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Old 11-02-2004, 03:10 PM   #1
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Lamest Traffic I Have Ever Seen

Well actually make it #2, because 404 is even lamer...

http://buy.fpctraffic.com/

Offering 20,000 hits for $50.
$2.50 per 1000.

Looks like a good deal.

But if 8,000 are from popups and 6,000 are from exits, that is only about 1,000 who actually left the window open long enough to even realize it is a tgp. Out of those only 200 actually surf. The other 8,000 are most likely skimmed or blind thumbed and will be about 120% production... So in reality you are buying about 5,000 hits for $50. That is $10 per 1000 and that is bullshit.

Take that shitty traffic source you have created for yourself and put it in your ass.
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Old 11-02-2004, 03:12 PM   #2
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Old 11-02-2004, 03:12 PM   #3
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Old 11-02-2004, 03:16 PM   #4
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Did you actually try our traffic, or are you just flapping your gums and wasting everyone's time?
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Old 11-02-2004, 03:17 PM   #5
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Old 11-02-2004, 03:18 PM   #6
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Did you actually try our traffic, or are you just flapping your gums and wasting everyone's time?
Why would he say such thing? Go read it, idiot
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Old 11-02-2004, 03:23 PM   #7
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I ask because I don't recognize him as a buyer. If he actually tried our traffic I need to know why it didn't work on his site. The traffic works for everyone else, that's why we're basically sold out of it, and have a waiting list for larger piurchases.
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Old 11-02-2004, 03:28 PM   #8
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He's using it in a theoretical-context. Meaning, he really didn't use the service.
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Old 11-02-2004, 07:53 PM   #9
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Actually I was helping out a buddy who is starting a TGP and he is using it. After seeing the results, I had to ask, "WHY?!"

While I admit he needs some work on his thumbs, your traffic is at the low end of the scale as far as production goes. I have used many different sources myself and I know something like www.traffic-out.com would have given him about 220% minimum and as much at 420% production. It is 100% clicked, text link, looking for porn traffic.

#1 it is hard to gauge anything with the traffic because none of it seems to have a referrer.

This hour in/out/clicks prod. eff. 24hour in/out/clicks prod eff.

176 0 95 54.0% 0.0% 1856 0 1444 77.8% 0.0%

Since the site is brand knew, I know he doesn't have bookmarkers so I am figuring that the majority of the 1856 hits in is your traffic. It currently has a 77.8% production...

That is what I based my theory on, as well as the text from your site.
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Old 11-02-2004, 07:55 PM   #10
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If you don't mind an independent review right here of your traffic. I'll purchase some and post the numbers. I am not doing anything else tomorrow.
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Old 11-02-2004, 07:56 PM   #11
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Old 11-02-2004, 08:07 PM   #12
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well I'm buying from FTCtraffic.com and from traffic-for-sale.com right now. Both are pretty cheap so I didn't expect much out of it. I have bought roughly 50k from each with about 5k coming in from each per day..

So it's hard to tell which one is better, I think from what I can see they are both pretty close to the same productivity. It's at about 60 to 65%.

So all in all when looking at prices I can't really bitch too much after all it's not clicked traffic and you're not paying the price for clicked traffic either.
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Old 11-02-2004, 08:13 PM   #13
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Setup a trade for www.retnuh.com and set it to inactive... If you haven't already done that, don't tell me about traffic-out's prouctivety. And I highly doubt it is sending you 5,000 hits a day... I have never heard of hunter being able to push more than 500 to 1000 in one day to each site.
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Old 11-02-2004, 09:06 PM   #14
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well I'm buying from FTCtraffic.com and from traffic-for-sale.com right now. Both are pretty cheap so I didn't expect much out of it. I have bought roughly 50k from each with about 5k coming in from each per day..

So it's hard to tell which one is better, I think from what I can see they are both pretty close to the same productivity. It's at about 60 to 65%.

