The #1 Reason to Vote for Kerry

[scoreman]

Beyond all the bullshit promises about jobs, war, taxes and health care, here is the #1 reason why everyone who works in our industry needs to vote for Kerry:

In the next four years the acting President will be filling up to even three Supreme Court Justice positions. It has been 10 years since the last appointment, an unprecedented time period. Most likely to retire are Stevens, Rehnquist and O'Conner. Bush has made it clear with his Court of Appeals appointees that he plans to nominate conservative candidates.

Look at the history of the COPA and you will see why this is so critical for us. COPA narrowly escaped passage with a 5-4 vote in July. Stevens was on our side of that case. The Department of Justice has indicated that they will bring another version of COPA and it is likely that this issue will be revisited in the next 4 years.

On top of that specific case, in the next four years the Justices will also be looking at alot of issues that revolve around freedom of speech, the limits of police and state powers and church-state relations, all of which have an impact on our industry.

Do not sit idle while your future is being decided, this November election will allow the winner to mold the highest Court in the USA and will have a lasting impact for decades to come.

[Basic_man]

The main reason is to not re-elect bush !

[skyechase]

Agreed!

[tony286]

Originally posted by scoreman
Beyond all the bullshit promises about jobs, war, taxes and health care, here is the #1 reason why everyone who works in our industry needs to vote for Kerry:

In the next four years the acting President will be filling up to even three Supreme Court Justice positions. It has been 10 years since the last appointment, an unprecedented time period. Most likely to retire are Stevens, Rehnquist and O'Conner. Bush has made it clear with his Court of Appeals appointees that he plans to nominate conservative candidates.

Look at the history of the COPA and you will see why this is so critical for us. COPA narrowly escaped passage with a 5-4 vote in July. Stevens was on our side of that case. The Department of Justice has indicated that they will bring another version of COPA and it is likely that this issue will be revisited in the next 4 years.

On top of that specific case, in the next four years the Justices will also be looking at alot of issues that revolve around freedom of speech, the limits of police and state powers and church-state relations, all of which have an impact on our industry.

Do not sit idle while your future is being decided, this November election will allow the winner to mold the highest Court in the USA and will have a lasting impact for decades to come.

Very good point , people dont think about that.

[KRL]

Kerry is going to win. I've sent them money and you should see the ground roots machine they have working. Its blowing away the Republicans.

[polish_aristocrat]

Originally posted by Basic_man
The main reason is to not re-elect bush !

so fucking true

[JakeR]

Originally posted by KRL
Kerry is going to win. I've sent them money and you should see the ground roots machine they have working. Its blowing away the Republicans.

you better form some shells and send more because they'll need it.

bush 04.

[johnbosh]

Originally posted by Basic_man
The main reason is to not re-elect bush !

thats a really strong point

[TheJimmy]

Originally posted by KRL
Kerry is going to win. ...

damm straight he is...


sure it's gonna be close but George needs to start job hunting....

[loverboy]

end misery, vote for Kerry

[Tom_PMs]

Not gonna be close. Gonna be a larger margin than Reagan's win over Carter.

You just watch.

[scoreman]

Anyone who works in adult and votes for Bush should have his head examined. Whoever you are, please come out of the woodwork and tell me why you would support Bush. I really want to know.

[gurubucks]

Originally posted by JakeR
you better form some shells and send more because they'll need it.

bush 04.

The only reason Bush will win has to be because he is cheating.

Not sure who in their right mind would want 'Bushit' for 4 more years??


Open your eyes peeps.. Bush sucks.
Check this url
http://www.uuforum.org/deficit.htm
(Maybe Camchicks can hotlink this sucker for me again ;-)


If you still continue to vote for Bush after seeing that url, you're on crack..and people like you shouldn't vote since it appears it's too much for you to handle.

I'm definitely interested in seeing what Kerry can do for us.
He is very powerful and has history to back it up.

Go Kerry

[sweetcuties]

Kerry all the way. I've always voted democrat

[Indeed]

Originally posted by scoreman
Anyone who works in adult and votes for Bush should have his head examined. Whoever you are, please come out of the woodwork and tell me why you would support Bush. I really want to know.

Unfortunately most people here are rednecks, kids and idiots. Everything you said is true but don't expect people here to change their vote.

