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Old 10-28-2004, 08:40 PM   #3
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/10/28/halliburton/index.html

we have a whistle-blower........

Cheney's company, in which he has millions in stock options, wins no-bid contracts.

The FBI has not yet interviewed chief contracting officer Bunnatine Greenhouse, the whistle-blower, but has collected several documents related to the contracts.

Greenhouse has charged that the Army Corps of Engineers gave billions of dollars worth of contracts to Kellogg, Brown and Root, a Halliburton subsidiary, without accepting bids from other companies.
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Old 10-28-2004, 08:43 PM   #4
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And they say it has nothing to do with money...
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Old 10-28-2004, 08:43 PM   #5
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Internaltional business is built around corruption. That's just the way things work.

Its always been conducted with payoffs, bribes, deceit, trickery, extortion, underhanded dealings, knockoffs, etc.

Its so blatantly obvious how companies like Bechtel, Flour, Haliburton, and all the other connected firms always get the billion dollar fuck the taxpayer as much as we can contracts.

They're all scumbags and so are the politicians and lobbyists that do their dirty work for them.
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Old 10-28-2004, 08:45 PM   #6
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Internaltional business is built around corruption. That's just the way things work.

Its always been conducted with payoffs, bribes, deceit, trickery, extortion, underhanded dealings, knockoffs, etc.

Its so blatantly obvious how companies like Bechtel, Flour, Haliburton, and all the other connected firms always get the billion dollar fuck the taxpayer as much as we can contracts.

They're all scumbags and so are the politicians and lobbyists that do their dirty work for them.
True, but it doesnt make it right.
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Old 10-28-2004, 08:45 PM   #7
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About time this business has been bad for a long time...
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Old 10-28-2004, 08:45 PM   #8
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Good, I hope they come out with the dirty truth.
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Old 10-28-2004, 08:54 PM   #9
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Internaltional business is built around corruption. That's just the way things work.

Its always been conducted with payoffs, bribes, deceit, trickery, extortion, underhanded dealings, knockoffs, etc.

Its so blatantly obvious how companies like Bechtel, Flour, Haliburton, and all the other connected firms always get the billion dollar fuck the taxpayer as much as we can contracts.

They're all scumbags and so are the politicians and lobbyists that do their dirty work for them.
yeah when I go to DC I stay at the hay adams hotel and you can see in the ball room there a bunch of rich exec. hanging out with politicians

one has a suit from mens warehouse all fucked up one has a 5000 dollar brioni suit
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:11 PM   #10
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What contracts? The ones in Iraq? Is there a law saying the US Government must allow companies to bid on contracts in a war zone in a foreign country?
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:22 PM   #11
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What contracts? The ones in Iraq? Is there a law saying the US Government must allow companies to bid on contracts in a war zone in a foreign country?
That's an excellent point. I don't know if their is a law or not and I don't know much about the particulars of the investigation. From somebody not in-the-know looking in, I'd say it's fair to investigate a company that has ties to a man who wanted to go to war, especially if he's going to profit from it. Again, I don't even know if he will or the particulars of the case. I think it's one of the means to break monopolies and unfair competition.

I would need to read about this more to make a call either way. I'm not privy to the investigation or even the details of the accusation or the normal protocol.
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:23 PM   #12
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That's an excellent point. I don't know if their is a law or not and I don't know much about the particulars of the investigation. From somebody not in-the-know looking in, I'd say it's fair to investigate a company that has ties to a man who wanted to go to war, especially if he's going to profit from it. Again, I don't even know if he will or the particulars of the case. I think it's one of the means to break monopolies and unfair competition.

I would need to read about this more to make a call either way. I'm not privy to the investigation or even the details of the accusation or the normal protocol.
www.fbi.gov after you read you might wanna call them and tell them why they should cancel this investigation
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:30 PM   #13
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www.fbi.gov after you read you might wanna call them and tell them why they should cancel this investigation
Seriously Escort, how do you address RocHard's question?

Is a government legally compelled to allow bids on contracts during war?
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:35 PM   #14
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Seriously Escort, how do you address RocHard's question?

Is a government legally compelled to allow bids on contracts during war?
ok lets talk facts the govt. is already investigating them for overcharging, they admited they did and said oh we will just return the money.

Roc hard knows what you and I know but what I do know is that the FBI is investigating and if they are they have a good reason too.

And I agree there are not many big boys that can do what halliburton does but just to hand out blind overpriced contracts to them without looking at anyone else is fucked up IF THERE WAS SOMEONE ELSE, and if they are being investigated there is a good fuckin reason for it.
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:36 PM   #15
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Seriously Escort, how do you address RocHard's question?

Is a government legally compelled to allow bids on contracts during war?

