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Trax · 10-19-2004, 03:25 PM

... lol chill dude
haha
I have been away for a couple of hours because a couple of friends invited me to watch a champions league game...

I'm not 24/7 on GFY.
In minute 1 you post: "what is your account number trax?"
only 3 minutes later in the same thread you post: "I smell bullshit"
and 6 minutes later this thing gets its own thread

C'mon .... gimme some time

now the details:
1) "are you with extremepay trax?"
No - they just bought my sig the last couple of months and got some nice exposure for their money just from this fake drama hehe

2) "except it is malicious to post webalizer stats, no actual XPays stats, and fail to write in to our support for assistance."
I can have anyone verify those stats within 2 mins. as far as the support goes... there is nothing a support could do simply because the surfer is being sent directly to the tour page. (but you know that now already).

3) This made me sad

:"Trax's post here lacks professional courtesy and class"

"the "guy" deserves no courtesy whatsoever- which is the same amount the guy showed XPays."

"The guy posted on a public board stats that slammed their program"

"Trax waived his ref url privacy and the list of url's I posted was meant as Proof to my explanation. It is justifiable under the circumstances."

No - seriously:
I have to say that I do not really care about you posting the ref urls... the site I promote you guys with honestly has ZERO worth to me... I've made my money off Paris Hilton already - believe me.

Apart from that I think you are reacting a little bit pathic.
First of all I didn't slam your program (I know it was not you Evan who posted the quoted text) - just because I said it's my worst converting sponsor and can't convert my traffic for shit?

Now a last thing about the so called "bad google images traffic".
I've got a lot of VERY nice traffic spots in all kinds of niches on google iimages and I've always converted very well with it. Here is an example from Wegcash:

Do bitch about me not liking Xpays... I can live with that

But do not come here and bitch about me & my traffic cuz you got no clue about either one

Oh I nearly forgot two things. First of all feel sorry for wasting ten minutes to write this and I am a little bit disappointed of jonathan.

That's it for now lol. I hope you guys enjoyed this fake drama. It just increased my sig value hehe.

Trax · 10-19-2004, 03:27 PM

and thanks to the many people who contacted me on ICQ to let me know of the 2nd thread hehe.
Appreciated

WiredGuy · 10-19-2004, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
Now a last thing about the so called "bad google images traffic".
I've got a lot of VERY nice traffic spots in all kinds of niches on google iimages and I've always converted very well with it. Here is an example from Wegcash:

Wow, time to get into some image SEO work

WG

Roald · 10-19-2004, 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by WiredGuy
Wow, time to get into some image SEO work
WG

lol I was just thinking by myself "how is this google imageing thing working"

XPays · 10-19-2004, 03:36 PM

You brought it to the boards right off the bat. I posted many stats screenshots disproving the generic nature of your post. Your traffic is not bad and not great- the XPays webmasters who work the search engines are having better results than you across the board.

XPays · 10-19-2004, 03:37 PM

Trax · 10-19-2004, 03:37 PM

Oh and the thing with me being disappointed with J is "fixed", too.
He's a cool guy and did nothing wrong. Evan just made it sound completly different

See you in Vegas... I owe you a drink hehe

XPays · 10-19-2004, 03:37 PM

XPays · 10-19-2004, 03:39 PM

onwards and upwards- hopefully there will be balance going forward. I apologize if I upset you or J or anyone.

Trax · 10-19-2004, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
You brought it to the boards right off the bat.

Yep I did and I don't feel bad about it at all. Relax.
Post more stats and enjoy the free advertising possibility.

Oh and I feel like saying one more bad thing about XPays... Your guys stats are...
a)... fucking ugly
&
b)... fucking useless

You could at least put up some traffic summary report and a few other basic things. Again this is just my

No bashing

XPays · 10-19-2004, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
Yep I did and I don't feel bad about it at all. Relax.
Post more stats and enjoy the free advertising possibility.

Oh and I feel like saying one more bad thing about XPays... Your guys stats are...
a)... fucking ugly
&
b)... fucking useless

You could at least put up some traffic summary report and a few other basic things. Again this is just my
No bashing

Easy enough- our reporting will be modernized shortly.