[axelcat]

I like kerry

[eisbaer]

Everybody who had seen the developements in the States in the last 4 years from an European view can't understand why anybody (especially in the adult business) even considers voting for Bush. Look at the Dollar Exchange Rate, the biggest deficit a Country ever had build in only 4 years, the WMD bullshit(in every other country this had resulted in an impeachment), and what I was most upset about: to lower the pay of soldiers going to IRAK for the U.S.

If you want to see the last two US Processors vanish, go vote for Bush. (But search yourself another job before :-) )

[scoreman]

I'll debate the issues with rednecks, kids and idiots because they are all entitled to vote. I might not change their minds but I'd sure like a chance to try.

Cmon Bush backers, lets hear the reasons.

[Rochard]

I really expected to see pictures of his daughters in this thread.

This thread is useless without pictures.

[Indeed]

Originally posted by scoreman
I'll debate the issues with rednecks, kids and idiots because they are all entitled to vote. I might not change their minds but I'd sure like a chance to try.

Cmon Bush backers, lets hear the reasons.

Good luck man!

[Peaches]

AGAIN, since the senate confirms the nominees, and 30% of the current senate seats are up for re-election this November, if you're really concerned about who gets in the supreme court over the next 4 years, PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR LOCAL SENATORS AND VOTE FOR/AGAINST THEM 11/2!!

[MaDalton]

i would vote for kerry if i was allowed to...

[TheJimmy]

Originally posted by scoreman
I'll debate the issues with rednecks, kids and idiots because they are all entitled to vote. I might not change their minds but I'd sure like a chance to try.

Cmon Bush backers, lets hear the reasons.

I've been working on a few myself...

[bringer]

i tend to vote republican and i dont see any reason to vote for bush.

[LauraLee]

Great post scoreman. Kerry in 04.

[TheJimmy]

Originally posted by bringer
i tend to vote republican and i dont see any reason to vote for bush.

you're totally not alone on that one...

[Tom_PMs]

The Senate only can confirm or deny someone proposed by the President. Lets start at the top.

Bush pulled out his ancient comment last night when asked about Roe V Wade. He will not use a litmus test when choosing a supreme court nominee.

Do people think that means he'll use a random number generator to choose a nominee? lol

[scoreman]

Originally posted by Peaches
AGAIN, since the senate confirms the nominees, and 30% of the current senate seats are up for re-election this November, if you're really concerned about who gets in the supreme court over the next 4 years, PAY ATTENTION TO YOUR LOCAL SENATORS AND VOTE FOR/AGAINST THEM 11/2!!

AGAIN?

The nomination of Supreme Court justices come from the Executive branch. The Senate is not in a position to confirm what is not offered.

I do not want a situation where the Executive branch gets proactive in deal making with Senators to get Mr Conservative Candidate confirmed. This has always been the case in Washington and you can expect that if Bush wins, he will be cutting deals and doling out the Pork to get his nominations confirmed even if the Senate moves to a much stronger Democrat position.

[gangbangjoe]

Originally posted by Basic_man
The main reason is to not re-elect bush !

amen

[Goose]

I'm afraid I can't vote, but I fully second you!

[gurubucks]

Originally posted by bringer
i tend to vote republican and i dont see any reason to vote for bush.

I don't get your point.


what is your reason to vote Rebublican?

TheJimmy, I'm interested to know your reasons too..

[mardigras]

This thread needs to be pinned

[bringer]

Originally posted by gurubucks
I don't get your point.


what is your reason to vote Rebublican?

TheJimmy, I'm interested to know your reasons too..

because id rather vote for someone whos for training programs rather then entitlements(handouts). this is a hole the deomcrats have dug themselves into in hopes of get the minority vote. they endorse these so called minority leaders who tell their selected group that the world doesnt want them to succeed and they shouldnt even try and just live off the system which is why they are stuck in a never ending loop. democrats basic outline is raise taxes so we can give it to people without money instead of investing it into training programs to get these people jobs. teach a man to fish... blah blah blah...
im also against all these liberal actions like paying for government employees to have sex changes and having a gay,lesbian, and transexual war memorial instead of one that represents all troops. i guess i shouldnt live in california, the breeding ground of liberal morans. a common misconception is that all republicans are bible freaks who dictate their lives on the bible. couldnt be further from the truth in my case. i just dont think its right taking more of my money to give to people who are in this country illegally and supporting their outragious family who have children for the sole purpose of increasing their government checks. doubling college tuition so more "poor" kids can signup and go the required 2 weeks, receieve their check, and quit. im just sick if the bullshit.

