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Evil1 · 10-28-2004, 04:21 PM

gonna need a link on this one corky

EscortBiz · 10-28-2004, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by Evil1
gonna need a link on this one corky

lol was a joke for god sake

but if you want a link to somethin here ya go

kevink · 10-28-2004, 04:24 PM

dude, WTF?!

WiredGuy · 10-28-2004, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
lol was a joke for god sake

Jesus, don't scare me like that.
WG

whee · 10-28-2004, 04:26 PM

About F*CKING time

Evil1 · 10-28-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
lol was a joke for god sake

i started chain smoking after reading the title.. thanks..

Fake Nick · 10-28-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
Jesus, don't scare me like that.
WG

what's it gonna be WG ? on the one hand you try to create the impression you have a good relationship with google, thus know people aside from the google adwords sales reps

on the other hand you want to create the impression you are a notorious google spammer

you cant have both ...

EscortBiz · 10-28-2004, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
what's it gonna be WG ? on the one hand you try to create the impression you have a good relationship with google, thus know people aside from the google adwords sales reps

on the other hand you want to create the impression you are a notorious google spammer

you cant have both ...

on the other hand whats your real nick?

whee · 10-28-2004, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
on the other hand whats your real nick?

LOL... Good one

WiredGuy · 10-28-2004, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
what's it gonna be WG ? on the one hand you try to create the impression you have a good relationship with google, thus know people aside from the google adwords sales reps

on the other hand you want to create the impression you are a notorious google spammer

you cant have both ...

1) I do have a good relationship with several people at Google from their Toronto to New York to California Offices ranging from AdWords to traditional SEO.

2) I also have my own interests in Google's regular listings, whether it be using blackhat or whitehat methods, it's entirely up to me.

I hardly see this as conflicting interests but rather trying to gain as much marketshare as possible.

WG

MattO · 10-28-2004, 04:31 PM

Shit I read the thread title and got all sweaty and cold

WiredGuy · 10-28-2004, 04:32 PM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
on the other hand you want to create the impression you are a notorious google spammer

If that was truly the case, try to find one of my domains that I'm spamming on Google and report me to them. Here's the link to help you out: http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html

WG

Theo · 10-28-2004, 04:32 PM

i think im safe

MonsterCock · 10-28-2004, 04:32 PM

Thats a pretty big issue for search engines nowadays. They want their content to be full of unique content. and who else will be their security?

Napolean · 10-28-2004, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
Jesus, don't scare me like that.
WG

I opened this thread solely to see your reaction

raster · 10-28-2004, 04:45 PM

made me look, got a little worried

Doctor Dre · 10-28-2004, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
Jesus, don't scare me like that.
WG

:P I don'T know what would be their proof

Dagwolf · 10-28-2004, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
.

"Some people will put 'owned' on anything."

alexg · 10-28-2004, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by EscortBiz
on the other hand whats your real nick?

Repetitive Monkey

Fake Nick · 10-28-2004, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
If that was truly the case, try to find one of my domains that I'm spamming on Google and report me to them. Here's the link to help you out: http://www.google.com/contact/spamreport.html

WG

I don't care about google spam, all I stated was that it doesnt make sense for someone who knows someone that matters over at google and claims to have a good relation with them to abuse their SE , doesn't make sense to me, you know they don't like it , yet you do it

it would be the same that you post here pretend to be Lens his friend / good affiliate , but behind his back you use adult.com content to promote nastydollars or something like that

backstabbing is what we call it

WiredGuy · 10-28-2004, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
I don't care about google spam, all I stated was that it doesnt make sense for someone who knows someone that matters over at google and claims to have a good relation with them to abuse their SE , doesn't make sense to me, you know they don't like it , yet you do it

it would be the same that you post here pretend to be Lens his friend / good affiliate , but behind his back you use adult.com content to promote nastydollars or something like that

backstabbing is what we call it

Why not? I see them as two different business models. On the one hand, PPC advertising and their adwords/adsense programs make money and I have good contacts and reps at Google who handle my accounts very well. At the same time, I also do SEO work to get listed on the free side of Google's listings. If they like it or not is not really of my concern. They make money from my PPC dollars and I make money from their free listings. I call it maximizing my returns. If they don't like it, they're more than welcome to start banning some of my domains and/or PPC accounts.

WG

Fake Nick · 10-28-2004, 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
Why not? I see them as two different business models. On the one hand, PPC advertising and their adwords/adsense programs make money and I have good contacts and reps at Google who handle my accounts very well. At the same time, I also do SEO work to get listed on the free side of Google's listings. If they like it or not is not really of my concern. They make money from my PPC dollars and I make money from their free listings. I call it maximizing my returns. If they don't like it, they're more than welcome to start banning some of my domains and/or PPC accounts.