Crypt · 10-19-2004, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
Yep I did and I don't feel bad about it at all. Relax.
Post more stats and enjoy the free advertising possibility.

Oh and I feel like saying one more bad thing about XPays... Your guys stats are...
a)... fucking ugly
&
b)... fucking useless

You could at least put up some traffic summary report and a few other basic things. Again this is just my
No bashing

lol

Rich · 10-19-2004, 03:45 PM

Trax you should have said that it was google image traffic, you made it sound like it was direct search traffic. Huge difference. You're basically sending blind traffic that isn't expecting to see a pay site.

XPays · 10-19-2004, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crypt
lol

what are you doing here? the thread did not say "looking for korean kindergarten school servers to use as proxies for spam"

Jay_StandAhead · 10-19-2004, 03:48 PM

xpays, did you get my email about 1click cross-sales?

XPays · 10-19-2004, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay[neX]
xpays, did you get my email about 1click cross-sales?

Hi! Yes! we are going to do a new product code and trial structure for these- I have your email here for when it is ready (tomorrow-ish)

XPays · 10-19-2004, 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
Trax you should have said that it was google image traffic, you made it sound like it was direct search traffic. Huge difference. You're basically sending blind traffic that isn't expecting to see a pay site.

That is exactly what I thought. I still apologize if I offended anybody and I do not discount Trax's traffic- just it's not apples to apples...

Jay_StandAhead · 10-19-2004, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
Hi! Yes! we are going to do a new product code and trial structure for these- I have your email here for when it is ready (tomorrow-ish)

Awesome!

wdsguy · 10-19-2004, 03:52 PM

damn thats some nice stats from google images traffic

Trax · 10-19-2004, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
Trax you should have said that it was google image traffic, you made it sound like it was direct search traffic. Huge difference. You're basically sending blind traffic that isn't expecting to see a pay site.

yes and no
If done right there is no difference between images search and "normal" SE traffic.
The visitor gets forwarded DIRECTLY to the paysite (its cloaked on that domain) and sees what he was searching for: paris hilton

I've done so many amazing things with images traffic that I can not complain about it at all... It's a lot of porn surfers who did not find the porn they were looking for. But I won't comment further on that!

XPays · 10-19-2004, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
yes and no
If done right there is no difference between images search and "normal" SE traffic.
The visitor gets forwarded DIRECTLY to the paysite (its cloaked on that domain) and sees what he was searching for: paris hilton

I've done so many amazing things with images traffic that I can not complain about it at all... It's a lot of porn surfers who did not find the porn they were looking for. But I won't comment further on that!

If there is any sort of trick to the image traffic that we can customize for your paris image traffic, email us and we will get to steppin' on it.

Crypt · 10-19-2004, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
what are you doing here? the thread did not say "looking for korean kindergarten school servers to use as proxies for spam"

lol you are fucking funny ;)

Dont know what the fuck you are talking about , but you got the wrong person ;) If you have some proof of that, post them ;)

It semm you are the one who used proxy and got sued by M$ , not me.

XPays · 10-19-2004, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crypt
lol you are fucking funny ;)

Dont know what the fuck you are talking about , but you got the wrong person ;) If you have some proof of that, post them ;)

It semm you are the one who used proxy and got sued by M$ , not me.

Not true- they would never have settled with us if that was true.

lazycash · 10-19-2004, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
Yep I did and I don't feel bad about it at all. Relax.
Post more stats and enjoy the free advertising possibility.

Oh and I feel like saying one more bad thing about XPays... Your guys stats are...
a)... fucking ugly
&
b)... fucking useless

You could at least put up some traffic summary report and a few other basic things. Again this is just my
No bashing

Lol, you beat me to it, those stats would give me a headache. At least line up your numbered data on the right with the same margin.

Rich · 10-19-2004, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
yes and no
If done right there is no difference between images search and "normal" SE traffic.
The visitor gets forwarded DIRECTLY to the paysite (its cloaked on that domain) and sees what he was searching for: paris hilton

I've done so many amazing things with images traffic that I can not complain about it at all... It's a lot of porn surfers who did not find the porn they were looking for. But I won't comment further on that!