[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by scoreman
AGAIN?

The nomination of Supreme Court justices come from the Executive branch. The Senate is not in a position to confirm what is not offered.

I do not want a situation where the Executive branch gets proactive in deal making with Senators to get Mr Conservative Candidate confirmed. This has always been the case in Washington and you can expect that if Bush wins, he will be cutting deals and doling out the Pork to get his nominations confirmed even if the Senate moves to a much stronger Democrat position.

I agree with you on that.
The dems won't be able to block and filibuster a supreme court nominee the way they've done with the appointments to the circuit and appeals courts.
A vacancy on the supreme court will generate way too much negative press if the dems use stalling tactics.

If as projected the republicans keep control of the senate they'll have the votes to ram through another Scalia and Clarence Thomas.
Then there will be hell to pay for our industry, civil liberties in general, and for people's RIGHT TO PRIVACY, which is arguably the most important issue the court will have to deal with in the next decade.

[Hank_Heartland]

Originally posted by KRL
Kerry is going to win. I've sent them money and you should see the ground roots machine they have working. Its blowing away the Republicans.

I sent the Kerry campaign money also and I hope all the other big talkers on this board have put there money where their mouths are as well. This is too important to us for Kerry to loose

[Hank_Heartland]

Originally posted by JakeR
you better form some shells and send more because they'll need it.

bush 04.

You sure you are from Illinois?

[Snake Doctor]

Originally posted by bringer
because id rather vote for someone whos for training programs rather then entitlements(handouts). this is a hole the deomcrats have dug themselves into in hopes of get the minority vote. they endorse these so called minority leaders who tell their selected group that the world doesnt want them to succeed and they shouldnt even try and just live off the system which is why they are stuck in a never ending loop. democrats basic outline is raise taxes so we can give it to people without money instead of investing it into training programs to get these people jobs. teach a man to fish... blah blah blah...
im also against all these liberal actions like paying for government employees to have sex changes and having a gay,lesbian, and transexual war memorial instead of one that represents all troops. i guess i shouldnt live in california, the breeding ground of liberal morans. a common misconception is that all republicans are bible freaks who dictate their lives on the bible. couldnt be further from the truth in my case. i just dont think its right taking more of my money to give to people who are in this country illegally and supporting their outragious family who have children for the sole purpose of increasing their government checks. doubling college tuition so more "poor" kids can signup and go the required 2 weeks, receieve their check, and quit. im just sick if the bullshit.

For the record Bill Clinton campaigned on welfare reform in 1992....signed it into law, and Kerry voted for it.
2 year cap on benefits, job training programs etc etc.

I find it ironic that the same people who want to take away a 16 year old girl's right to have an abortion are the same people that want to throw her and the newborn baby out on the street because she had to drop out of school to take care of the baby and has no job skills.

If you really want to get people off the dole then let's stop all the corporate welfare and agriculture subsidies that your party votes for every year. (We spend ALOT more money on that than we do on AFDC)

[JenC]

I'm a registered Republican who saved a LOT of money on taxes with George W. Bush the last 4 years. With that thought in the back of my mind, I will be voting for Sen. John Kerry in November because there are more important things in life than money.

[bringer]

Originally posted by Lenny2
For the record Bill Clinton campaigned on welfare reform in 1992....signed it into law, and Kerry voted for it.
2 year cap on benefits, job training programs etc etc.

I find it ironic that the same people who want to take away a 16 year old girl's right to have an abortion are the same people that want to throw her and the newborn baby out on the street because she had to drop out of school to take care of the baby and has no job skills.

