i'm voting for howard stern.

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Anyone who is considering votish for Bush should sit down for two hours and watch Fahrenheit 9/11.

The sight of the Iraqi guy holding up that dead little child, who had just been blown to kingdom Cum by Bush, should be reason enough to get the guy out of office in double quick time so that he can be arrested for crimes against humanity.

I just cannot believe so many on here support a man, and I use the term losely, who went to war against the wishes of the rest of the world, (except our pathetic British government which will be out next election, no wool pulled over our eyes) against a country that was absolutely NO THREAT to the USA.

Bush has made hundreds of thousands of terrorists. Every single innocent child that has been killed in Iraq, has made a father want to seek revenge on the USA.

If I was the father of that child in Moore's film, I would do everything in my power to get to the USA and shoot Bush in the head. Whether I got shot dead or not straight after, the revenge would be worth it.

And americans want to vote for him?

:ak47: :321GFY

here's a lil clue ... Bush will only escalate the hate, Kerry has a better chance of calming it down...


we can NOT win against them doing it Bush's way...on paper and in movies sure...can you even imagine how many bin Laden's have been created by the hate he's stirred up over there? recruitment is through the ROOF I'm sure...


this war is not a, show up to a country, and blast it type of thing...the handling of Iraq was a mistake....period...there were smarter more sophisticated ways of handling that crap (I agree it needed 'handling') but not in this simpleton way

kingdom cum hunh? Man you need to pull your head out of your porn for about 5 minutes.

i watched the same thing on 9/11, your argument is weak. keep it in the UK buddy.

FF

You can make the movie Fahrenheit 9/11 about EVERY SINGLE war from the begining of time until now. WAR SUCKS. PEOPLE DIE. Mothers cry. Familys are hurt. Leaders are hated.

The interpretation of the Qu'ran is the root of their Jihad battle, yes.

BUT the people of the Middle East learn at a very young age that the FOCUS of the battle is over Palestine.

Every "terrorist message" I've read either before, after, or regarding an attack has a mention of the war in Palestine. Tell me that statement is wrong.

I have not read the Qu'ran but I have read many non-mainstream news sources:

http://www.trackingterrorism.com - offers human and computer translations of many messages... this server is down and very slow... focus of many hacks I suspect... so you can't pull it up every time. But there are some good reads there

http://english.aljazeera.net/ - please read the editorials... cartoons... Middle Eastern prospective on news stories covered in US... yes this is biased SHIT, not news, but you can read what those fuckers really think.

Many feel that USA's support for Israel is driven by two things:

1) After Hitler the USA swore that we would never let the Jewish race get wiped out.
2) That Jesus wll come again once there is a stable Middle East.

Both the Qu'ran and Bible speak of this war... the war that will end the World. Many Jihadists "think" they are fighting the final Jihad.

go red sox

lets face it ,

after Iraq we just got more terrorist groups, threats, and cells to deal with.

Jihad is still on and it won't end.

bullshit .. and alot.

the quran says "you should not kill other peoples"...

dont blame the quran.

enough said.. just stop talking about stuff you have no clue about.

i have several muslim friends here, and i asked them about "kill other people".. and they say, that it is not allowed to kill other people.. so, what you are talking here, is just BULLSHIT

We cannot "got'em" educated but how about educating the people here in the US? It is interesting that this country is losing its competitive edge in many aspects (porn excluded) :-) It was the manufacturing jobs leaving the country, soon it will be the tech ones already on their way to Asia. What will be left here is really the low-paying face-to-face jobs...

I do believe that UN should take over on international matters. Maybe it was a mistake to attack Iraq. Maybe these unaccountable and unelected judges at the International Criminal Court can really stop the madness of a person who I am not afraid to compare to a recent German Dictator behind the shadow of an enemy called "terrorism".

And give me a break, I may be old-fashioned that I still read books but chills go down my spine when I think about the "9/11 Commission Report" the best non-fiction this year. Yes, there is terrorism out there. Yes, the war on terror cannot be won. Yes, there will be more attacks against the US. And although I am positive that George Bush's intentions are good and patriotic, they have degenerated into shutting up opposition and fueling the world imbalance.

I would allow myself to quote Ted Rall:
"10. We deserve a president who can speak English and doesn't look like a chimpanzee. John Kerry (news - web sites) is a far from ideal prospect but he's a huge leap forward from an evolutionary standpoint."
For the full article, please visit:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...aseagainstbush

You are missing my point.

I never said the Qu'ran did or didn't say that.

I didn't fucking read it so I don't know.

I'm saying SOME PEOPLE THINK the Qu'ran says that.

You can not dispute that fact. I am observing other people.

The people that think Qu'ran has those messages are mostly members of radical Islamic groups.

Your friends probably aren't members of a radical Islamic group. They are members of a club that has a friend who can't read.

