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gkk · 08-27-2001, 09:38 PM

My results from DrunkSlut have been rather disappointing so far, so
I've pulled the links for a while until I see how the rebills do.

Here's my ACTUAL DATA to support this...

July: 15 CC sales, 3 rebills; 2 check sales
August: 22 CC sales, 10 rebills, 2 check sales, 1 rebill, 2 revokes
TOTAL: 37 CC sales, 2 check sales net.

Of the 37 CC sales, 11 have rebilled 1+ times (30% of CC sales rebilled)

Of the 4 check sales, 1 rebilled and 2 revoked (25% of check rebilled)

For bringing in 41 signups, I have so far received $449.01 i.e. $10.95 per signup.

I have 12 "potential rebills" currently ongoing. EACH of these 12
potential rebills must rebill for an average of 3.43 additional months for
the overall average to be worth $35 a signup (a pretty typical per-signup
payment)

QUESTION: Do you think I have ANY chance of sustaining that kind of rebill
average, or is a 3.43 month average rebill a pipedream in 2001?

Also am I just very unlucky, or have you noticed the same "high conversion but low $" trend?

Royaltee_Gee · 08-27-2001, 09:41 PM

I dont think your signups are high enough to do a precise analysis on your numbers..

But the drunkslut rebills havent been the greatest, but oh well.

The signups convert good, so im not complaining... To bad it wasnt 35-40 a signup though :- )

that sure would be nice.

Indy · 08-27-2001, 10:06 PM

My sign-ups haven't been so great either, but I just started the program last week..
(so I cant comment on rebills)

But the site is really cool so I am hanging with it and hope it's a hit with the rich college kids when they are back in school

Wizzo · 08-27-2001, 10:24 PM

Hey gkk, thanks for honesty. Your numbers are slightly lower than the overall average for drunkslut. However, We are working on improving retention, because conversions are GREAT, so that leaves rentention as our goal. We trying to live up to AP ratios, which is tough act to follow for any site!

We are diversifing the members area and adding a ton of great new content, so hopefully we will see our goal of 60+ percent retention in the near future.

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Scoobs · 08-27-2001, 10:28 PM

Yeah Wizzo... That is a great move focusing on retention... The more of the 36 trials I had sign up today that stay, the better!

60% would be great!

Keep up the good work!

Balljoints · 08-27-2001, 10:28 PM

The limited traffic I have sent past the program has all been mature TGP traffic. 1:650 or so conversion ratio, but the rebills have done ok for the traffic I think.

Just getting into bbw content now, so maybe should try it on that?

I am sure it is probably a killer converter on the teen over the "regular" teen content.

I give it a thumbs up just for the fact that they can convert even the people looking for grannies

Balljoints

oscer · 08-27-2001, 10:29 PM

Does great for me on shit traffic

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kane · 08-28-2001, 01:00 AM

drunk sluts has been pretty good for me. Although my conversion from trial to paid members is a bit low

for August I got:

21,867 hits
112 trial signups
1:196 ratio

I have also gottenhave had 9 checks with 3 revokes 0 chargebacks and so far 46 rebills which means about 41% of have rebilled but I still have about 3 days worth of signups where the rebill isn't yet due so that # will go up I hope.

All in all it seems like a pretty good site.

kane

jimmy-3-way · 08-28-2001, 01:38 AM

My numbers duplicate your almost exactly, I think my overall is like $11 per sign up.

Makaveli · 08-28-2001, 01:51 AM

Yeah just checked.. Got my first sign up on drunk sluts lastnight.. Kewl beans man

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Slick · 08-28-2001, 06:19 AM

Yeah, I'm getting great signups from a handful of links on my pages. I'm having the same problem though with getting the trials to recur into memberships. I'm only keeping about 25% of the members myself.

Mike69 · 08-28-2001, 08:51 AM

You also have to remeber that Drunkslut will convert traffic that normally won't buy memberships so they won't convert as easy to a full membership.