If you really want to get people off the dole then let's stop all the corporate welfare and agriculture subsidies that your party votes for every year. (We spend ALOT more money on that than we do on AFDC)

this is the stance i hate "I find it ironic that the same people who want to take away a 16 year old girl's right to have an abortion are the same people that want to throw her and the newborn baby out on the street because she had to drop out of school to take care of the baby and has no job skills." wheres the accountability of these people and their parents? none. their parents screw up and they destroy their life and im responsable to pick up the tab?
thats why i said i tend to vote republican. i dont agree with all republicans nor vote R everytime. its true clinton took a great step in the right direction, but he's a rare occurrence and the only one democrats can point to when the welfare issue is brought up. what you dont know is there are loopholes that they refuse to fix. 2 year cap doesnt exist, where they can quit the program for 3weeks and rejoin and have a fresh start. they arent allowed to add new children they have while on the program, but again they can quit for 3 weeks and rejoin and add that child. i dont want to take away abortion rights, which again is why i said i TEND to vote republican. maybe instead of providing them with abortions and letting them use a child as an excuse to fail, we should invest in prevention. these people have no accountability when it comes to things of this nature. this is why i dislike labels, where people think if you vote republican that means your a bible thumper who does everything a book writen by man says and agree with everything people in the party you tend to vote with do. it just isnt the case.

[mardigras]

Originally posted by bringer
... blah blah blah...
im also against all these liberal actions like paying for government employees to have sex changes and having a gay,lesbian, and transexual war memorial instead of one that represents all troops.

Could you please provide a newslink(s) detailing where the government has paid for such or which democrats are supporting measures to do so? I'm usually very proficient at pulling things up from Google but seem to be having a problem with this one.

Originally posted by bringer
i guess i shouldnt live in california, the breeding ground of liberal morans.

Well DUH... if someone had a thing against homosexuals they wouldn't move near Castro Street; if they hated drunks they wouldn't move to the French Quarter...come to the Bible belt, the cost of living's lower and it's good ole boys all around. They don't have a lot of that queer stuff that's obviously bugging you

Originally posted by bringer
a common misconception is that all republicans are bible freaks who dictate their lives on the bible. couldnt be further from the truth in my case.

Must not be far from the truth for enough people since GW made it a big issue last night, an obvious effort to rally the church based campaign movement that is sweeping the country.

Originally posted by bringer
i just dont think its right taking more of my money to give to people who are in this country illegally and supporting their outragious family who have children for the sole purpose of increasing their government checks. doubling college tuition so more "poor" kids can signup and go the required 2 weeks, receieve their check, and quit. im just sick if the bullshit.

Restrict people who defraud any program from eligibility from any other government program (whether it be state/federal or local) for a set period after restitution. Instead of giving students checks, cover their expenses on paper. There needs to be a public higher education system for those financially unable to afford Ivy League schools or even community college. Society benefits as a whole when it's citizens are educated.

[Rich]

Originally posted by Hank_MrSkin
I sent the Kerry campaign money also and I hope all the other big talkers on this board have put there money where their mouths are as well. This is too important to us for Kerry to loose

I donated money and I'm not even American.

[bringer]

Originally posted by mardigras
Could you please provide a newslink(s) detailing where the government has paid for such or which democrats are supporting measures to do so? I'm usually very proficient at pulling things up from Google but seem to be having a problem with this one.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...250EDT0725.DTL

Well DUH... if someone had a thing against homosexuals they wouldn't move near Castro Street; if they hated drunks they wouldn't move to the French Quarter...come to the Bible belt, the cost of living's lower and it's good ole boys all around. They don't have a lot of that queer stuff that's obviously bugging you

good point

Must not be far from the truth for enough people since GW made it a big issue last night, an obvious effort to rally the church based campaign movement that is sweeping the country.

and kerry mentioned it a few times and has been seen lately campaining in churchs with high ranking minority "reverends"

Restrict people who defraud any program from eligibility from any other government program (whether it be state/federal or local) for a set period after restitution. Instead of giving students checks, cover their expenses on paper. There needs to be a public higher education system for those financially unable to afford Ivy League schools or even community college. Society benefits as a whole when it's citizens are educated.

its imposible to regualate this when they're goal is giving out the funding instead of verifying the recipient is legit and if caught there are no inforced punishments. i agree people should have the opportunity to get educated, but at the same time it is illegal to aid anyone who is illegally in this country yet it happens millions of times a year. when i was in college making shit money and living off top romin i couldnt get aid even though i lived on my own because my parents made to much but still couldnt afford to send me to college. if my parents had been on public assistance i would of had people lining up to hand me checks and give me grants. the system is ass backwards and temp fixes wont solve the problem.

