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jimmyf · 08-27-2001, 04:33 PM

I don't get these kinds of things either but I also use NetScape. I've said it I don't know how many times "you IE
users keep on keeping on".
Talk all the shit you want about Netscape.

I think thehun is 100% right about you people need another browser. This stuff is never going to stop because look
at who makes it
Microsoft and they can not nor can any one else make bug free software. But they could do alot more on security
but they never will until they lost at least 20% of market share.

And they never will loose 20% of market share
with people like you people using there Browser. Hell most of you don't even bother to check the web pages you do
now with Netscape and I know that as fact because I've
visited your page.

My self am going to put up a little message
on my pages and tell the surfer's about what's going on with IE (Microsoft products
and with a link to Netscape.

I use IE for one thing, to check my OWN pages
and THAT's it.

Jim

Amputate Your Head · 08-27-2001, 04:43 PM

That's all good and well.... but it isn't US that need a new browser. We may be fully aware of what is going on behind the code, but it is the SURFERS, who do not know any better and will continue to use the browsers that are popular. Finding a way to correct THAT problem will go alot farther to solving our webmaster problems than arguing over whether or not Netscrap is better than IE.

Lord Assmore · 08-27-2001, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jimmyf:
I don't get these kinds of things either but I also use NetScape...

Yep, IE has all sorts of security holes-- it's completely riddled--and the latest scams, scumware like Toptext/Surf+, utilize the Browser Helper Object (note the irony in the name) in Internet Explorer for their malicious tactics.

The Hun has just posted an instructive article about it, written by Hypnos: http://www.thehun.net/articles/bhocop/

wolfshade · 08-28-2001, 12:13 AM

This was posted on my board

You all thing we should mail em as they requested?

Quote:

hey wolfshade..I grew nuts and called ezula to give them 2 cents on their traffic stealing software..they want to hear from us unhappy webmasters at
[email protected]

that's what the dweib on the phone said after I told him that I have a judge in Iowa that would love to see them steal from me..hehe

then I followed my instructions and mailed this to

[email protected] incase you guys missed it above...hehe this is my 2 cents to them

I am pissed as hell about this
If I find your companys software stealing traffic from my sites or any clients I host you will be in court...Grow up and learn how to get traffic for your clients without stealing which by the way is ILLLEGAL IN THIS COUNTRY regardless if its web traffic or my tv in my house..theft is theft so push the issue and find out what the judge has to say

Ohhh and by the way pretty much every webmaster on the web knows about your script and paybacks are hell

Have a wonderful day thiefs

tricia

Well it wouldn't be spamming since they asked for it

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Lord Assmore · 08-28-2001, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wolfshade:
You all thing we should mail em as they requested?

I think we all should email Ezula. At least it's some action... But don't use your regular reply address. It has been reported on other boards that people have been receiving lots of spam/junk mails efter emailing Ezula. The general assumption is that Ezula is selling these email addresses to spam lists

Latest news on Gator and other scumware:
Online Publishers Seek Ways to Fend Off Gator http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2001...ator_dc_1.html

Chorus of Gator critics grows http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6986199.html (good article)

playa · 08-28-2001, 11:18 AM

download this program http://www.lavasoftusa.com/

you will be amazed how many spyware shit is on your PC,,,found out how that mysterious pop was coming from,,,and it wasn't from blackstonedata,,,

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Lord Assmore · 08-28-2001, 11:45 AM

Lavasoft's Ad-Aware is a nice program. But I fear that mainly advanced user will get it to cleanse their computers from spyware and adware.

Millions of copies of Gator, Kazaa and other "freeware" that installs scumware, have already been downloaded, and the rate is increasing. Almost all these users won't be aware what these programs are doing to their computers, and so they will become targets of Gator's overlaying with its own banners on sites and Ezula's/TopText's insertion of yellow sponsor links in web pages and alteration of already existing hyperlinks.

[This message has been edited by Lord Assmore (edited 08-28-2001).]

tradermcduck · 08-28-2001, 12:56 PM

From my point of view this is THE BIGGEST THREAT for all webmasters ever!!!

