And for the people that don't understand how it can already be making 4 figs a day you don't know how the corporate advertising world works.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Man, they are in adult. They hardly make a thousand bucks a month. How do you expect them to understand mainstream advertising?

3000/50 = 60 sign ups * $50 (recurring)

I think this sounds about right. Women looking for men at men.com.


Why the heck do you not belive in KRL?

Ive never heard him talk about money before.

I want to breath KRL, and his mag preview looks great!

:thumbsup

Amen to that :thumbsup

Yo, guys, I didn't buy this domain to make money from signups. You got to be kidding. That's not where the big money is.

KRL... buddy again don't even bother. They don't know how to think outside the box. That's why they're dependant on $35 a signup. :)

Don't waste your time trying to enlighten those who are so far lost it's not even funny.

first of all, I feel no need to tell you what I do or a living and how much I make. Furthermore, if you don't care why do you always react this furiously to such threads?

"I've been in this industry since 1984. 20 years. Who are you and how long have you been in this biz? I've paid my dues already."

Now who the hell is doing an image workout?

pwned :1orglaugh

I have to catch up on my phone calls. I'll be back later if anyone wants to ask serious business questions instead of the ones designed to create post views using my name.

Thanks to those that DO understand these kinds of deals.

KRL ROCKS

you malicious idiot, I've had more than enough of your shit

Most of the dot com bombs were pretty nice domains too. I think that era showed that sites with any overhead that make their money soley from advertising is a disaster. So it will be interesting how it plays out.

why?

So then take care of your deals and I'll take care of mine and we can be friends instead of adversaries on the board.

I'm into positive vibes. I can't stand negativity in any shape or form.

Peace bro.

past accomplishments in the phone sex industry doesn't give you the right to bullshit my old business friend :D

difference between brag and bullshit though,
people love calling out bullshitters, cause its easy if you know the business.


- about your corporate MAINSTREAM sponsorships
YOU HAVE NONE RIGHT NOW on your site, stop dreaming and start getting some until you start talking about corporate MAINSTREAM sponsorships.


Of course we understand they don't care about direct results but their overall branding plan which is why they will overpay for ads.

Tired of me? Bring it on you little faggot. You're just as worthless as all of the other trolls. I could give a FUCK what you think.

murray, bring more then just namecalling to arguements ok?

some reason would be nice,
some facts some personal thoughts,
all would be nice.

thank you for your participation.

I don't have any corporate advertisers sold already?


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

I've got a ton of phone calls to make. Take care of your biz and stop minding mine.

Thanks.

he doesn't have any

When pimplink says " you malicious idiot, I've had more than enough of your shit" why do I need to bring reason or "personal thought" into anything?

You're way out in left field on this one.

Very true.

My business is taken care of, you don't have to worry about my business :D

http://www.men.com/
Wheres your corporate already sold sponsors?

sportsbetting your corporate advertiser?
Probably paying you on per player. Thats no corporate advertiser to me.


We talking about future "maybe I'll buy some sponsorship on men.com in december" qualify leads? If you are going to talk about business, at least talk about the business you have settled not about future "maybe" business :D


I saw no coke bottles, I saw no Jessica parker dancing on your site with gap ads,
I see no old navys ugly shirts on your site, I see no crest advertising their brite white on your site.

Hidden methods of Money making for sure.
You advertising them in your sig or something?

OK, you guys are driving me nuts now.

Look the formula is very simple.

You acquire a nice mainstream online property.

You develop it into something that has broad mainstream appeal.

You sell corporate advertisers which is where the big money is.

You market it on TV, print, radio and other high visibility media outlets for several years.

You get the attention of the huge companies that need to acquire top properties to keep their companies names in the news and ahead of their competition.

You do a merger and get a chunk of a prime publicly traded stock.

You go on to your next adventure.

That's it. 1 2 3 and not rocket science by any means.

exactly. Now where did your $3k come from today?