No that's not really true. I don't doubt that you've found ways to convert it, but when it comes down to it, it's a surfer clicking on a paris hilton thumbnail on a page of paris hilton thumbnails. Much different than regular searches.

Rich · 10-19-2004, 04:05 PM

I'm not standing up for xpays or saying that they do convert, I don't use them. I'm just pointing out that you can't expect image traffic to convert like regular search traffic.

Trax · 10-19-2004, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
No that's not really true. I don't doubt that you've found ways to convert it, but when it comes down to it, it's a surfer clicking on a paris hilton thumbnail on a page of paris hilton thumbnails. Much different than regular searches.

maybe
but in my case he is clicking on a thumbnail of screenshot of the paris hilton sex tape which makes a slight difference

Trax · 10-19-2004, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
I'm not standing up for xpays or saying that they do convert, I don't use them. I'm just pointing out that you can't expect image traffic to convert like regular search traffic.

Of course I generally agree to that point, so will anyone who knows a bit about se traffic.

Crypt · 10-19-2004, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
Not true- they would never have settled with us if that was true.

Ok, and now Mr Patent, where is the proof of this korean school proxy shit? ;)

You said that in 2 threads.
Where are the proofs? ;)

When you will do a search, you will notice its not me, but a dumbass with a similar nick who said that.

XPays · 10-19-2004, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crypt
Ok, and now Mr Patent, where is the proof of this korean school proxy shit? ;)

You said that in 2 threads.
Where are the proofs? ;)

When you will do a search, you will notice its not me, but a dumbass with a similar nick who said that.

Ok

Rich · 10-19-2004, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax
Of course I generally agree to that point, so will anyone who knows a bit about se traffic.

Quote:

Originally posted by Trax

If done right there is no difference between images search and "normal" SE traffic.

Alls I'm saying is it would have been appropriate to mention in your first post. If I hear a sponsor is converting real search traffic @ 0:7000 I never touch them. Anyway.

Trax · 10-19-2004, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rich
If I hear a sponsor is converting real search traffic @ 0:7000 I never touch them. Anyway.

on a "normal" sponsor I wouldn't even touch it on 1:1000 or 1:500

Crypt · 10-19-2004, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
Ok

So Mr Patent ? Proofs?

XPays · 10-19-2004, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Crypt
.
Where are the proofs? ;)

When you will do a search, you will notice its not me, but a dumbass with a similar nick who said that.

I take your word for it and it was an honest mistake.

Crypt · 10-19-2004, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
I take your word for it and it was an honest mistake.

Yeah ok

XPays · 10-19-2004, 04:55 PM

interesting excerpt from the parallel thread imho:

"quote:Originally posted by MetaformX
Interesting thread, to say the least...Bring up some privacy issues... "

Post Proof vs. Privacy would be an interesting thread to start imho. I think I walked the tightrope ok this time despite what other may think.

Also, XPays respects privacy historically, in the present, and the future.

An example that comes to mind immediately is the fact that we guarded our affiliate database successfully in Microsoft vs. XPays.

10-19-2004, 03:25 PM	#1
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	To Xpays... ... lol chill dude haha I have been away for a couple of hours because a couple of friends invited me to watch a champions league game... I'm not 24/7 on GFY. In minute 1 you post: "what is your account number trax?" only 3 minutes later in the same thread you post: "I smell bullshit" and 6 minutes later this thing gets its own thread C'mon .... gimme some time now the details: 1) "are you with extremepay trax?" No - they just bought my sig the last couple of months and got some nice exposure for their money just from this fake drama hehe 2) "except it is malicious to post webalizer stats, no actual XPays stats, and fail to write in to our support for assistance." I can have anyone verify those stats within 2 mins. as far as the support goes... there is nothing a support could do simply because the surfer is being sent directly to the tour page. (but you know that now already). 3) This made me sad :"Trax's post here lacks professional courtesy and class" "the "guy" deserves no courtesy whatsoever- which is the same amount the guy showed XPays." "The guy posted on a public board stats that slammed their program" "Trax waived his ref url privacy and the list of url's I posted was meant as Proof to my explanation. It is justifiable under the circumstances." No - seriously: I have to say that I do not really care about you posting the ref urls... the site I promote you guys with honestly has ZERO worth to me... I've made my money off Paris Hilton already - believe me. Apart from that I think you are reacting a little bit pathic. First of all I didn't slam your program (I know it was not you Evan who posted the quoted text) - just because I said it's my worst converting sponsor and can't convert my traffic for shit? Now a last thing about the so called "bad google images traffic". I've got a lot of VERY nice traffic spots in all kinds of niches on google iimages and I've always converted very well with it. Here is an example from Wegcash: Do bitch about me not liking Xpays... I can live with that But do not come here and bitch about me & my traffic cuz you got no clue about either one Oh I nearly forgot two things. First of all feel sorry for wasting ten minutes to write this and I am a little bit disappointed of jonathan. That's it for now lol. I hope you guys enjoyed this fake drama. It just increased my sig value hehe.