For more info check out GeekTalk - forum StopScum (geektalk is the number one high quality board for web publishers) http://66.33.83.213/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=7f101c4d082862cff4b0f1a581cacbf d&forumid=32

By the way what is yahoo doing against this???

ronnie · 08-28-2001, 05:36 PM

You know it seems like it's getting harder every day to make money online, and like some one else mentioned, the net seems to be turning into a big shit pit. I hate to be negative, maybe it's time for a vaction..

What I still don't understand is how this can be legal? Every where I read, it is legal because the the surfer knows about it when they install or download the scum ware. But just like this whole thread is about, it's the websites that are getting ripped off, not the surfer. Just like everything I've read from Gator's cheif or what ever, it's the same, "It's legal because the sufer knows", well the surfer is not the one getting the shaft! If top text can change my pages, how can that be legal? I made those pages, they are on my server, my domain, my bandwidth at at my cost and they are servering their ads so they make money, there's no way that can be legal!

Seems like it would be very easy for any big company with the resources to document whats happening and sue the pants off them. Install their scumware, do screen shots and avs's or mpg's of it happening. Am I thinking wrong?

To me it's like a newspaper stand taking all the magazines off their shelves, pasting their own ads over the ones there. Then putting them back on the shelf to sell. Whats the difference? Would the magazines stand for that? I guess it's just a matter of time some one actually goes after them. I would hope it happens and maybe even some ruling or law against any program doing the same crap. Maybe I'm thinking in the clouds..

ronnie

jimmyf · 08-28-2001, 07:49 PM

There is something you webmasters can do.
I put this on some of my pages.

Is that software you down loaded really FREE
Click Here and find out about
SpyWare I hate this stuff

So do something, let the surfer know about this crap. Am also going to put a link to
Ad-Ware on my site's.

With a link to below.
http://www.alphalink.com.au/~johnf/dspypdf.html

Jim

CDSmith · 08-28-2001, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ronnie:
Seems like it would be very easy for any big company with the resources to document whats happening and sue the pants off them. Install their scumware, do screen shots and avs's or mpg's of it happening. Am I thinking wrong?

Not at all. I'll be way surprised if we don't hear about a class action suit against these companies in the near future.

Think about it. A better example than the "magazine" example above would be TV commercials. How long do you think I'd get away with running a program that inserted my own advertising overtop of every commercial during a superbowl? If it were possible (and I think it is), would I be right in saying it's legal because the veiwer knows? Bullshit. It would be theft, plain and simple, and the fuckazoids at gator and ezula know it.

Big lawsuit, big big lawsuit, and why? Because some fuckers are just plain greedy with no fucking morals or a sense of fair play.
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wolfshade · 08-29-2001, 03:51 AM

An idea:
Take a dialer and zip it then put it up for download on kazaa in all XXX descriptions you can think of

That oughta teach them

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The Hun · 08-29-2001, 04:37 AM

I might be a step closer the who's behind the consoles on certain websites. Might be time to close down this guy's server. I need to know for sure it's the guy thoug.

I got a report today from someone that said http://209.132.212.42/logurl/loadURL....html/650904:M loaded every time he visited my page

209.132.212.42 is owned by
National Telemedia Corporation in Calabasas, California.

The 'title' of the page in the console is wet4free.com. But I think they're using an affiliate program at wet4free. How do I get on phone with someone that runs the affiliate programs there? The account these fuckers have with greatplugin.com was already removed. Although I think greatplugin now prospers off this scam, 'cause the link appears to be still working...

In the source of http://209.132.212.42/ there's a whole bunch of links to affiliate programs that might be used to generate money from this scam

I know some of the big sites (including mine) are attacked by these people. A very simple piece of JavaScript (caught before on my page by some people ;-) can easily take care of their server. That means a console will pop up, but won't load. Still annoying, but if the program doesn't result in any traffic they won't make any money while they still have bills to pay. In the end I'm sure the big sites will have the longest breath.