[scoreman]

Originally posted by bringer
this is the stance i hate "I find it ironic that the same people who want to take away a 16 year old girl's right to have an abortion are the same people that want to throw her and the newborn baby out on the street because she had to drop out of school to take care of the baby and has no job skills." wheres the accountability of these people and their parents? none. their parents screw up and they destroy their life and im responsable to pick up the tab?
thats why i said i tend to vote republican. i dont agree with all republicans nor vote R everytime. its true clinton took a great step in the right direction, but he's a rare occurrence and the only one democrats can point to when the welfare issue is brought up. what you dont know is there are loopholes that they refuse to fix. 2 year cap doesnt exist, where they can quit the program for 3weeks and rejoin and have a fresh start. they arent allowed to add new children they have while on the program, but again they can quit for 3 weeks and rejoin and add that child. i dont want to take away abortion rights, which again is why i said i TEND to vote republican. maybe instead of providing them with abortions and letting them use a child as an excuse to fail, we should invest in prevention. these people have no accountability when it comes to things of this nature. this is why i dislike labels, where people think if you vote republican that means your a bible thumper who does everything a book writen by man says and agree with everything people in the party you tend to vote with do. it just isnt the case.

Bringer, do you work in the adult industry and are you saying here that you are in fact voting for Bush? What I am getting out of what you wrote is that you are for personal responsibility and you would prefer the gov't be financially conservative with the tax dollars you contribute. Am I off on this?

If you are a financially conservative person, as are many of us, surely you can see that the road towards Bush could have dramatic changes to your finances (assuming that you work in Adult). The things that you talk about, welfare and immigration policy in the end will mean the difference of just a few hundred dollars at most to your personal finances. Compare that to what would happen if our government were to make your actual job illegal.

[bringer]

Originally posted by scoreman
Bringer, do you work in the adult industry and are you saying here that you are in fact voting for Bush? What I am getting out of what you wrote is that you are for personal responsibility and you would prefer the gov't be financially conservative with the tax dollars you contribute. Am I off on this?

If you are a financially conservative person, as are many of us, surely you can see that the road towards Bush could have dramatic changes to your finances (assuming that you work in Adult). The things that you talk about, welfare and immigration policy in the end will mean the difference of just a few hundred dollars at most to your personal finances. Compare that to what would happen if our government were to make your actual job illegal.

Originally posted by bringer
i tend to vote republican and i dont see any reason to vote for bush.

sorry, i figured people would read the entire thread before making comments

[bringer]

Originally posted by bringer
sorry, i figured people would read the entire thread before making comments

sorry to be so harsh, been a bad day

[scoreman]

Ok my bad I missed that.

Glad to hear that

Big Big thumbs up to folks like Rich who are not even living in the USA and sent money to help out.

[Rich]

The funny thing about this board is, you'll find a lot of people who attack Kerry with every right wing talking point, while at the same time defending Bush on every possible occasion, yet they say they're not voting for Bush.

It's a very strange phenomenon, maybe the TV has just fucked with their heads a little too much.

[Jeppe]

Originally posted by scoreman
Beyond all the bullshit promises about jobs, war, taxes and health care, here is the #1 reason why everyone who works in our industry needs to vote for Kerry:

In the next four years the acting President will be filling up to even three Supreme Court Justice positions. It has been 10 years since the last appointment, an unprecedented time period. Most likely to retire are Stevens, Rehnquist and O'Conner. Bush has made it clear with his Court of Appeals appointees that he plans to nominate conservative candidates.

Look at the history of the COPA and you will see why this is so critical for us. COPA narrowly escaped passage with a 5-4 vote in July. Stevens was on our side of that case. The Department of Justice has indicated that they will bring another version of COPA and it is likely that this issue will be revisited in the next 4 years.

On top of that specific case, in the next four years the Justices will also be looking at alot of issues that revolve around freedom of speech, the limits of police and state powers and church-state relations, all of which have an impact on our industry.

Do not sit idle while your future is being decided, this November election will allow the winner to mold the highest Court in the USA and will have a lasting impact for decades to come.

Amen to that

[M_M]

Originally posted by scoreman
Anyone who works in adult and votes for Bush should have his head examined. Whoever you are, please come out of the woodwork and tell me why you would support Bush. I really want to know.

Some idiot webmasters are in favor of COPA.

[Manowar]

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