And there is your answer on why we went to war to begin with.
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Old 10-28-2004, 09:37 PM   #16
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and because its so obvious that people here dont know how to click and read before opening their mouth ill copy and paste it here:

WASHINGTON - The FBI has begun investigating whether the Pentagon improperly awarded no-bid contracts to Halliburton Co., seeking an interview with a top Army contracting officer and collecting documents from several government offices.

The line of inquiry expands an earlier FBI investigation into whether Halliburton overcharged taxpayers for fuel in Iraq, and it elevates to a criminal matter the election-year question of whether the Bush administration showed favoritism to Vice President Dick Cheney?s former company.

FBI agents this week sought permission to interview Bunnatine Greenhouse, the Army Corps of Engineers? chief contracting officer who went public last weekend with allegations that her agency unfairly awarded KBR, a Halliburton subsidiary, no-bid contracts worth billions of dollars for work in Iraq, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press.

Asked about the documents, Greenhouse?s lawyers said Thursday their client will cooperate but that she wants whistle-blower protection from Pentagon retaliation.

?I think it (the FBI interview request) underscores the seriousness of the misconduct, and it also demonstrates how courageous Ms. Greenhouse was for stepping forward,? said Stephen Kohn, one of her attorneys.


?The initiation of an FBI investigation into criminal misconduct will help restore public confidence,? Kohn said. ?The Army must aggressively protect Ms. Greenhouse from the retaliation she will encounter as a result of blowing the whistle on this misconduct.?

FBI agents also recently began collecting documents from Army offices in Texas and elsewhere to examine how and why Halliburton, a Houston-based oil services conglomerate, got the no-bid work.

?The Corps is absolutely cooperating with the FBI, and it has been an ongoing effort,? said Army Corps spokeswoman Carol Sanders. ?Our role is to cooperate. It?s a public contract and public funds. We?ve been providing them information for quite a while.?

The FBI declined to comment Thursday, but a law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the investigation does not involve anyone in the White House ? including Cheney?s office.


Wendy Hall, a Halliburton spokeswoman, said the company is cooperating with various investigations, but she dismissed the latest revelation as election politics. She noted Congress? auditing arm, the Government Accountability Office, found the company?s no-bid work in Iraq was legal.

?The old allegations have once again been recycled, this time one week before the election,? Hall said. ?The GAO said earlier this year that the contract was properly awarded because Halliburton was the only contractor that could do the work.

?We look forward to the end of the election, because no matter who is elected president, Halliburton is proud to serve the troops just as we have for the past 60 years for both Democrat and Republican administrations,? she said.

Cheney spokesman Kevin Kellems, asked if investigators had contacted the vice president or his office about the contracts, said they had not.

Democrats have tried to make Halliburton an election-year issue, and vice presidential candidate John Edwards quickly seized upon the latest development. In a CBS interview, Edwards said there was a ?long pattern of favoritism? between the Bush administration and its well-connected friends.

Sen. Frank Lautenberg, a Democrat on the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee who has been investigating Halliburton?s contracts, said his office was told the FBI recently sought documents from various government offices. The requests focused on how and why Halliburton got the Iraq contracts.

?This multibillion dollar no-bid contract to Halliburton was suspicious from day one, and now our worst suspicions are confirmed,? Lautenberg said. ?The FBI doesn?t get involved unless there are possible criminal violations.?

In a formal whistle-blower complaint filed last week, Greenhouse alleged the award of contracts without competition to KBR puts at risk ?the integrity of the federal contracting program as it relates to a major defense contractor.? The contracts were to restore Iraq?s oil industry.

Among the evidence cited in the complaint was an internal 2003 Pentagon e-mail that says the Iraq contract ?has been coordinated? with Cheney?s White House office.

The vice president, who continues to receive deferred compensation from when he was Halliburton?s chief executive in the late 1990s, has steadfastly maintained he has played no role in the selection of his former company for federal business.

The Army last week referred Greenhouse?s allegations to the Defense Department?s inspector general. Documents show FBI agents from Quad Cities, Ill., asked Tuesday to interview Greenhouse. Her lawyers declined to discuss the contacts.

Greenhouse alleged in her complaint that after her superiors signed off on the Iraq business in February 2003, a month before the war began, and returned it for her necessary approval, she specifically asked why the work was being extended for several years.

Beside her signature, Greenhouse wrote: ?I caution that extending this sole-source effort beyond a one-year period could convey an invalid perception that there is not strong intent for a limited competition,? the complaint said.

The oil restoration work was given to KBR without competitive bidding through 10 separate work assignments called ?task orders.? The orders were issued under an existing contract between Halliburton and the U.S. military that was awarded competitively in December 2001.

While the Corps was authorized to spend up to $7 billion for the oil restoration work, the actual cost so far has been $2.5 billion. Halliburton is still working on the oil facilities, but it is now operating under a new, competitively awarded contract
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What contracts? The ones in Iraq? Is there a law saying the US Government must allow companies to bid on contracts in a war zone in a foreign country?
I'm pretty damn sure all government contracts must be open for bids.
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