I think it's time to dig up the old battle ax and do some screwing with their server...

But is there anybody that knows more about National Telemedia Corporation (before we start nailing the wrong people)

XXXforU · 08-29-2001, 08:38 AM

Funny not to see the biggest fucker of them all on that list of domains... eBay.com

Wonder why?

Lane · 08-29-2001, 12:17 PM

cant they include all urls regardless the domain?

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XXXforU · 08-29-2001, 02:00 PM

Hehe, go get em' Hun...

Quote:

[script>
* preloading stuff off someone that is entrapping people in some console trap. He pissed me off
//var a = new Image(); a.src="http://209.98.58.2/g/g.htm";
//var b = new Image(); b.src="http://209.98.58.2/g/dial.htm";

//var a=new Image(); a.src="http://www.greatplugin.com/graphics/progress2a.gif";
//var b=new Image(); b.src="http://www.greatplugin.com";
</script]

Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do! These fuckers deserve every bit of BW charges they may incur.

[This message has been edited by XXXforU (edited 08-29-2001).]

VVGV · 08-29-2001, 02:11 PM

National Telemedia Corporation in Calabasas, California i believe is CyberErotica.
So i wouldnot recommend screwing with them. They are way too big.

stangster · 08-29-2001, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VVGV:
National Telemedia Corporation in Calabasas, California i believe is CyberErotica.
So i wouldnot recommend screwing with them. They are way too big.

So does that give them a right to do this?

Vony · 08-29-2001, 03:02 PM

http://biz.yahoo.com/e/001219/rick.html

Ron Levi, age 49, has been a director and officer of National Telemedia Corporation since 1991. Since 1992, Mr. Levi has been a director and officer of Voice Media, Inc. In July, 2000, Mr. Levi was appointed to our board in connection with our acquisition of certain assets of Voice Media, Inc. Voice Media, Inc. and the National Telemedia Corporation are global Internet media companies, focusing on Internet development and Electronic commerce applications for Web based entertainment products, including the development of proprietary technologies, industry-defining systems and marketing processes.

Lane · 08-29-2001, 04:04 PM

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Eddie · 08-29-2001, 05:28 PM

Guys I wonder what is wrong with you?

Don't you believe that these companies double checked it 10 times to assure that it is legal what they are doing?

So even if it is not the nicest thing I still think that if it is legal it is ok.

Just because a guy like the hun doesn't like what's going on he still has no right to attack their servers or threaten their business in any way.

Well ... I can't wait until the hun strikes his ax and they strike back with their attourney and a BIG lawsuit.

However I can't see the problem with such type of software if users are able to deinstall it at any time and that webmasters are able to add their URLs in a blocking list or however you call that and the ad proggie doesn't do its work on that specific site. I know for sure one company who is that honest.

It is just another way of advertisement and in my oppinion the hun harmed this industry too much to complain about such things.

tmknight · 08-29-2001, 06:09 PM

Programs such as Toptext do not allow website owners to block out domains.

It has not been proven legal, nor has it been proven illegal.

That is why the IAB is most likely going to take Gator court. There isn't a set precedent for exactly what these programs do. The only thing close is ad/popup-blockers programs which were never taken to court.

Once it goes to court, it will most certainly be declared illegal. Such practices are not allowed in print media or television media and would already had gone to court and lost. Because the internet is the medium, it takes longer to get things done.

These companies are going to be so drowned in law suit, I doubt they'll have the time or resources to sue anyone themselves.

The Hun · 08-30-2001, 03:28 AM

Hold on, hold on... If this company is Cybererotica then I'm pretty sure they're not behind this. Same thing with greatplugin.com (the 'hotlink' on my site is commented out, it never was active). That's why I posted the info on this IP-address.

The people that run this crap software are popping up consoles with affiliate programs. I'm sure CyberErotica will find out and they might stop payment on 'em. I'll give 'em a call later today to see what they can do about this.

tradermcduck · 08-30-2001, 04:52 AM

@ TheHun

wet4free is an email affiliate program from cybererotica. Ask them who has got account number 650904 and then... :-)

*DialerGurl* · 08-30-2001, 07:02 AM

There seems to be a little bit of confusion regarding our involvement in this.

