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Old 10-11-2004, 11:34 PM   #1
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jays-xxx-links.com (looks like someone is refbombing the domain)

... just doing my research on the latest tricks and found out the someone must be respaming jay's site, wonder if this will get him banned in the next update?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...inks.%2Bcom%22
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Old 10-11-2004, 11:39 PM   #2
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Hmmm, interesting. But I doubt whoever is doing this (I seriously doubt its Jay) won't accomplish their goal. His site is so full of relevant links that even 9000+ spammy links should go unaffected. From my experience a banning comes from percentage of spammy links compared to overall links so I doubt whoever is doing this will get Jay banned.

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100% not him doing it, wouldn't makes sense at all, it is someone that knows that excessive refspaming will get any domain blacklisted within month.

... just to add, if you refbomb the wrong site they may also shutdown your site.
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Hmmm, interesting. But I doubt whoever is doing this (I seriously doubt its Jay) won't accomplish their goal. His site is so full of relevant links that even 9000+ spammy links should go unaffected. From my experience a banning comes from percentage of spammy links compared to overall links so I doubt whoever is doing this will get Jay banned.

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9,000? How does 500,000 sound?
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I used this method of PR gaining once and it worked. And the site still has its PR and it still gets hits like mad...

So... If you don't know about how google figures this kinda shit out, don't waist our time.
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I guess it depends on how many links the refspammer has but either way, Jay's stuff has been on Google for a very long time with minimal movements in the SERPs. I still do think Jay will be fine though.

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I used this method of PR gaining once and it worked. And the site still has its PR and it still gets hits like mad...

So... If you don't know about how google figures this kinda shit out, don't waist our time.
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That isn't me doing those backlinks for sure. Honestly, I didn't even know what revspamming is till now.

Wiredguy - do you know any way to stop this?
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Unfortunately no. I have been banned for refspamming before from Google long time ago but I was up in the 50k+ backlinks (you're at around 9k). I wouldn't worry so much though, like I said, I get the impression Google basis their bannings on the percentage of links which are refspam. And for the most part I imagine they check this by checking the anchor text if its matches the url that's being linked. Now compared to the number of legit backlinks you have, even at 50k spammy links I think you'll still be fine. Let me try and look if there's a way to find out the spammers IP though.

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Let me try and look if there's a way to find out the spammers IP though.
I'm not sure if this helps but here's a few of the IP's this guy was spamming from:

Sep 30 - 11:09 am jays-xxx-links.com 168.143.113.138
13:20 refer/ jays-xxx-links.com 168.143.113.138
Oct 5 - 8:24 am refer/index.php jays-xxx-links.com 168.143.113.138
19:39 refer/index.php jays-xxx-links.com 207.67.147.232


Now doing a few searches on the commonly used IP address above: 168.143.113.138

We get a few interesting results...

On the same IP address, and even a lot of the same refspam'd urls we see the same IP is spamming these urls:
a-dvd-porn.blogspot.com
a-disney-porn.blogspot.com
i-free-gay-picture.blogspot.com
i-sex-picture.blogspot.com
i-live-sex.blogspot.com

So, try doing a couple lookups on the above blogs (seems to be the same owner who's spamming those urls) and try to find a sponsor code and contact those sponsors.

For example his link to urentdvds is: http://in.urentdvds.com/cgi-bin/dvdH.cgi/10/133331/C

Contacting CECash might help you with that refcode to get in touch with this webmaster.

Good luck.
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Unfortunately no. I have been banned for refspamming before from Google long time ago but I was up in the 50k+ backlinks (you're at around 9k). I wouldn't worry so much though, like I said, I get the impression Google basis their bannings on the percentage of links which are refspam. And for the most part I imagine they check this by checking the anchor text if its matches the url that's being linked. Now compared to the number of legit backlinks you have, even at 50k spammy links I think you'll still be fine. Let me try and look if there's a way to find out the spammers IP though.