WG

ok, so you just know a google adwords / adsense sales rep like everyone else , dont make it look like anything else then , kind of dumb .......

Jer · 10-28-2004, 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
ok, so you just know a google adwords / adsense sales rep like everyone else , dont make it look like anything else then , kind of dumb .......

WG knows even the Pope.

I know God, He's my buddy.

WiredGuy · 10-28-2004, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
ok, so you just know a google adwords / adsense sales rep like everyone else , dont make it look like anything else then , kind of dumb .......

If that's what you want to assume, be my guest. Let me worry about my business, you worry about yours.

WG

Fake Nick · 11-01-2004, 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
If that's what you want to assume, be my guest. Let me worry about my business, you worry about yours.

WG

I am not assuming anything

if you would actually know SOMEONE at google and still ABUSE their SE you officially are a BACKSTABBER

WiredGuy · 11-01-2004, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
if you would actually know SOMEONE at google and still ABUSE their SE you officially are a BACKSTABBER

If you know how to take advantage of a search engine's algorithm, whether or not I know anyone at the search engine is irrelevant. This isn't based on friendship, it's based on business.

WG

Fake Nick · 11-01-2004, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
If you know how to take advantage of a search engine's algorithm, whether or not I know anyone at the search engine is irrelevant. This isn't based on friendship, it's based on business.

WG

so if you knew you could get away with using Adult.com images for promoting Lighspeed.com you would also do it ?

same thing same result , you = backstabber

WiredGuy · 11-01-2004, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
so if you knew you could get away with using Adult.com images for promoting Lighspeed.com you would also do it ?

same thing same result , you = backstabber

No, the example you gave is copyright infringement. What I do is get my pages into the top of Google. One is a crime, the other is taking advantage of an algorithm.

WG

Fake Nick · 11-01-2004, 11:11 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
No, the example you gave is copyright infringement. What I do is get my pages into the top of Google. One is a crime, the other is taking advantage of an algorithm.

WG

no the example I gave is backstabbing , where you misuse someones trust

in both cases the company trusts you to do what is right

WiredGuy · 11-01-2004, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
no the example I gave is backstabbing , where you misuse someones trust

in both cases the company trusts you to do what is right

What trust? I never said I was friends with Google. I never made a promise, contract or anything that was implicit or explicit with Google stating I would not use what I know for financial gain. If that was the case, I'd be out of work right about now. What I know about the search engines is not entirely through experimentation. It's through the contacts and networks of people who work at these search engines. If they told me something that I shouldn't know, then I guess those people compromised a trade secret. But hey, if you think I'm a backstabber who's using what I know illegally, here you go, try shooting these people an email: [email protected]

I'm sure they'd be interested to know that I'm using Google for profit.

WG

OzMan · 11-01-2004, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
no the example I gave is backstabbing , where you misuse someones trust

in both cases the company trusts you to do what is right

I know you are not really serious and just like trying to pick fights but you might want to develop some actual reasoning behind your arguments next time.

According to your "fuzzy" logic:

Any webmaster who does anything to optimize their site is guilty of misusing Google's trust. So we are all guilty including you.

We are also all likewise guilty of misusing Lensman's trust by not posting under our real names, including you.

Fake Nick · 11-01-2004, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
What trust? I never said I was friends with Google. I never made a promise, contract or anything that was implicit or explicit with Google stating I would not use what I know for financial gain. If that was the case, I'd be out of work right about now. What I know about the search engines is not entirely through experimentation. It's through the contacts and networks of people who work at these search engines. If they told me something that I shouldn't know, then I guess those people compromised a trade secret. But hey, if you think I'm a backstabber who's using what I know illegally, here you go, try shooting these people an email: [email protected]

I'm sure they'd be interested to know that I'm using Google for profit.

WG

I know backstabbers usually also are rats , but I am neither....

WiredGuy · 11-01-2004, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
I know backstabbers usually also are rats , but I am neither....

Be my guest, I don't mind. In fact, I could use a contact from Google's legal team.

WG

Fake Nick · 11-01-2004, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by OzMan
I know you are not really serious and just like trying to pick fights but you might want to develop some actual reasoning behind your arguments next time.

According to your "fuzzy" logic:

Any webmaster who does anything to optimize their site is guilty of misusing Google's trust. So we are all guilty including you.

We are also all likewise guilty of misusing Lensman's trust by not posting under our real names, including you.

you probably don't know what black hat seo is

so stfu

thank you

OzMan · 11-01-2004, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
you probably don't know what black hat seo is

so stfu

thank you

You are welcome.

The lines between white, grey and black are blurred and constantly shifting but any serious optimizing either involves blackhat or will be viewed as such so we are all "guilty".

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