This company signed up with us for a dialer at Telcoweb.com on the 16th of August. The affilate ID he received was was 15066. This software popped up greatplugin.com in certain instances in replacement of other adult web pages using this same ID. This account had done 10 calls before it was brought to our attention by the Hun. We immediately deactivated the account and passed on the details to our Lawyer who is now dealing with this.

No Adware or any other type of software is bundled with our dialer. This affiliate sent the stolen webtraffic he obtained with his software to our domain greatplugin.com. He never got paid for his efforts and it is now in the hands of our attorney

Any questions please contact me.

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Aquaman · 08-30-2001, 12:49 PM

About Gator and TopText, I think you should read this:
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6986199.html
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6995976.html

Enjoy!

Amputate Your Head · 08-30-2001, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tradermcduck:
@ TheHun

wet4free is an email affiliate program from cybererotica. Ask them who has got account number 650904 and then... :-)

Exactly... CyberErotica is not doing this... that page is using an affiliate code. CyberErotica doesn't need to use affiliate codes for their own program. Find who 's acct # that is and you find your perp.

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V_RocKs · 07-17-2005, 11:55 PM

The Hun posts here?

JOKER · 07-17-2005, 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

The Hun posts here?

Not too often, but yes... you had to bump a 4yr old thread to ask that?

reed_4 · 07-18-2005, 12:02 AM

DAmnit, i hate this spywares. my Pc in malfunctioning again.

NTSS · 07-18-2005, 12:07 AM

Damn this thread is old!

07-18-2005, 12:02 AM	#80
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07-18-2005, 12:07 AM	#81
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08-27-2001, 04:33 PM	#51
jimmyf OU812 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 12,651	I don't get these kinds of things either but I also use NetScape. I've said it I don't know how many times "you IE users keep on keeping on". Talk all the shit you want about Netscape. I think thehun is 100% right about you people need another browser. This stuff is never going to stop because look at who makes it Microsoft and they can not nor can any one else make bug free software. But they could do alot more on security but they never will until they lost at least 20% of market share. And they never will loose 20% of market share with people like you people using there Browser. Hell most of you don't even bother to check the web pages you do now with Netscape and I know that as fact because I've visited your page. My self am going to put up a little message on my pages and tell the surfer's about what's going on with IE (Microsoft products and with a link to Netscape. I use IE for one thing, to check my OWN pages and THAT's it. Jim

08-27-2001, 04:43 PM	#52
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	That's all good and well.... but it isn't US that need a new browser. We may be fully aware of what is going on behind the code, but it is the SURFERS, who do not know any better and will continue to use the browsers that are popular. Finding a way to correct THAT problem will go alot farther to solving our webmaster problems than arguing over whether or not Netscrap is better than IE.

08-28-2001, 11:18 AM	#56
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	download this program http://www.lavasoftusa.com/ you will be amazed how many spyware shit is on your PC,,,found out how that mysterious pop was coming from,,,and it wasn't from blackstonedata,,, ------------------ ------------ Playa icq#38147712 Got a Black site or category? Get a Black Dialer!! www.NoBSdialer.com

08-28-2001, 11:45 AM	#57
Lord Assmore Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: The Periphery Posts: 588	Lavasoft's Ad-Aware is a nice program. But I fear that mainly advanced user will get it to cleanse their computers from spyware and adware. Millions of copies of Gator, Kazaa and other "freeware" that installs scumware, have already been downloaded, and the rate is increasing. Almost all these users won't be aware what these programs are doing to their computers, and so they will become targets of Gator's overlaying with its own banners on sites and Ezula's/TopText's insertion of yellow sponsor links in web pages and alteration of already existing hyperlinks. [This message has been edited by Lord Assmore (edited 08-28-2001).]