After being in this game since the beginning you think I would take a pay per play advertsering deal from a gaming co.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

BradM - murray_dawg - one thing is funny - namely that you also seem to know everything.

KRL is it's own league, but why do YOU also portrait yourself always above all GFY'ers?

You can't know everything about business when you're 20.

Everyone here knows that I admire KRL, so I don't mind that you try to "defend" him here, but I really wonder why do you always portrait yourself as someone who knows and achieved everything.

This is just a serious question, no name calling.

Pimp, in the magazine world companies buy and pay for their ads months in advance.

Go call any adult mag for example right now and see what issue they will sell you advertsing in and then post it back here.

I'm not trying to be a dick with you. But I've been on the buying end of the ad game for a long time. I never liked paying for ads so far in advance, but you have to if you want to lock in good spots.

Now I'm on the selling end of the ad game.

And I can see clearly and have learned the techniques guys like Larry Flynt, Hefner, and the others used to make money from the publishing business.

Polish:
Because I was working full time for a MASSIVE mainstream company at age 15, which I helped grow from 7 employees to over 40 when I left 2 years ago.

I have a glowing letter of recommendation and am highly regarded at that company for my efforts.
My ego is huge in that regard. I KNOW what I am talking about when it comes to mainstream advertising. I am amazed that people HERE are arguing about mainstream advertising when they have NO clue what they are talking about.

I respect your plan and your experience, but please stop over exagerating about other shit :)

Geezus, and fire your employees and get some new ones, I could have had that site up within 3 months completely written with custom articles like askmen.com if it was such a big prioriy/business like you said it is.


your "off by far" project scheduling :

"men.com will be up and running by febuary 2004 or something"

makes me wonder what kind of disfunctional operation you running there!

hmm.

:glugglug

I don't know where the post went and I don't feel like looking for it but I believe what he said was that yesterday he made 3k. I don't think he said he makes that daily (which he may) but he was referring to that days pay. It was the people on gfy who started adding numbers at a consistant 3k daily, not KRL.

Ok, I believe and expected that. But you made it look as if men.com - the site - made that amount today and that the bad design has something to do with it. This is money for a service that has yet to be launched and delivered.

pimplink doesnt seem to understand the shepherd is ALWAYS right ;)

Just want to add PA that if I come off like a braggard EVER that is not my intention.

I'm just a regular hard working businessman. Nothing special. I've had ups and I've had downs. Things I made a lot of money on and things I lost a lot of money on.

I don't know why people seem to idolize me. I don't want it at all. There are way bigger guys in the domain biz then me. So everyone should go idolize them. Some of these big players have tens of thousands of domains.

I just try to offer advice and wisdom to you guys, cause I've been through the trenches. I've learned a lot the hard way from being in a pioneering spot often with new trends. I believe in giving back and helping others achieve. Some people I've helped over the years have surpassed me. That's awesome to me. I love seeing young guys reaching incredible heights.

So use me, but damn don't abuse me. And again if I come off like a showoff or a braggard, fuck , I am truly sorry. That is the very last way I would want anyone here to think of me.

I can also say that I just made 10k by buying a 1k domain that was valued inappropriately by the seller, when talking about future type-in earnings.

Some years ago i would say bs, but now I see it from a different perspective. You can't accurate estimate the income of any site with simple formulas like clicks over sponsor etc

There are many factors involved and different business models that you'll keep discovering through years.

BradM makes 100 signups a day from partner accounts.. and lives in a world of fantasies... Leave him alone... lol

p.s. I think he also own a yellow sport car.. bling bling :2 cents:

3K. 6K. 12K?

:Graucho

Aww what a touching response *sniff sniff*.

I think you're great Kev, you are always willing to give advice and shoot the shit (when you have time) and in my opinion you don't come off bragging, but that's because I've spoken with you extensively...I can see how other people would view it as such though, some of the time.

They just have to get to know *you*

I CONCUR

I SECOND THAT

WHAT HE SAID