President even though he didn't really win the election?

Are you proud that all the people who were so pissed off about the last election have sold out their values, turned their backs, and actually voted the bastard back into office?

Are you proud of the way that Bush has handled his war?

Fuck all that. I'm not proud to be an American. In fact, I'm embarrassed by it.

A Government of the people, by the people, and for the people? Yeah right. Get real.

Another election 4 years from now huh? Nice......I'm sure they will be just as fair and effective as the last 2.

What's so fucking great about this country? Everybody is crooked, the majority of our troops are poor kids who needed a job and the hopes of an education, and we give tax breaks to companies who send jobs out of the country.

Thinking back on history....I could swear that we fought a war to become "FREE." Now the very country that we fought has way less crime and seemingly more freedom than we do.

Proud to be an American huh? Sad.
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Old 11-03-2004, 10:28 AM   #14
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end of the world? maybe not but for me my opposition to Bush comes from a place of basic idiology. He represents things that I think are wrong. I could care less about the democratic party. I do care about the things Bush represents and to me some of those things are borderline evil but I am a tree hugging, gay loving, minority loving liberal with a world vision. If you were, you would be depressed too.

It is about having deep beliefs and knowing they mean shit today.
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Old 11-03-2004, 10:34 AM   #15
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What exactly is it that you are proud of?

Are you proud that 4 years ago our system allowed a man to become President even though he didn't really win the election?

Are you proud that all the people who were so pissed off about the last election have sold out their values, turned their backs, and actually voted the bastard back into office?

Are you proud of the way that Bush has handled his war?

Fuck all that. I'm not proud to be an American. In fact, I'm embarrassed by it.

A Government of the people, by the people, and for the people? Yeah right. Get real.

Another election 4 years from now huh? Nice......I'm sure they will be just as fair and effective as the last 2.

What's so fucking great about this country? Everybody is crooked, the majority of our troops are poor kids who needed a job and the hopes of an education, and we give tax breaks to companies who send jobs out of the country.

Thinking back on history....I could swear that we fought a war to become "FREE." Now the very country that we fought has way less crime and seemingly more freedom than we do.

Proud to be an American huh? Sad.
I couldn't agree with you more, however there ARE countries where you would be killed for saying these thing. As bad as America will be for the next four years, it COULD be a lot worse.
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