08-28-2001, 12:56 PM	#58
tradermcduck Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Europe - By the way I know my nickname sucks ;-) Posts: 2,362	From my point of view this is THE BIGGEST THREAT for all webmasters ever!!! For more info check out GeekTalk - forum StopScum (geektalk is the number one high quality board for web publishers) http://66.33.83.213/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=7f101c4d082862cff4b0f1a581cacbf d&forumid=32 By the way what is yahoo doing against this???

08-28-2001, 05:36 PM	#59
ronnie Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Central IL Posts: 19	You know it seems like it's getting harder every day to make money online, and like some one else mentioned, the net seems to be turning into a big shit pit. I hate to be negative, maybe it's time for a vaction.. What I still don't understand is how this can be legal? Every where I read, it is legal because the the surfer knows about it when they install or download the scum ware. But just like this whole thread is about, it's the websites that are getting ripped off, not the surfer. Just like everything I've read from Gator's cheif or what ever, it's the same, "It's legal because the sufer knows", well the surfer is not the one getting the shaft! If top text can change my pages, how can that be legal? I made those pages, they are on my server, my domain, my bandwidth at at my cost and they are servering their ads so they make money, there's no way that can be legal! Seems like it would be very easy for any big company with the resources to document whats happening and sue the pants off them. Install their scumware, do screen shots and avs's or mpg's of it happening. Am I thinking wrong? To me it's like a newspaper stand taking all the magazines off their shelves, pasting their own ads over the ones there. Then putting them back on the shelf to sell. Whats the difference? Would the magazines stand for that? I guess it's just a matter of time some one actually goes after them. I would hope it happens and maybe even some ruling or law against any program doing the same crap. Maybe I'm thinking in the clouds.. ronnie

08-28-2001, 07:49 PM	#60
jimmyf OU812 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 12,651	There is something you webmasters can do. I put this on some of my pages. Is that software you down loaded really FREE Click Here and find out about SpyWare I hate this stuff So do something, let the surfer know about this crap. Am also going to put a link to Ad-Ware on my site's. With a link to below. http://www.alphalink.com.au/~johnf/dspypdf.html Jim

08-29-2001, 03:51 AM	#62
wolfshade Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The right place Posts: 847	An idea: Take a dialer and zip it then put it up for download on kazaa in all XXX descriptions you can think of That oughta teach them Wolfshade ------------------ Wolfshade's Moneymakers Get paid per minute at Dialerclopedia, per run at Nodialercash, or be a sponsor yourself!!! It's the choice of an Adult generation! ICQ#49873955 [email protected]

08-29-2001, 04:37 AM	#63
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	I might be a step closer the who's behind the consoles on certain websites. Might be time to close down this guy's server. I need to know for sure it's the guy thoug. I got a report today from someone that said http://209.132.212.42/logurl/loadURL....html/650904:M loaded every time he visited my page 209.132.212.42 is owned by National Telemedia Corporation in Calabasas, California. The 'title' of the page in the console is wet4free.com. But I think they're using an affiliate program at wet4free. How do I get on phone with someone that runs the affiliate programs there? The account these fuckers have with greatplugin.com was already removed. Although I think greatplugin now prospers off this scam, 'cause the link appears to be still working... In the source of http://209.132.212.42/ there's a whole bunch of links to affiliate programs that might be used to generate money from this scam I know some of the big sites (including mine) are attacked by these people. A very simple piece of JavaScript (caught before on my page by some people ;-) can easily take care of their server. That means a console will pop up, but won't load. Still annoying, but if the program doesn't result in any traffic they won't make any money while they still have bills to pay. In the end I'm sure the big sites will have the longest breath. I think it's time to dig up the old battle ax and do some screwing with their server... But is there anybody that knows more about National Telemedia Corporation (before we start nailing the wrong people)

08-29-2001, 08:38 AM	#64
XXXforU Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Lick my Ballz Posts: 151	Funny not to see the biggest fucker of them all on that list of domains... eBay.com Wonder why?