So all in all when looking at prices I can't really bitch too much after all it's not clicked traffic and you're not paying the price for clicked traffic either.
Let us know how it does
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:11 PM   #15
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Setup a trade for www.retnuh.com and set it to inactive... If you haven't already done that, don't tell me about traffic-out's prouctivety. And I highly doubt it is sending you 5,000 hits a day... I have never heard of hunter being able to push more than 500 to 1000 in one day to each site.
I misread Crokett's post. Yes, those two traffic sources you purchased from will be similar. Now buy some from www.traffic-out.com and notice the difference.
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:12 PM   #16
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:16 PM   #17
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I have used fpc 'clicked' traffic and had great results personally.. never used their exit traffic though
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Old 11-03-2004, 12:53 PM   #18
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If you don't mind an independent review right here of your traffic. I'll purchase some and post the numbers. I am not doing anything else tomorrow.
Not at all; feel free to review our traffic.

Just remember, you get what you pay for. By your numbers, our $2cpm TGP feeder traffic has a prod of 77.8%, which works out to $2.57 per 1000 out clicks. That's the number that should be the final judge of any type of feeder traffic.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:18 PM   #19
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Today my friends traffic is now at 50 - 70% production from you and 128% from the trades. He needs some thumbs work but it seems that possibly some of the traffic from you is from sites that, based on their URL's, won't jive with his TEEN/BABE site very well.

With choker I can have all of my hits come in from a link that says something akin to "More Free Teen Pics" or come in from a teen site specifically like TEENCARLA.com.

With traffic-out my link will be associated with text like "More Teen Pics" or something to that effect.

In either of the above cases, I will come out ahead no matter what because the surfer clicked the link in hopes of a site like mine being behind the door he picked. In your case the surfer is getting there how? Skim? Popup? Exit? 404?

I have tried your 'type' of traffic before. Many different versions and sellers and resellers. It never works out. The best I can hope for is 100% production but that is rarely the case. Usually it is something like what my friend is dealing with 20 - 80%.

Choker gives me about 120 - 180%
Traffic-out gives me 300 - 480%

Both might be a little more expensive but when I base it on production, they end up being less expensive.

And that is my point. No matter what I've done, I've tried to give my customer the best experience or service I could provide. I feel Choker addresses my concerns to some extend but not fully. I feel Hunter (traffic-out) shares my concerns and bases his product on those concerns. I feel that your product does not reflect those concerns and tends to reflect more your desire to make money even if it meens you will be making that money buy SELLING a product to someone that you know in your heart is inferior and not in their best interest.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:38 PM   #20
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And that is my point. No matter what I've done, I've tried to give my customer the best experience or service I could provide. I feel Choker addresses my concerns to some extend but not fully. I feel Hunter (traffic-out) shares my concerns and bases his product on those concerns. I feel that your product does not reflect those concerns and tends to reflect more your desire to make money even if it meens you will be making that money buy SELLING a product to someone that you know in your heart is inferior and not in their best interest.
That's exactly the reason that we offer a wide array of traffic products. If you want niche clicked traffic, we got that. You want end of exit chain console traffic, we got that too. You want popunders, got that. You want skimmed TGP traffic, we got that.

See, the point is to offer the customer a CHOICE. I *know* not everyone can make use of exit traffic. But, some of our customers use it brilliantly. Others stick to the clicked traffic, because they know it works for them.

We price all of our traffic according to quality; that's why exit traffic is $1.50cpm, and niche clicked traffic from our own tgps is $6/1000.

By the way, the "TGP Feeder Traffic" that you feel you have to malign was created because of the demand of our customers; they wanted something "cheap" (their words, not mine), that was good for feeding their TGPs.
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Old 11-03-2004, 01:39 PM   #21
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you ask me? it's pretty darn Lame. as in lame.
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here is a novel idea,,,create your own traffic
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I do... that is why I don't purchase it anymore.
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I do... that is why I don't purchase it anymore.
OK then,,,get back to work,,,this ain't no rest home
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OK then,,,get back to work,,,this ain't no rest home
I did, that is why you won't get another reply.
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