:321GFY

John Kerry will say whatever the polls tell him that you want to hear. And you will all suck it up without doing any research on what the guy has actually done while a senator for 20 years.

suckers.......:2 cents:

sure.. and before you start to insult friends of me, shut up , will you? :)

deal :thumbsup

i hope your ready to get drafted u fucking moron

Kerry is not Bush:glugglug

After that it goes on to say when, how and why you should kill other people. It espouses the holy virtue of beheading, which is why we are seeing lots of beheadings right now, rather then stabbings, throat slittings, shootings or other forms of execution.

How about YOU read the Koran. Just open it up and start reading. The Koran is not a book of peace, much like the old testament of the Bible.

You bought Kerry's scare line; hook, line and singer. Sucker! Kerry is saying he wants to expand the military by 40,000 billets. Where do you think those 40,000 servicemen are supposed to come from?

Bullshit! They're almost the same with only a few minor differences. Put the issues side by side and actually compare them. How few differences you'll find is actually scarey. After doing so myself, I became convinced that we truly live in an autocracy. We only have two tenable choices and they both say the same thing.

hAHAHHAHA

congratulations on your successful lobotomy.:1orglaugh

i did my research.

How John Kerry exposed the Contra-cocaine scandal

Follow the Money, How John Kerry busted the terrorists' favorite bank

With probes, making his mark

John Kerry, the man who uncovered Iran-Contra

Bush has failed to catch Osama bin Laden and most of Al Qaida's leaders have escaped punishment. These reasons alone should mean that Bush should be defeated. The incompetence and corruption of his administration are a disgrace to this country.

Bush also had a chance to stop Zarqawi in 2002 but the Bush administration killed the operation because it would have devalued their mission to wage war on hussein:

"But the raid on Mr. Zarqawi didn't take place. Months passed with no approval of the plan from the White House, until word came down just weeks before the March 19, 2003, start of the Iraq war that Mr. Bush had rejected any strike on the camp until after an official outbreak of hostilities with Iraq. Ultimately, the camp was hit just after the invasion of Iraq began."

link

LICK BUSH

NO MORE WAR

Just remember, the so called war on terror will never be won.

I think that was thr downfall of the CIA... most of those people will still be running the show even if / when Kerry wins..

Sure the Whitehouse staff makes some calls, but most of that weight is on the shoulders of the CIA.. it's their job.

Right now, they're fighting to integrate the CIA & FBI.. so both organizations are suffering...

Bottom line is the USA & European Union needs better intelligence.

go Kerry

I dont think that is a good decision.

wvuatl: The interpretation of the Qu'ran is the root of their Jihad battle, yes.

Me: Wrong. It is illegal in Islam to interpret the Qu'ran. There is only one meaning and that is exactly what is written. When it says "slay the unbelievers" that is what it means. It cannot be interpreted as "go outside and hug the nearest Jew".

wvuatl: BUT the people of the Middle East learn at a very young age that the FOCUS of the battle is over Palestine.

Me: Wrong. That is secondary. The primary focus of learning is to take over the whole world and convert/ enslave/ kill the population.

wvuatl: Every "terrorist message" I've read either before, after, or regarding an attack has a mention of the war in Palestine. Tell me that statement is wrong.

Me: If the terrorists were simply to say "we carried out this bombing because you are infidels" then even the stupid Westerners would stop supporting them. Pretending that it is because of Israel is to provide legitimacy to their acts in the eyes of stupid Westerners.

wvuatl: Many feel that USA's support for Israel is driven by two things:

1) After Hitler the USA swore that we would never let the Jewish race get wiped out.
2) That Jesus wll come again once there is a stable Middle East.

Me: The actual reason is to support the only democracy in the region.

wvuatl: Both the Qu'ran and Bible speak of this war... the war that will end the World. Many Jihadists "think" they are fighting the final Jihad.

Me: The Qu'ran cribbed much of it's content from the Jewish and Christian scriptures. This is why some of it sounds like the shit in the Bible.

Thicky.

The earlier peaceful verses in the Qu'ran were abrogated (you don't know what that word means, I bet) by the later violent verses when Muhammad gained power. The Qu'ran is the root of the problem. Another problem is dumbass Westerners like you who don't understand a single thing about world affairs.

They were:

1. Lying to you. It is permitted for a Muslim to lie to a Kafir (derogatory term Muslims use for an unbeliever, not unlike the word "hahahahahaha") as long as it furthers the Muslim cause.

2. They have never read their own "holy" book.

Well seeing as John Kerry himself says on his website that he will institute the draft, then if JK wins then I suppose OWNED will indeed be drafted.

Oh yeah, it was also the Democrats who instigated the draft bill in the Senate, which was shot down 402-2.

Just showing some support - and appreciation for someone who actually keeps up and doesn't listen to talking points and then try to use them in a political debate.

Bush has his faults, but you know what the guys stands for. Go Bush.

:1orglaugh fucking idiot

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straight up from faraneight 911