08-29-2001, 12:17 PM	#65
Lane Will code for food... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Buckeye, AZ Posts: 8,496	cant they include all urls regardless the domain? ------------------ Best Free CJ script icq: 6757061

08-29-2001, 02:11 PM	#67
VVGV Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sillicon Valley Posts: 6	National Telemedia Corporation in Calabasas, California i believe is CyberErotica. So i wouldnot recommend screwing with them. They are way too big.

08-29-2001, 03:02 PM	#69
Vony Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5	http://biz.yahoo.com/e/001219/rick.html Ron Levi, age 49, has been a director and officer of National Telemedia Corporation since 1991. Since 1992, Mr. Levi has been a director and officer of Voice Media, Inc. In July, 2000, Mr. Levi was appointed to our board in connection with our acquisition of certain assets of Voice Media, Inc. Voice Media, Inc. and the National Telemedia Corporation are global Internet media companies, focusing on Internet development and Electronic commerce applications for Web based entertainment products, including the development of proprietary technologies, industry-defining systems and marketing processes.

08-29-2001, 04:04 PM	#70
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08-29-2001, 05:28 PM	#71
Eddie Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: where the chicks have long legs and the beer tastes great Posts: 33	Guys I wonder what is wrong with you? Don't you believe that these companies double checked it 10 times to assure that it is legal what they are doing? So even if it is not the nicest thing I still think that if it is legal it is ok. Just because a guy like the hun doesn't like what's going on he still has no right to attack their servers or threaten their business in any way. Well ... I can't wait until the hun strikes his ax and they strike back with their attourney and a BIG lawsuit. However I can't see the problem with such type of software if users are able to deinstall it at any time and that webmasters are able to add their URLs in a blocking list or however you call that and the ad proggie doesn't do its work on that specific site. I know for sure one company who is that honest. It is just another way of advertisement and in my oppinion the hun harmed this industry too much to complain about such things.

08-29-2001, 06:09 PM	#72
tmknight Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 9	Programs such as Toptext do not allow website owners to block out domains. It has not been proven legal, nor has it been proven illegal. That is why the IAB is most likely going to take Gator court. There isn't a set precedent for exactly what these programs do. The only thing close is ad/popup-blockers programs which were never taken to court. Once it goes to court, it will most certainly be declared illegal. Such practices are not allowed in print media or television media and would already had gone to court and lost. Because the internet is the medium, it takes longer to get things done. These companies are going to be so drowned in law suit, I doubt they'll have the time or resources to sue anyone themselves.

08-30-2001, 03:28 AM	#73
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	Hold on, hold on... If this company is Cybererotica then I'm pretty sure they're not behind this. Same thing with greatplugin.com (the 'hotlink' on my site is commented out, it never was active). That's why I posted the info on this IP-address. The people that run this crap software are popping up consoles with affiliate programs. I'm sure CyberErotica will find out and they might stop payment on 'em. I'll give 'em a call later today to see what they can do about this.

08-30-2001, 04:52 AM	#74
tradermcduck Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Europe - By the way I know my nickname sucks ;-) Posts: 2,362	@ TheHun wet4free is an email affiliate program from cybererotica. Ask them who has got account number 650904 and then... :-)

08-30-2001, 07:02 AM	#75
DialerGurl Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 17	There seems to be a little bit of confusion regarding our involvement in this. This company signed up with us for a dialer at Telcoweb.com on the 16th of August. The affilate ID he received was was 15066. This software popped up greatplugin.com in certain instances in replacement of other adult web pages using this same ID. This account had done 10 calls before it was brought to our attention by the Hun. We immediately deactivated the account and passed on the details to our Lawyer who is now dealing with this. No Adware or any other type of software is bundled with our dialer. This affiliate sent the stolen webtraffic he obtained with his software to our domain greatplugin.com. He never got paid for his efforts and it is now in the hands of our attorney Any questions please contact me. Elisha ------------------ Telcoweb Internet Dialers [email protected] Senior Network Support ICQ 102247464

08-30-2001, 12:49 PM	#76
Aquaman Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 131	About Gator and TopText, I think you should read this: http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6986199.html http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-6995976.html Enjoy!

07-17-2005, 11:55 PM	#78
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	The Hun posts here?