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Ludedude · 08-28-2001, 10:42 AM

Well, I'm seeing similar results....less than 30% or so retention from trials to full conversions. I only started with the program in August, so I have less than a month in, but the conversions seem to be running about average for me.

The numbers from cashtour are:
TOTALS 10150 40 254:1

The 1:254 number is signups only, and does not account for any rebills.

The iBill numbers for August are:
signups 39 $135.63 rebills 11 $263.67

There is a discrepancy which the Cashtour staff are aware of and are compensating me for, so that accounts for the 39 vs. 40 signups number.

I don't think this program converts better than anything else I'm using, nor does it convert worse. It's working OK for me and I'll keep promoting it as it is a rather unique site and hope that retention improves. Traffic sources for this are about 95% pure TGP traffic from galleries and the rest being ads on some of my own TGP's. Of course, 40 signups at $35 per would be a big difference in the numbers as opposed to what I did make.

My (unsolicited) opinion is that $39.95 is way too fucking much on a monthly basis, but the $24+ rebills are nice and it wouldn't take long to get past that $35 per signup number with some good long term members.

I don't make a habit of posting dollars and cents in public, and not in private either, but this thread is interesting and warrants some more data for us and the guys running the program.

My $.02

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playa · 08-28-2001, 10:46 AM

yes GKK them numbers are slightly lower but they look pretty good,,,looks slightly normal compared to other programs

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Ludedude · 08-28-2001, 09:50 PM

bump...just cause

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Ludedude · 08-28-2001, 09:51 PM

dual post...sorry

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08-27-2001, 09:38 PM	#1
gkk Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 169	DrunkSlut results disappointing - your experience? My results from DrunkSlut have been rather disappointing so far, so I've pulled the links for a while until I see how the rebills do. Here's my ACTUAL DATA to support this... July: 15 CC sales, 3 rebills; 2 check sales August: 22 CC sales, 10 rebills, 2 check sales, 1 rebill, 2 revokes TOTAL: 37 CC sales, 2 check sales net. Of the 37 CC sales, 11 have rebilled 1+ times (30% of CC sales rebilled) Of the 4 check sales, 1 rebilled and 2 revoked (25% of check rebilled) For bringing in 41 signups, I have so far received $449.01 i.e. $10.95 per signup. I have 12 "potential rebills" currently ongoing. EACH of these 12 potential rebills must rebill for an average of 3.43 additional months for the overall average to be worth $35 a signup (a pretty typical per-signup payment) QUESTION: Do you think I have ANY chance of sustaining that kind of rebill average, or is a 3.43 month average rebill a pipedream in 2001? Also am I just very unlucky, or have you noticed the same "high conversion but low $" trend?

08-27-2001, 09:41 PM	#2
Royaltee_Gee Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 973	I dont think your signups are high enough to do a precise analysis on your numbers.. But the drunkslut rebills havent been the greatest, but oh well. The signups convert good, so im not complaining... To bad it wasnt 35-40 a signup though :- ) that sure would be nice.

08-27-2001, 10:06 PM	#3
Indy Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indianapolis,IN,US Posts: 90	My sign-ups haven't been so great either, but I just started the program last week.. (so I cant comment on rebills) But the site is really cool so I am hanging with it and hope it's a hit with the rich college kids when they are back in school

08-27-2001, 10:24 PM	#4
Wizzo 2011 GFY Hall of Fame! Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Back in Texas! Posts: 15,224	Hey gkk, thanks for honesty. Your numbers are slightly lower than the overall average for drunkslut. However, We are working on improving retention, because conversions are GREAT, so that leaves rentention as our goal. We trying to live up to AP ratios, which is tough act to follow for any site! We are diversifing the members area and adding a ton of great new content, so hopefully we will see our goal of 60+ percent retention in the near future. ------------------ Don't Fuck Yourself, get paid 71%... JOIN CASHTOUR

08-27-2001, 10:28 PM	#5
Scoobs Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Out back Posts: 492	Yeah Wizzo... That is a great move focusing on retention... The more of the 36 trials I had sign up today that stay, the better! 60% would be great! Keep up the good work!

