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Old 10-17-2004, 03:53 PM   #1
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Election question

I know electorial college and such, skipping over that.

Since I am in California which is far from a battleground state, we have had virtually no presidential advertising, visits, etc. We are one of the many "already decided" states, or at least that is how it is displayed in the media and such.
I have been following everything very closely though and one thing has particularly struck me that both candidates seem to be ignoring. New voter registration went absolutely batshit, talking record daily numbers. Seeing that voter registration is way up, logic would dictate that this election may have the largest voter turn out percentage in recent history.
Could this not in theory turn literally any state into a potential swing state? Since most of the map predictions and such are centered around previous voter histories, which also are based on very poor voter turn out.
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:55 PM   #2
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too many many people live in Cali. You would need a swing of millions of voters to change the outcome here.
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:55 PM   #3
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Actually, many polls are now based on registered voters instead of likely voters ("did you vote last time?"), and that kinda solves the problem.
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:57 PM   #4
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too many many people live in Cali. You would need a swing of millions of voters to change the outcome here.
Not limiting it to just california, I would reason that if we are seeing record new voter registrations then many other states are too.
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Old 10-17-2004, 03:58 PM   #5
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Actually, many polls are now based on registered voters instead of likely voters ("did you vote last time?"), and that kinda solves the problem.
Yes I know that as well, but most polls just ussually meet the scientific minimum for number of people polled, 500 to 1000 or so.

Has anyone seen any polls that just polled newly registered voters?
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Old 10-17-2004, 04:01 PM   #6
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Yes I know that as well, but most polls just ussually meet the scientific minimum for number of people polled, 500 to 1000 or so.

Has anyone seen any polls that just polled newly registered voters?
The scientific minimum makes it unnecessary to poll just newly registered voters. If newly registered voters made a significant difference, the statistic method used would catch the effects of that.
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Old 10-17-2004, 04:03 PM   #7
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The scientific minimum makes it unnecessary to poll just newly registered voters. If newly registered voters made a significant difference, the statistic method used would catch the effects of that.
It is why I am asking, very unsure how some of all this works.
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It is why I am asking, very unsure how some of all this works.
Well, if the participants of polls are chosen completely randomly, and a large enough amount is chosen, the results are extremely accurate.

Try this link to see how it works in practice:
http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/moe.html
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Well, if the participants of polls are chosen completely randomly, and a large enough amount is chosen, the results are extremely accurate.

Try this link to see how it works in practice:
http://www.americanresearchgroup.com/moe.html
That is pretty nifty. Still hard to entirely wrap my head around it though.
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