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Yeah man - I just checked my backlinks and none of them are even showing up yet. Most of my backlinks are actually from sites I've listed and are legit.

This still concerns me.
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I'm not sure if this helps but here's a few of the IP's this guy was spamming from:

Sep 30 - 11:09 am jays-xxx-links.com 168.143.113.138
13:20 refer/ jays-xxx-links.com 168.143.113.138
Oct 5 - 8:24 am refer/index.php jays-xxx-links.com 168.143.113.138
19:39 refer/index.php jays-xxx-links.com 207.67.147.232


Now doing a few searches on the commonly used IP address above: 168.143.113.138

We get a few interesting results...

On the same IP address, and even a lot of the same refspam'd urls we see the same IP is spamming these urls:
a-dvd-porn.blogspot.com
a-disney-porn.blogspot.com
i-free-gay-picture.blogspot.com
i-sex-picture.blogspot.com
i-live-sex.blogspot.com

So, try doing a couple lookups on the above blogs (seems to be the same owner who's spamming those urls) and try to find a sponsor code and contact those sponsors.

For example his link to urentdvds is: http://in.urentdvds.com/cgi-bin/dvdH.cgi/10/133331/C

Contacting CECash might help you with that refcode to get in touch with this webmaster.

Good luck.
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Back in the day you could have just pulled up the full info with ssn or tax ID from CE.
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Yeah man - I just checked my backlinks and none of them are even showing up yet. Most of my backlinks are actually from sites I've listed and are legit.

This still concerns me.
The problem with spammed backlinks is that its quick. It will get you noticed in Google quickly and it won't show the backlinks for at least one update. But do a search for just your url (like the link in the first post) and you'll see there's over 8000 instances of your urls. The first 2 pages all seem legit but look at the other ones. Clearly spammed urls.

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I'm not sure if this helps but here's a few of the IP's this guy was spamming from:

Sep 30 - 11:09 am jays-xxx-links.com 168.143.113.138
13:20 refer/ jays-xxx-links.com 168.143.113.138
Oct 5 - 8:24 am refer/index.php jays-xxx-links.com 168.143.113.138
19:39 refer/index.php jays-xxx-links.com 207.67.147.232


Now doing a few searches on the commonly used IP address above: 168.143.113.138

We get a few interesting results...

On the same IP address, and even a lot of the same refspam'd urls we see the same IP is spamming these urls:
a-dvd-porn.blogspot.com
a-disney-porn.blogspot.com
i-free-gay-picture.blogspot.com
i-sex-picture.blogspot.com
i-live-sex.blogspot.com

So, try doing a couple lookups on the above blogs (seems to be the same owner who's spamming those urls) and try to find a sponsor code and contact those sponsors.

For example his link to urentdvds is: http://in.urentdvds.com/cgi-bin/dvdH.cgi/10/133331/C

Contacting CECash might help you with that refcode to get in touch with this webmaster.

Good luck.
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Thanks WG - you are the man. It just so happens that I am very well connected at CE Cash and I will have this joker dealt with real quick.
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I can think of an easier way.

Thats my ref code.

But not sure how its connected to jays-xxx-links.
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Thats my ref code.

But not sure how its connected to jays-xxx-links.
Seems the same IP address is refspamming your blogs and jay's sites in that case. Was it an open proxy you were spamming with?

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Seems the same IP address is refspamming your blogs and jay's sites in that case. Was it an open proxy you were spamming with?

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Lets not use the s word , here please.

And yes its an open proxy still valid. But lets discuss this icq please.
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Lets not use the s word , here please.

And yes its an open proxy still valid. But lets discuss this icq please.
With me, I thought you meant Jay? Hmmm, use my email instead: gfy [at] wired2000 [dot] com.

I'm heading to bed in a few minutes so i might reply in the morning.

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With me, I thought you meant Jay? Hmmm, use my email instead: gfy [at] wired2000 [dot] com.