08-27-2001, 10:28 PM	#6
Balljoints Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 357	The limited traffic I have sent past the program has all been mature TGP traffic. 1:650 or so conversion ratio, but the rebills have done ok for the traffic I think. Just getting into bbw content now, so maybe should try it on that? I am sure it is probably a killer converter on the teen over the "regular" teen content. I give it a thumbs up just for the fact that they can convert even the people looking for grannies Balljoints

08-27-2001, 10:29 PM	#7
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08-28-2001, 01:00 AM	#8
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	drunk sluts has been pretty good for me. Although my conversion from trial to paid members is a bit low for August I got: 21,867 hits 112 trial signups 1:196 ratio I have also gottenhave had 9 checks with 3 revokes 0 chargebacks and so far 46 rebills which means about 41% of have rebilled but I still have about 3 days worth of signups where the rebill isn't yet due so that # will go up I hope. All in all it seems like a pretty good site. kane

08-28-2001, 01:38 AM	#9
jimmy-3-way Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Transform my name to numbers it'd be 121058710. Posts: 3,861	My numbers duplicate your almost exactly, I think my overall is like $11 per sign up.

08-28-2001, 01:51 AM	#10
Makaveli Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 1,027	Yeah just checked.. Got my first sign up on drunk sluts lastnight.. Kewl beans man ------------------ Submit To Green ThumbsTGP.Com

08-28-2001, 06:19 AM	#11
Slick Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Houghton, MI Posts: 7,338	Yeah, I'm getting great signups from a handful of links on my pages. I'm having the same problem though with getting the trials to recur into memberships. I'm only keeping about 25% of the members myself.

08-28-2001, 08:51 AM	#12
Mike69 Canadian, nuff said eh? Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Under the coffee maker! Posts: 755	You also have to remeber that Drunkslut will convert traffic that normally won't buy memberships so they won't convert as easy to a full membership. ------------------ Michael Burns Head Programmer for: AmateurPages.com ADULT.COM EraserCash.com GoFuckYourSelf.com and more to come !!! God I love this job!!!

08-28-2001, 10:42 AM	#13
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	Well, I'm seeing similar results....less than 30% or so retention from trials to full conversions. I only started with the program in August, so I have less than a month in, but the conversions seem to be running about average for me. The numbers from cashtour are: TOTALS 10150 40 254:1 The 1:254 number is signups only, and does not account for any rebills. The iBill numbers for August are: signups 39 $135.63 rebills 11 $263.67 There is a discrepancy which the Cashtour staff are aware of and are compensating me for, so that accounts for the 39 vs. 40 signups number. I don't think this program converts better than anything else I'm using, nor does it convert worse. It's working OK for me and I'll keep promoting it as it is a rather unique site and hope that retention improves. Traffic sources for this are about 95% pure TGP traffic from galleries and the rest being ads on some of my own TGP's. Of course, 40 signups at $35 per would be a big difference in the numbers as opposed to what I did make. My (unsolicited) opinion is that $39.95 is way too fucking much on a monthly basis, but the $24+ rebills are nice and it wouldn't take long to get past that $35 per signup number with some good long term members. I don't make a habit of posting dollars and cents in public, and not in private either, but this thread is interesting and warrants some more data for us and the guys running the program. My $.02 ------------------ The Webmaster's Folder The Midnight TGP2 Submitter

08-28-2001, 10:46 AM	#14
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08-28-2001, 09:50 PM	#15
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	bump...just cause ------------------ The Webmaster's Folder The Midnight TGP2 Submitter

08-28-2001, 09:51 PM	#16
Ludedude Suck it! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Who wants to know? Posts: 4,432	dual post...sorry [This message has been edited by Ludedude (edited 08-28-2001).]