10-19-2004, 03:36 PM	#5
XPays Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Inside the most accurately counting and reporting affiliate system in the world at XPays.com Posts: 13,002	You brought it to the boards right off the bat. I posted many stats screenshots disproving the generic nature of your post. Your traffic is not bad and not great- the XPays webmasters who work the search engines are having better results than you across the board. __________________ InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5 HuntingMoon GFY Domains Marketplace is LIVE XPays always pays! Top Site: * RealJasmine.com * + HotelHeiress® with The Paris Hilton Sex Video Insert the HotelHeiress® HD FEED into your members areas XPin.com Opening for Pin Partners Soonish Mainstream Offers For Emailers and DomainersNONADULT.COM Like Us!

10-19-2004, 03:37 PM	#6
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10-19-2004, 03:37 PM	#8
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10-19-2004, 03:39 PM	#9
XPays Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Inside the most accurately counting and reporting affiliate system in the world at XPays.com Posts: 13,002	onwards and upwards- hopefully there will be balance going forward. I apologize if I upset you or J or anyone. __________________ InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5 HuntingMoon GFY Domains Marketplace is LIVE XPays always pays! Top Site: * RealJasmine.com * + HotelHeiress® with The Paris Hilton Sex Video Insert the HotelHeiress® HD FEED into your members areas XPin.com Opening for Pin Partners Soonish Mainstream Offers For Emailers and DomainersNONADULT.COM Like Us!

10-19-2004, 03:27 PM	#2
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	and thanks to the many people who contacted me on ICQ to let me know of the 2nd thread hehe. Appreciated

10-19-2004, 03:45 PM	#13
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	Trax you should have said that it was google image traffic, you made it sound like it was direct search traffic. Huge difference. You're basically sending blind traffic that isn't expecting to see a pay site.

10-19-2004, 03:48 PM	#15
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10-19-2004, 03:52 PM	#19
wdsguy Ryde or Die Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California-Shanghai Posts: 19,568	damn thats some nice stats from google images traffic

10-19-2004, 04:05 PM	#26
Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	I'm not standing up for xpays or saying that they do convert, I don't use them. I'm just pointing out that you can't expect image traffic to convert like regular search traffic.

10-19-2004, 04:55 PM	#36
XPays Team Player Join Date: May 2004 Location: Inside the most accurately counting and reporting affiliate system in the world at XPays.com Posts: 13,002	interesting excerpt from the parallel thread imho: "quote:Originally posted by MetaformX Interesting thread, to say the least...Bring up some privacy issues... " Post Proof vs. Privacy would be an interesting thread to start imho. I think I walked the tightrope ok this time despite what other may think. Also, XPays respects privacy historically, in the present, and the future. An example that comes to mind immediately is the fact that we guarded our affiliate database successfully in Microsoft vs. XPays. __________________ InterNext Expo Domain Auction Live Now thru Feb 5 HuntingMoon GFY Domains Marketplace is LIVE XPays always pays! Top Site: * RealJasmine.com * + HotelHeiress® with The Paris Hilton Sex Video Insert the HotelHeiress® HD FEED into your members areas XPin.com Opening for Pin Partners Soonish Mainstream Offers For Emailers and DomainersNONADULT.COM Like Us!