I'm heading to bed in a few minutes so i might reply in the morning.

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LOL i will talk to you if you need a friend , but no i meant jay lol.

Put it this way , i can lead him in the right direction
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PS: Jay, if this IP address is an open proxy, then what I said above is not necessarily accurate. Anyone could have used that IP to post those urls and they might not be related... just to give you a heads up before contacting CECash

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Put it this way , i can lead him in the right direction
Ok, this makes more sense now
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Hey WG - I don't see you on my ICQ anymore. Can you hit me up at 62835707 please?
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Unfortunately no. I have been banned for refspamming before from Google long time ago but I was up in the 50k+ backlinks (you're at around 9k). I wouldn't worry so much though, like I said, I get the impression Google basis their bannings on the percentage of links which are refspam. And for the most part I imagine they check this by checking the anchor text if its matches the url that's being linked. Now compared to the number of legit backlinks you have, even at 50k spammy links I think you'll still be fine. Let me try and look if there's a way to find out the spammers IP though.

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... no way, let's discuss this here.
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I already think I have this situation handled.

Thanks uchase/webpry for making me aware of this, thanks smokey, and thanks WG.

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How fucking funny, im reading this thread and halfway the first thing that comes to mind is Smokey. Since he pulled shit like this and others before. Spamming blogs using my name. Then WG pulls up some links and i see those blogs. Typical Smokey tactics then i read some more and guess what, its Smokeys ref code. What a coincedence.
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Ofcourse Smokey didnt do shit. He never does anything. He never fucked up this board, he was never banned for fucking up this board yadiyadiya.
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How fucking funny, im reading this thread and halfway the first thing that comes to mind is Smokey. Since he pulled shit like this and others before. Spamming blogs using my name. Then WG pulls up some links and i see those blogs. Typical Smokey tactics then i read some more and guess what, its Smokeys ref code. What a coincedence.
I wouldn't be surprised if that little twat is hiding behind refshare ID 1363 and is resposible for this spyware shit here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...se.%2B com%22

... basicly he tried to fuck jay, but hey, it's smokey ... it's cool !!!
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refbombing works though. Feel sorry for Jay that someone is fucking over his site that he worked hard to build. If you are looking for a quick boost using this method see sig.
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Old 10-12-2004, 06:38 AM   #44
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I could imagine that the owner of xcvv.com is doing something. A half year ago he stole my site layout. I am not sure why he is still listed in google and yahoo. (since over a year) With every update I think hope he is gone, but nothing. He is cloaking his sites and has several subdomains with nearly the same content. All his domains (over 170) are listed on 2 IP's.
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Old 10-12-2004, 06:40 AM   #45
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Old 10-12-2004, 06:50 AM   #46
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wow, this was kinda interesting....but I think its wrong to pull this shit on other webmasters
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wow, this was kinda interesting....but I think its wrong to pull this shit on other webmasters
For sure, especially a site like Jay's which took hundreds of hours to build.

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Old 10-12-2004, 11:16 AM   #48
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Here is who it comes back to - time and time again from my sleepless night of research:

Nathanial Morrow, General Delivery, Gabriola Island, B.C. V0R 1X0 Canada. [email protected]

Smokey admitted that the CECash account is his.

He also has the name Nastydollars ID = snfumail

Here is his IP:
70.66.126.98

Anybody know who this is?
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Old 10-12-2004, 11:26 AM   #49
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Here is who it comes back to - time and time again from my sleepless night of research:

Nathanial Morrow, General Delivery, Gabriola Island, B.C. V0R 1X0 Canada. [email protected]

Smokey admitted that the CECash account is his.

He also has the name Nastydollars ID = snfumail

Here is his IP:
70.66.126.98

Anybody know who this is?
The way you worded that made it sound like you think it was Smokey but then ask who is it. I know what you meant though but others may not.
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Old 10-12-2004, 11:51 AM   #50
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thats pretty low
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